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Come On, You Kids!!!

Should be at least interesting to see how they play tonight, and whether it's just a training/reserves runabout or if there is some fire and desire shown.

Who's on the bench? Let's make this the Matchday Mailbag thread; I'm closing off the other BATE related threads that are currently open...
Michael Kenrick, ToffeeWeb Towers Posted 17/12/2009 at 14:46:31

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guy rogers
1 Posted 17/12/2009 at 18:21:07

definately really looking forward to the game tonight on channel 5, we are really relaint on the kids we bring through as we don’t have the same spending power of the other clubs.

I really hope Baxter is played in the middle i find it hard to beleive he is a winger as he doesn’t have the pace but he could be an excellnet play maker in the middle with his control and skill. Also most similar to a riquleme or a aimar, although i appreciate it is very ealry doors, but Moyes please play him in his best position!

This forshaw seems to be getting alot of positive press on the other links so he should be interesting plus it will be good to see agard stretch his legs up front.

Hopefully we will get off to a good start and non concede in the frist 25 minutes which will breed confidence through the team. I am sure some of the kids will really try and impress so hopefully we will get a rooney esque performnace like when he came on against areseanl and scroed that goal from one of the kids tonight!!!!!

roll on the next generation!

Gerry Quinn
2 Posted 17/12/2009 at 18:22:21

I can’t wait to see how the kids get on tonight. Unfortunately, as usual, I am unable to go to the match, and will probably suffer at the hands of the Digital Police here in the office.
I sincerely hope that each one of those boys put in his best effort and gets his reward.
One thing though - has the club done anything regarding free entry to the match for children? I think that would have been a great gesture if they haven’t already done so...

Mike Allison
3 Posted 17/12/2009 at 18:21:20

I’ll be watching, would love to think there’s some real talent coming through. As a slight aside, as he obviously can’t play tonight, John Ruddy is also getting some serious praise up in Scotland. I knew nothing at all about Bidwell and Forshaw until reading the official site. I remember us signing Garbutt and what an ’exciting’ prospect he was meant to be at left back- does this selection mean Bidwell’s considered to be ahead of him? (He’s only 2 months older).

Would like to see Agard and Baxter playing with the freedom to be cheeky and creative tonight as well.

Brian Lawlor
4 Posted 17/12/2009 at 18:42:52

Little festive joke for you all: I bumped into a man crying uncontrollably in in Liverpool City Centre yesterday. All he could go on about was how he hates this time of year, having to dress in a ridiculous red outfit and embarrassing himself infront of thousands of people. I said, "Look Mr Gerrard, you chose to play for Liverpool!"

Brian Lawlor
5 Posted 17/12/2009 at 18:44:50

One more for you: The groundsman at liverpool was asked how he keeps the grass so healthy, simple he replied, we put 90 million quids worth of shit on the pitch every week!

John Burns
6 Posted 17/12/2009 at 19:09:02

Have you seen the bench?
Tim Howard, Luke Garbutt, Hope Akpan, Conor McAleny, Shkodran Mustafi, Nathan Craig and Aristote Nsiala.

Gerry Quinn
7 Posted 17/12/2009 at 19:12:01

What the hell is Tim Howard doing on the bench? Shouldn’t he be in the stands with the rest of the team?

Gerry Quinn
8 Posted 17/12/2009 at 19:12:46

Or is he a qualified baby-sitter?

Brian Lawlor
9 Posted 17/12/2009 at 19:14:28

Gerry - the rest of the team will be Xmas shopping and not sat in the stands!

Andy Morden
10 Posted 17/12/2009 at 19:26:29

Actually Phil Neville will be patrolling the sidelines gurning and gesticulating ’support and encouragement’ like a demented gibbon, good captain that he is...

Julian Wait
11 Posted 17/12/2009 at 19:49:55

From the BBC live text:

goodisondub on 606 "I’m concerned the Everton game won’t be over before the team’s bed time. Surely they should have kicked off at six?"

Hear, hear, goodisondub. A 2005 GMT kick-off time is not ideal on a school night.

Brett Jonathan
12 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:01:49

Good link for game here for those who need one...

http://www.tvoo.net/ch1.html

Rich Williams
13 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:12:48

great link thx

oh no not rodwell....

Gerry Quinn
14 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:17:17

Keep talking boys - I’m blind here

Rich Williams
15 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:18:00

rodwell off injured, looks like a thigh strain. Akpan on, fairly steady stuff right now

Gerry Quinn
16 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:17:46

Is the ground half-full or half-empty?

Rich Williams
17 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:20:01

half empty

Rich Williams
18 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:22:05

don’t know if it is my feed but I am having trouble telling baxter from Osman...bit of a worry

Will Leaf
19 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:24:38

I couldn’t log on quick enough to register my surprise at Rodwell being on the pitcch

Will Leaf
20 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:26:24

5 debuts now that Akpan is on

Trevor Williams
21 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:29:00

Surely if the ground is half empty then by definition it is half full too.

Most of the first team ( and the dutch guy) are in the stands

Will Leaf
22 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:27:43

Poor defending from a corner...lot of ball watching from Everton

Gerry Quinn
23 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:30:27

Trevor - are you a professor or a teacher?

Will Leaf
24 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:29:52

Crowd noise sounds like a reserve match as well, Trevor

Will Leaf
25 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:31:42

Definitely half empty, but I’m cynical at least half the time

Will Leaf
26 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:33:38

Nash with a good punch out from a cross...looked strong

Peter Killey
27 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:32:27

The yak is one lazy f--k. Is he ever going to get match fit? don’t get me wrong, when fit and healthy he is a machine, but right now........... May be Jo..lol

Gerry Quinn
28 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:34:52

Has Hibbo had a sniff of goal yet?

Will Leaf
29 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:34:46

Nash well held from a strong shot just outside the box...their forwards ready for any rebounds

Rich Williams
30 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:33:28

Duffy looks decent on the ball, nice build and a threat from set pieces, prospect

Will Leaf
31 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:36:16

Hibbo is going to be busy, but not up their end. We are rarely out of our half

Will Leaf
32 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:37:38

Osman with a nice break...pass to Agard...shoots just over from outside pen area

Will Leaf
33 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:39:13

Spell of better possession

Will Leaf
34 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:46:17

Nash has written a book on backpacking apparently...apropos as Everton is his tenth club

Will Leaf
35 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:49:27

Yak barely jogging about, would have gotten more exercise walking to the cinema

Peter Killey
36 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:50:31

Well it has been slow going, Lets hope we take a chance in second half and push on

Brett Bradshaw
37 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:50:51

Coleman looks a different class to rest of em inc the first teamers! Great defending and getting forward at every oppurtunity providing good crosses

Peter Killey
38 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:52:18

Get the yak off i say, if he is not willing to run, let him sit.... back on the bench

guy rogers
39 Posted 17/12/2009 at 20:55:11

good first half there for the kids.
I thought baxter was the pick playing centrally he looked the most creative and comfortable on the ball, we should try and get the ball to him more. Agard looks quick, with a little more composure he could have done better with a shot. Forshaw looks like he has potenial a couple of good crosses. Duffy composed at the back and colman looks classs. Worried Bidwell might be the new hibbert at left back but he is only 16 so i’ll give him a chance yet :-) Reminds me a bit of Julian Dicks the west ham player not my mate Julian’s dick that is.

Andy White
40 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:03:02

The Yak is seriously p!ssing me off. I can run more than that!

Looking short of ideas when we have the ball in their half...

Will Leaf
41 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:05:33

Bidwell has been physically strong at LB, no major errors, stays his ground...Hibbo has been supporting him well. Not bad for 16

Andy Morden
42 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:07:15

Yak is showing the control of a rapist tonight. Akpan is showing the touch of a Yakubu. My interpretation of Osman’s game so far = he’s short of match fitness. A Marshian interpretation = he’s a crock of shit. Leave it at that.

Duffy and Coleman look solid. Pleased by Duffy, saw him against Rochdale in pre-season and seriously thought he wasn’t up to it. Same game Jo looked great. Just goes to show...

Will Leaf
43 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:08:31

No changes I think...Yak still out there for mysterious reasons

Will Leaf
44 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:12:12

Yak with a good flick on...ball somehow found its way right to his feet

Joey Brown
45 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:13:48

Anyone got a feed? I came in late

Will Leaf
46 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:14:37

Duffy on a yellow ...rash challenge

Will Leaf
47 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:20:28

Jo warming up it appears...some Brazilian flair should be just the ticket

Will Leaf
48 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:21:10

Scratch that...he’s not even on the sheet, is he?

Will Leaf
49 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:24:46

Duffy off the line after Nash came out very weakly against an oncoming BATE attacker

Will Leaf
50 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:27:49

Baxter looking very assured...some excellent strong tackles and good distribution...lively

Ste Blundell
51 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:31:48

Just got in from bleedin Chrimbo shopping on Oxford Street, any links boys? That one keeps stopping. How have the youngsters been?

Rory Slingo
52 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:33:11

here you go, Joey
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/thu17.12/Everton_BATE.html

Terry Riley
53 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:32:46

not impressed with BATE

Joey Brown
54 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:34:25

Thanks Rory.

Will Leaf
55 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:34:33

Champions League qualifications for them next year!

Brett Bradshaw
56 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:30:07

Every set piece we have to defend, they knock it low to the near post and have a shot. Every corner and free kick so far.. are we just waiting to concede or what?

Terry Riley
57 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:36:21

Nastrovia!

Will Leaf
58 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:35:37

Baxter and Coleman linking well...standout players this half...with Hibbo

Kunal Desai
59 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:33:31

Nice to see that we’ll save future transfer fees (large ones) on a future right back and centre back in Duffy and Coleman. Both have been excellent tonight. Can see Duffy being the next Jags!

Andy Morden
60 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:37:09

Carlo Gash

Will Leaf
61 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:37:44

0-1 poss deflection off Duffy...shot from miles out

James Stewart
62 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:37:26

1-0 to Bate.... but

Coleman is the best player on the pitch by a country mile! This boy has genuine class.

Terry Riley
63 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:37:43

C’mon das kraut!

Joey Brown
64 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:38:55

Ha just in time to see us lose. Luckily it could matter less.

Rory Slingo
65 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:39:41

mustafi on for hibbert

Andy Morden
66 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:40:04

Oh dear, we appear to be falling to bits at he back now the goal has gone in.

Liking Agards pace, nice to see a striker worry a defence on the turn. Such a rarity in our team!

Will Leaf
67 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:42:00

Nathan Craig ready to come on...a litany of debuts

Ciarán McGlone
68 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:43:17

Duffy looks a very composed player with good distribution..COleman some decent defending to add to his clear offensive potential...i liked the apkan in the middle too

not much else to be said...

James Stewart
69 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:43:09

Agree with Andy on Agard. Looks lively. Yakubu on the other hand has been an absolute waste of space.

Andy Morden
70 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:42:52

Noticeably Duffy looks less assured without Hibbert guiding him. That may be the weakness in his game, the need for leadership. Still, he’s young and hopefully that can be improved upon

Will Leaf
71 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:44:50

Yak is now captain!!!

James Stewart
72 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:48:30

Nice move Agard should have scored.

Andy Morden
73 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:47:23

Yak couldn’t keep up with Agard in that break. Ah man, I was really hopeful he’d recover from that injury, but the more I see of him as time goes on the less hopeful I become. Come on Yak, prove me wrong!

Terry Riley
74 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:47:56

unlucky!!

James Stewart
75 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:50:18

Yakubu is very worrying. This comes from one of his biggest fans too. Looks nothing like his former self and quite frankly he is a liability.

Terry Riley
76 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:50:44

Domination?

Andy Morden
77 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:52:08

Totally agree James. He was never the most ’energetic’ of players, but he had surprising balance, poise and a burst of pace to turn a man or get on the end of a chance. Doesn’t look to have it anymore. I’m keeping my fingers crossed as I don’t want to write him off to early.

I have to wonder about our medics though. I distinctly remember that Yak had been complaining of a sore heel not long before his achilies gave out. Then we have the more recent incidents with Yobo and Distin’s hamstring problems. Seemingly we push players and end up paying the price in the mid-long term.

Terry Riley
78 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:56:04

I’m seriously impressed with BATE

James Stewart
79 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:55:47

Shocking commentary! I suppose it is channel 5 though.

Will Leaf
80 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:56:29

Injury time and BATE going down like it’s Stalingrad

Terry Riley
81 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:56:53

Well solong from snowbound Holland, goodnight en weltrusten

guy rogers
82 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:58:35

coleman we already know is class, quick and adventurous. Duffy did well up until the goal.

But i really liked baxter this guy has to play instead of ossie now. Also foreshaw looked skillful and nice touch too.

Akpan seem to have a shocking touch and his passing was woeful, he seems to be only in there for his size.

Alot learnt and great experience

Will Leaf
83 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:58:28

Coleman, Duffy, and Baxter with a very encouraging showing. Agard with some good flashes. Wish he had just a little better burst of speed as he’s a small fellow and gets bounced off the ball quite easily.

Good showing from the young’uns

James Stewart
84 Posted 17/12/2009 at 21:57:11

Exactly Andy he seems to have lost those abilities completely. Totally toothless at present and as i said earlier he was a liability in a team of youth and reserve players. Very worrying. Lets just hope he recaptures a little of his former self.

On the plus side I really enjoy watching Coleman play. So offensive and direct I would be tempted to play him as a winger!

Paul Maguire
85 Posted 17/12/2009 at 22:04:32

Coleman reminds me of a combination of Gary Stevens and Trevor Steven.

Will Leaf
86 Posted 17/12/2009 at 22:03:02

Ditto about Yak. If we lose Saha we will again be desperate up front next season.

Guy Rogers
87 Posted 17/12/2009 at 22:06:17

Do you notice the crowd getting right behind Coleman when he pins his ears back and goes on one of those runs, he's awesome :-)

Play Baxter though... have faith.

James Stewart
88 Posted 17/12/2009 at 22:10:33

Guy hit the nail on the head there. He is the kind of player that gets the crowd going and the kind you pay to see. Fast and direct with so far great crossing ability too. I would seriously consider starting him Right wing next match if Moyes has reservations about putting him at Rb in the EPL.

guy rogers
89 Posted 17/12/2009 at 22:09:41

yak is a goal scorer, leave him up front like linekar and he will get loads of goals. Unfortuntaley moyes has him running outwide and linking play etc Let the quick Agard or saha do that and let yak do what he does best at the top of the field

Ciarán McGlone
90 Posted 17/12/2009 at 22:19:52

Guy,

Spot on about the yak..

He was never a footballer - or had poise..

He always was and always will be a one/two touch striker..

For some reasn he seems to think he can play football since he came back...especially from out wide..

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