A big game against Spurs with Pienaar back but Arteta and Osman were added to the burgeoning injury list. Everton kicked off but the tempo was slow from both sides. The first action of note came when Coleman was judged to have fouled Assou-Ekotto but Everton defended it and Yakubu won a free-kick in midfield, Palacios getting booked; however, Hietinga's freekick flew straight to Gomes. Cahill hit a hard shot on target from distance but Gomes had it covereed.
Neville tripped Bale with a poor tackle but the free-kick was defended well. By 15 mins, Spurs had settled into pumping high balls that Everton headed away until Modric took a shot that forced the first save out of Howard. It was Everton's turn to press and The Yak won an excellent free-kick that Baines curled brilliantly just inside the post to give the Blues a fantastic lead on 18 mins, with Gomes rooted.
But a terrible piece of goalkeeping saw Howard's cleansheet soiled when he flapped hopelessly at a cross that Crouch bundled back across goal and Van der Vart smashed in from all of 6 inches. Shockingly poor surrender of a brilliant lead. Everton took the blow and carried on but Modric was given enough space to shoot just wide as Spurs started to play more. Everton still put some good moves together, Bily and Yak trying to combine better.
Coleman and Neville were keeping Bale reasonably quiet but Coleman was worryingly giving away a couple of silly fouls. Back came the lofted balls for Crouch with Neville and Jags effectively double-teaming him, while the home crowd bayed for penalties. At the other end, Modric dragged down Coleman, setting up an identical free-kick chance for Baines but this time he went for the other side and fired it well over.
Everton won another promising free-kick wide right but it came to nothing. Jagielka was alert with a fantastic piece of defending to disposess Van der Vart, who then dived in vain for a free-kick and should have been booked for simulation. Some good work involving Pienaar on the right setting it up for Neville to cross but it was a complete waste. A better move saw a better cross but Cahill and Bily went for the same ball. A good Spurs move finally set up Crouch for a free headeer but he sent it thankfully straight at Howard. 1-1 at half-time but it really should have been 0-1 to Everton.
Palacios was removed at half-time to avoid a second yellow card, Sandro on instead for Spurs, who had a rare ground attack that Crouch screwed wide. Cahill got forward well and won a corner off a Distin ball but Gomes got to Baines's excellent corner. Lennon then collapsed patheically when Coleman barely touched him: unjust yellow card for the Irishman. Everton had to resist some strong pressure and a header going wide from Kaboul. Distin then compltely misjudged a header but Howard was there to cover.
Another Baines corner was not close enough to Cahill as Everton got in a couple of good attacks, with Beckford and Saha warming up. A clever free-kick fired in low by Heitinga won a corner that was defended away as Spurs looked visibly tired on the hour mark. Would the Blues take advantage? Lots of instructions for Saha from Moyes before he finally came on in place of Yakubu, who had started hobbling. Everton had played well enough to ths point, notably without threatening the Spurs goal from open play.
Pienaar went on a good diagonal run but zero end product ? a poor ball too far ahead of Coleman. Everton had a clear opportunity to really push The Spurs but were disappointingly spurning it. Pavlukvechenko came on in place of Lennon, with Bale switching sides and getting Crouch a chance that he drove at Howard. Cahill had a pop from distance that flew wide. Van der Vaart went in the book after he reacted badly to being denied a corner off Cahill.
Bily won a corner with 15 mins left but Bale headed it away with ease and poor play by Heitinga allowed Spurs to break, winning a corner. Saha got on a run that Sandro stopped illegally: yellow card as Hibbert replaced Heitinga. Neither team was really convincing at this stage, and the game could go either way, the concern being that Moyes had settled for a draw. Cahill started to limp as Beckford stripped off but he eventually replaced Coleman with 7 mins to go.
Beckford's first contribution was a foul. As the minutes ticked away, it was Spurs who applied the most pressure, Everton as ever maddeningly wasteful with the possession they had. Bily set up Saha but he was too slow and the shot was blocked. Hibbo went for the big one but his shot was horribly wide. Beckford then pathetically gifted the ball to Bale in midfield allowing Spurs one final attack and it ended 1-1.
A good result on paper, and for a decimated Everton squad, but ? let there be no doubt: this was two points squandered.
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1 Posted 23/10/2010 at 14:58:33
That was a great result TBH but we should have won, only for the howler by TH!
2 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:05:35
It is time that this clown was shown the exit door. I am sick to fucking death of watching this version of "Careless Hands" (remember Gary Sprake @Goodison) move ever closer to Richard Wright territory with each passing week- ergo: sliding towards being the worst keeper in modern EFC history.
Don't make me start listing this guy's calamities here: because I DO have a list.
3 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:06:55
4 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:14:04
5 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:13:38
6 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:12:03
9 bloody years... It's all summed up by giving Hibbert and Osman new contracts. No side with realistic ambition would have done that. Stiil I can celebrate one FA Cup Final since 1995 ? fuckin hell.
7 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:13:03
As for the criticism of Howard, Sean Condon, well who can argue with the howler today but see the picture ffs! Let's see the list then. By the way, Reina and van der Saar are shit too because they've dropped clangers this season. Add every goalie to that list too by the way.
8 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:18:21
May have been a different story if we had signed him the first time around.
9 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:22:42
Careless Hands was Sprake but it was at Anfield when he threw the ball into his own net.
10 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:15:28
Yes, he should have stayed on his line for that cross but it was poor communication all round that led to Howard's blunder.
But it was a point that most of us would have taken before the kick off.
Now wouldn't it be nice to get on wiv me neigh... er, sorry, I mean wouldn't it be nice for West Ham to get a point.
Then have a nice cup of tea and look at the table. At least for a while.
11 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:25:26
12 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:31:37
13 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:30:53
14 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:31:56
Still, come the end of the season, points lost against teams like this will count double mark my words.
15 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:28:17
As far as I'm concerned it was a very credible point against a very good Spurs side, especially in fact of our depleted team.
16 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:33:35
Coleman looked out of his depth but I thought that Jagielka and Distin were superb.
17 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:36:59
The same problem as usual with a lot of sideways passing with nobody capable of unlocking opposition defences. How many times did we get in behind them? The answer: zero. Stoke will be a different game completely but all-in-all I believe it was a good result.
18 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:33:25
If you're talking lists, just off the top of my head, frmo this season alone:
Van Der Sar against West Brom last week.
Joe Hart against Blackburn.
Scott Carson just got credited with an own goal 20 mins ago.
Pepe Reina first game of the season against Arsenal.
Rob Green in almost every single match.
Fabianski/Almunia generally. Heurelho Gomes, okay ont from this season but remember our goal at Spurs away last season? Clanger.
That's off the top of my head. Any my point is that all goalkeepers make mistakes. You have to look at their performance as a whole. Howard's general play is very good, and generally he gives the defence confidence.
19 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:43:53
Not a great game, good point though it is!
20 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:46:30
21 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:51:49
Did you check out their bench compared to ours? At the end of the season we may just qualify for Europe by one point. Mark my words.
22 Posted 23/10/2010 at 15:57:59
Tottenham are one of the better teams in the league regardless of whether they played midweek (as are we).
They were at home; always a difficult place to go.
We were depleted and the midfield in particular was makeshift - Pienaar didn't look 100% and Heitingar is either not interested or injured. Either way, he's a yard off both in sharpness and decision making.
Solid in defence, especially the centre backs.
23 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:02:31
We beat Birmingham, who by last season were the 9th best team (and this was away) so (completely hypothetically!) if we were continuing this 'disappointing' kind of result over a season we would beat the bottom 10 teams away, draw with the teams 4th to 8th away and lose to the top 3, beating everyone at home because we have beat the top 2 at home this year, that would give us 93 points. Is that form good enough for you?
24 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:16:35
Negatives, not enough attacking wide play; reason: Spurs have two great wingers so we had to defend more often in those areas. Heitinga, still a concern; Neville seems better there when Hibbert comes on. Howard's mistake came from being too aware of Crouch and not concentrating on catching the bloody ball. Two good saves in the game and quite solid afterwards.
Overall good team performance, Arteta would have loved this game, with the space in the centre. A point earned and gained against a very good side. No complaints from me, more progress and the spirit was for there in spades today.
NB: Thought the ref was very good, ignoring an outrageous biased crowd everytime a Spurs player hit the deck. Fair to both sides. Well done, Everton.
25 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:30:59
The problem with Tim Howard is that, unlike every other goalie we've ever had over our 130-year history, he is a human being, and sometimes people, y'know, make mistakes.
Get a grip, and stop embarrassing yourselves.
26 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:27:54
Yak worked hard but had no support (heard that before about Bent, Johnson, Saha etc). Jags and Howard seemed to have communication problems all day. Nev, Hibb, Dist were solid.
Bily? Just imagine how slow he will be when he is 30. I saw a few times when Pienaar passed it for Bily to run onto and he just trotted along and it was picked up by Spurs.
I read today in The Sun that Moyes said Heitinga is unhappy about not playing enough but Moyes told him he has been playing badly. Could not agree more. Sadly for him it seems that Bayern Munich are more likely to bid for Baines, Pienaar or me than him.
Also I thought it was funny today when Ian Darke announced that Russell Osman (sic) would not be playing. Didn't he retire 20 years ago after being in "Escape to Victory."
27 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:20:14
The boys are so much more adept at retaining possession away from home these days and this helps our quest for points no end.
I thought Jagielka was awesome today (bar his attempt at skinning Crouch) however Distin worries me a little. Despite a few great blocks he missed 3 crosses in the second half all of which could have cost dear. Still not sure of Hetinga as a holding midfielder as he seems to throw in 2 or 3 very lose passes per game which usually lead to a break away.
However, rather than bitching about and picking over what was done wrong, bottom line is that there has been an improvement in form and another away point in the bag.
28 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:27:53
As for Howard's clanger! ? fuck it, we all make misrakes.
29 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:40:37
30 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:46:43
Howard certainly flaps at some crosses and does fail to command the six yard box too often, but he's had at least one MoTM performance this season. We've had 3 clean sheets the past 4 and have only conceded 8 in 9 matches (only bested by Chelski Shitteh and (what?) Sunderland).
So can't lay too mucha blame on the goalkeeping.
31 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:43:32
I'm losing faith in Bily. I think he could benefit from better coaching and possibly a compatriot at the club. The talent is there and of course he still isn't being played in his most effective position.
No real stand out performances today but a solid team display.
32 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:15:28
33 Posted 23/10/2010 at 16:54:31
34 Posted 23/10/2010 at 17:09:39
First, that definitely wasn't two points lost - their fatigue (if any) after midweek is, arguably, offset by the fact that half of our first team is injured. That, I think, was a good point to get, considering that Spurs are having their best season for years and we don't have a good record at White Hart Lane.
Second, Howard did cock up for their goal but, as was correctly pointed out by someone responding to Michael, keepers do make the odd cock up and, in the nature of their jobs, they often lead to goals. But for the rest of the game he did well, including with crosses. But for me the real villian of the piece for their goal was whoever was supposed to be looking after Hutton, who could have had a cup of tea before crossing the ball in, he had so much time. Compare that with how Spurs were closing us down on the flanks ? Lennon in the first half particularly. Was this Bily's job and, if so, where the hell was he? (Not only for that goal, but time and again).
As for Bily, I thought that he did next to nothing. Anything he did in this game could have been done by a youth team player. People give Osman a hard time and I certainly don't think Ossie is brilliant but he is a decent, honest fringe player and I think he would have done a lot more today (including closing down Hutton) than Bily did.
Heitinga looking disinterested. I thnk Heitinga is in a bit of a difficult position at the moment, because he patently isn't a midfielder. So part of the problem is that he's out of position. If he is disinterested, then spare a thought for what he must be thinking. You've just come out of playing centre-back for the World Cup finalists and you can't get into a club team before a journeyman (Distin), who was relatively solid today but nearly got caught out with a nightmare non-header today. What must you be thinking?
And, finally, that brings me (the observations about Bily and Heitinga are both relevant here) to some observations about Moyes's signings. Cahill will always be used as an example of an excellent signing by Moyes and that can't be countered. But many of his other signings, in my opinion, are not evidence of much thought and some (Fellaini and Bily spring to mind) are panic buys. Jags is great (man of the match today, I think) but he was bought as a utility player who could play midfield and at the back ? not a specialist centre-back. Fellaini ? not sure that Moyes knows yet how to play him most effectively. Bily ? who knows?
Anyway, we have the squad that we have and I think that we are on the way up. Today was solid and professional, on the whole, and a good point. Who wouldn't have taken four points from the last two games if offered them three weeks ago?
35 Posted 23/10/2010 at 17:20:18
36 Posted 23/10/2010 at 17:26:56
37 Posted 23/10/2010 at 17:28:45
The Yak looked even sharper today and although a disjointed midfield through injuries we coped really well against a very attacking team and one of the best squads.
The organisation and structure of the defence was good today ? a really good rythm to the back four now. Bodes well for the rest of the season.
Keeping the confidence build of recent weeks was crucial today and a win against Stoke will put ius in a good posiiton with Arteta, Saha and Rodwell back in the fold properly by then.
Come on you blues!!!
38 Posted 23/10/2010 at 17:31:22
Could we get better? considering we have no money the answer is no. From what I have seen at the WC and in his couple of appearances, Mucha does not fill me with confidence. So on balance I'd rather praise Howard for his mostly good performances for us rather than ocasional clanger.
39 Posted 23/10/2010 at 17:21:58
You score the first goal, you should win: that's the rule in the modern-day game. You give away a ridiculous goal almost straight away after scoring a brilliant free-kick, through a dreadful piece of goalkeeping... that's maddening. No, it's pathetic. Moyes talked big about bringing in Mucha to put some pressure on Howard... well, two horrendous errors so far this season that have cost us three points. Good pressure! I'm sure not quite what Moyes intended...
But what I really cannot get my head around is this mentality: Who wouldn't have taken four points from the last two games if offered them three weeks ago? ? That's such a bizarre and meaninglessly unreal concept in football I have never been able to get my head around. There is no mechanism by which we could be offered or have taken four points from two games three weeks ago!!! It's a patently ridiculous fantasy.
Football is about playing the games, on the field, on the day. It's not about formbooks and predictions. I watch how the games proceed and make my judgements based on what I see. I saw us beat Liverpool well: 3 points throughly deserved. I saw us squander 2 points against Spurs by firstly a stupid goalkeeping error and then a failure of the team to really take the game to a lacklustre home side who were very definitely there for the taking, as Moyes typically settled for the draw. That's not good enough in my book.
40 Posted 23/10/2010 at 18:06:00
I make judgements based on what I see and today's game was a great point away to a very good team with, barring Pienaar, our second choice midfield.
41 Posted 23/10/2010 at 18:12:52
And incidentally, you mention that Howard has made two errors so far this season. But Michael: how was the first error relevant to THIS game??? Is it perhaps relevant because it helps you score points in your crazy, neverending fight against David Moyes?
And anyway, do you honestly think Howard wouldn't have made that mistake if Moyes had dropped him after the Blackburn game? He'd have known Mucha was breathing down his neck so rather than missing his punch, he would have thought to himself "I'd better connect with this or I might get dropped"? Or do you think it's more likely it was just a good goalkeeper making a rare mistake?
Lastly, the general consensus in the comments here is that it was a good point won, against a good side, particularly as we were without several key midfielders. But your headline reads "Two Points Squandered". Predictable, typical, and boring.
42 Posted 23/10/2010 at 18:04:37
Can anybody in their right mind offer a convincing case for this man being worthy of a first team place at Everton? No pace; no physical presence; little sign of energetic commitment or involvement ? he is a complete liability. An occasional insightful pass; an occasional shot out of the blue is hardly a return on an investment of some £9 million pounds. The money paid for him is hardly his fault... but what is his fault are the number of insipid performances; the inability to impose a presence on the field with the intention of affecting any sort of outcome.
I am incredulous at how poor he is ? perhaps a genius on the 5-a-side pitch but a complete and utter liability on the bigger stage ? hurry back, Leon!!!
43 Posted 23/10/2010 at 18:37:42
The worrying thought for me is that, depending in Howard's personality, it's possible the pressure is affecting him in a negative sense, making him more nervous and less confident. I don't necessarily believe that, I just raise it as a possibility ? as an outcome from this game, backed up by a previous howler already this season. If Howard had not made the error in this game, I think it's unlikely we would discussing the issue.
44 Posted 23/10/2010 at 18:55:48
Tim Howard is a very good goalkeeper who is also a credit to the side and who has given us great stability. He has his faults and he made a bad mistake today but for me his positive points far outweigh his mistakes. Come on guys, be positive and give some credit even to Osman and Hibbert who are both a credit to the club warts and all.
I'm sorry that Moyes has fallen out with Heitinga because he is a very good player, We'll probably lose him when he is potentially our best partner for Jags at CB. I'll be sorry to see Pienaar go but it won't weaken us. He is good but not that good and Moyes knows that. God forbid that we'd sell Baines but I hope that we unload Bilyaletdinov, he is a total waste of space and possibly the worst buy Everton have ever made.
I think today was a big step forward for the team even though it may have seemed like 2 points lost.
45 Posted 23/10/2010 at 19:17:10
46 Posted 23/10/2010 at 19:31:28
Neville is a poor man's Tony Hibbert. He constantly gives away free kicks in dangerous areas and players never want to pass it to him because he's shite. He can't cross and rarely plays the ball to feet.
John Heitinga is nowhere near his best and is not a midfielder. Although I don't believe there is anybody else to play the DM role with Mo and Rodders injured.
Pienaar and Baines ALWAYS need to play on the left. The amount them two create alone should ensure this.
Bily is not and never will be a Premier League footballer. He is Moyes's biggest mistake in the transfer market and should be shipped out post haste in January. He will never ever be a player for us.
On the positive side, the Jag is getting back to his best and, surprisingly, him and Distin look very solid and unlikely to concede. The Yak is only waiting for a chance, and Tim Cahill is bang on form. Overall a decent performance and nowhere near as bad as the article suggests.
47 Posted 23/10/2010 at 20:27:16
I thought that we looked evenly matched and it could have gone either way, the BBC website called Spurs' football vibrant, and they totally bossed the game.... Mmmmm, they must've been watching a different game than me ? and all this with our first-choice midfield out injured.
It is all the more frustrating that we couldn't have added to the squad close season; just a bit more quality in key areas... who knows?
48 Posted 23/10/2010 at 20:57:20
And all I read is people thrashing Howard, Pienaar, Bily, Beckford, Heitenga, Coleman, etc.
Overall I thought that was a really strong away performance by a depleted team against a very strong rival for a Champions League berth.
It is legitimate to rue Howard's mistake (as Michael and others do). But to turn that performance and result into the excuse for a whingefest, I find that a little rich.
Well done the Toffees. COYB.
49 Posted 23/10/2010 at 21:28:49
50 Posted 23/10/2010 at 21:24:20
Bily and Pienaar were not match fit
51 Posted 23/10/2010 at 21:40:36
52 Posted 23/10/2010 at 21:24:37
I think not !!!!
For my money Heitinger was bloody awful and his mistake in the 2nd half almost gifted Spurs a goal...the much maligned Distin blocked a goal bound shot and shortly after JH was subbed...He gives away too many fouls and his distribution has deteriorated badly....I reckon Bily was given a full game to try to raise his confidence level as Ozzie is out for quite a while and he may be needed more regularly....I wish we had a Modric who is a superb passer and would make a lot of chances for Saha or the Yak....
53 Posted 23/10/2010 at 21:38:06
The last sentence of your first paragraph as well as your third paragraph explain perfectly why people have posted as they have. Losing two points against a team who may well be competing with us for Europa or even CL status is disappointing. And when this happens, I for one won?t be singing, ?always look on the bright side of life.?
54 Posted 23/10/2010 at 21:34:24
The negativity and vitriol directed to certain players after a creditable performance and a well-earned point are just mind-boggling.
Four games unbeaten now - three of them away - including a derby mauling of Liverpool. Only one goal conceded in the process, yet to read some of the comments on here, you'd think we'd lost the lot.
The pessimism and criticism peppered throughout this thread are unbelievable.
Personaly I am very satisfied with four points from the last two games. I'd have liked six, but bearing in mind the circumstances under which they were gathered, how can some Evertonians be so angry?
We're off the mark, four unbeaten, into the top half and playing with growing confidence.
Yet according to some, half the team shouldn't be on the field.
We're all doomed Captain Mainwaring...
55 Posted 23/10/2010 at 22:01:06
For a supposedly hard man he just wanders about in midfield looking like he doesn?t give a fuck.
I appreciate he is a centre back but come on look interested at least.
56 Posted 23/10/2010 at 21:21:44
Thought I'd logged in to a funeral site.
Today was a good point and could have been more with a bit of luck not forgetting the absentees and players playing with injuries today.
Well done Blues.
57 Posted 23/10/2010 at 22:21:19
Grinding out a draw at WHL is not too bad.
We did well considering the injuries, even carrying Bily and Irish getting used to the PL. And away from home.
3 weeks ago I would be seriously happy to be in this position but we can do better and we will when the first team gets together.
Not so dloom and goon.
58 Posted 23/10/2010 at 22:14:58
Thtat's a fair call, but we have to realise our starting eleven, match fitness for Pienaar, it was I feel a good result.
It's weird that we've played better than the last two games and got nothing. This reflects a return to basics of getting stuck in and be hard to beat. Result, 4 points.
Got to say, I try and respect all comments, but Fellaini a panic buy, god we miss him, enough said. You feel the team of the last half of the season is back and to lose means, as Moyes said before last season's win over Utd, "they'll have to step over our bodies to get 3 points off us today".
59 Posted 23/10/2010 at 22:42:55
It wasn't Howard's clanger, it was our inability to create any chances in the 2nd half despite the majority of possession. The reason for that is Arteta and Fellaini weren't fit and Pienaar was only half fit. Spurs have spent far more than Everton and have better players than us. As pissed off as I am about Howard's mistake, I'm philosophical.
60 Posted 23/10/2010 at 22:21:26
61 Posted 23/10/2010 at 23:26:56
62 Posted 24/10/2010 at 02:03:52
Have to say though that I would rather see Neville in CM and Hibbert at RB than Heitinga who for me is ineffective and brings nothing to the team in midfield.
63 Posted 24/10/2010 at 02:36:50
64 Posted 24/10/2010 at 08:24:35
65 Posted 24/10/2010 at 08:37:49
By the way, those bashing Johnny H, remember how good he was last season, when playing in his natural position as CB, just a thought.
66 Posted 24/10/2010 at 09:00:18
67 Posted 24/10/2010 at 08:51:49
Apparently he played with a calf complaint today as well; he could've put Captain Marvel in the middle and Hibbo at RB. Instead of having 6 defenders on the pitch from the start.
Gotta get shot of Bily in January (maybe some mug will give us £6M), maybe even loan out Beckford to a Championship club although selling for £1-2M would do. I wish Moyes would give the young lad Gueye a run out for a change.
68 Posted 24/10/2010 at 09:23:51
And #44, don't spout on about being positive then say Bily is the worst signing in Everton history. Makes no sense.
69 Posted 24/10/2010 at 10:52:19
70 Posted 24/10/2010 at 11:07:21
million for him and that's the only reason he's on the pitch (unless he knows something about Moyes that we don't). When he's on the team sheet we start with 10 men and the opposition with 12. And people moan about Hibbert and Osman!
71 Posted 24/10/2010 at 11:50:33
72 Posted 24/10/2010 at 12:07:14
Maybe, just maybe he could do a job in another position like his preferred one? Shame that he would have to go through Timmy C to get there ofc.
73 Posted 24/10/2010 at 12:23:08
74 Posted 24/10/2010 at 13:25:54
Couldn't agree more. Anyone who says that Neville was fantastic yesterday, is unable to provide an objective assessment of his contribution.
He spent most of the match giving away fouls and then complaning to the referree. Not to mention the large number of crosses he put straight into the crowd. And he didn't stifle Bale... that credit goes to Cahill and Pienaar ? who took turns at helping Coleman out on that side.
Overall, I thought the game was a good one and a good result against a good side away from home.
However, again Jagielka and Howard made very basic errors that are criminal mistakes in defensive football... luckily Jagielka's didn't result in anything; however, Howard's did.
ps: Howard better than Nigel Martyn? Behave yourself.
75 Posted 24/10/2010 at 13:25:41
No doubt, he did have a shocker, but he also made some good saves after and did not show any ill effects after. Also, let's not forget he has also come through for the club many more times than he has "mucked it up". Some of you "fans" have to remember we are all human. The last 4 games, 3 clean sheets and only one goal conceded. I don't think Tim is going anywhere soon!
Good Thing Moyes has the "big picture" in mind. Here is his quote from the Everton site below.
"Tim Howard knows he flapped at it and he didn't get a connection. But I told him at half-time that if he doesn't keep coming we will struggle and the sign of a good goalkeeper is to let the mistake go and keep coming. He did that. he kept coming, taking the crosses and he helped the team to make sure we didn't concede another goal. Yes, it was a poor decision because he didn't get there but in the same breath he helped us in the second half"
I guess this is why HE is the Manager and a lot of you just like to flex "beer muscles"...
The team has turned it around after a poor start and away point vs a top 4 side with an injury depleted lineup is INDEED "One point earned".
MIchael, I respect your opinion, but after reading the columns for over a year, sometimes I think you could depress a hyena
76 Posted 24/10/2010 at 15:51:50
Nobody's going to claim Neville's perfect, and we've all seen enough of those lofted, shit crosses to last us a life time, but defensively, yesterday at least, he was excellent. Doubling up on Bale, dragging Bale inside onto his weaker foot, giving Crouch the tiniest brushes when he's in the air ? just enough to put him off balance but never enough to be considered a foul. Used all of his experience, and eventually Bale was switched to the right wing. How can you possibly give him no credit for this? Madness.
Also, not really related, but it was interesting to hear Cahill on Goals on Sunday today, talking about how much they miss Neville when he's not in the side, and that it's no coincidence that our dips in form tend to be when Neville's unavailable. Interesting, that's all.
77 Posted 24/10/2010 at 16:12:43
78 Posted 24/10/2010 at 16:47:41
If you are one of the coach's favourites ? Arteta, Osman, Howard, Neville ? you can fuck up as often as you like. If you are not then without an injury crisis you will get bit parts that will make you look shite or in the case of James Vaughan run yourself into injury. This was two points dropped, no doubt.
79 Posted 24/10/2010 at 18:16:55
Let's be honest here, 1 - 1 against a Spurs side that looked excellent to me. Everton fans have to always look for a problem no matter the result. Hopefully we can get a win against Stoke on Saturday.
80 Posted 24/10/2010 at 19:41:22
I know we all have different views on players but guys please listen not only to those who witness Neville's strengths but also to those that work and play alongside him every day. Bloody good point
81 Posted 24/10/2010 at 20:19:29
Jags and Distin are forming a strong partnership bit by bit and our goals against tally is evidence.
Howard made a major blunder but last month he was voted our best player......
82 Posted 24/10/2010 at 21:35:18
There arent many wingers in this league who Hibbert couldn't shut out if he played in the same fashion as Neville did yesterday. Certainly not Bale who has had one great game and looked a decent player for half a season.
83 Posted 24/10/2010 at 21:35:18
There arent many wingers in this league who Hibbert couldn't shut out if he played in the same fashion as Neville did yesterday. Certainly not Bale who has had one great game and looked a decent player for half a season.
84 Posted 24/10/2010 at 22:53:26
The vast majority of comments are one dimensional in the extreme, e.g. this player is crap, the manager/chairman is clueless etc.
What is needed is constructive criticism, not knee-jerk reaction, as in the Tim Howard stuff today. He's been excellent over the last couple of years but gets hammered for a rare error.
Must say, my favorite recent 'supporters' comment is part of a rant against DM's signings...
"Jags is great (man of the match today, I think) but he was bought as a utility player who could play midfield and at the back "
... by that logic, DM got lucky as it was a pure fluke he ended up centre back!!
85 Posted 25/10/2010 at 10:51:52
86 Posted 25/10/2010 at 12:55:13
However, going forward, the Stoke game on Saturday should be a giggle ? looking at their stats: Stoke play with 7 defenders away from home and we will play with 6, though Moyes may pick 7 as well (depending on injuries). I think we can guarantee about 3 shots on goal ? from both teams.
87 Posted 26/10/2010 at 11:46:19
Yes I have stopped to think about the fact that Billy's played out of position, I have also stopped to think why in the hell we signed him in the first place if we were going to give Tim Cahill another bumper contract. With the little money we had available to buy someone from the sale of lescott why does moyes spunk it on a player who he doesn't actually need? We've been sceaming out for a winger with pace for years, I have no doubt that Billy has a bit of quality in him and I feel sorry for the lad, but he was the wrong signing at the wrong time if moyes plays fella ahead of him in an attacking role when cahil's out then there's nothing down for him. He'd be better off elswhere.
88 Posted 30/10/2010 at 14:03:54
What a moronic counter...'oh Alan Hansen says so...therefore'
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