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A wet day in Blackpool

An unchanged starting line-up for Everton at the first league encounter at Bloomfield Road since 1971. Keith Southern, previously of Everton Reseves, playing for Blackpool., while Seamus Coleman returns to the club he helped bring up to the Premier League with his loan spell last season. On the bench, no room for Magaye Gueye, who has been there for every game so far... but has still not been given his Premier League debut. A quiet start saw Distin eventually go Route One to Yakubu whose cushioned header back to Cahill was leathered high wide and horrible!

Arteta gave away a poor free-kick on 9 mins that Eardley powered a little too easily round the wall and well past Howard into the Everton net. Howard perhaps at fault?

Blues shocked and stunned... but it didn't take long before great work by Distin in the build-up preceded an exquisite turn and chip by Yakubu that was nodded in superbly past Gilks off a great header from Cahill.

First corner won on 20 mins but Arteta floated it far too high and deep. Eardley was booked for a mistimed clip on Cahill. A second goal was close when Cahill and Yakubu combined but Cahill's snapshot was blocked off Yakubu into the keeper's hands.

Some excellent passing finally released Baines into the area but he took an extra touch as Everton took full control, camping out in the Blackpool half. More intricate play by Pienaar almost set up Yakubu but he was rapidly closed down.

Crainey clashed legs with Coleman, giving away a free kick wide right that Arteta clipped in well (fast and low) but it was headed clear. Coleman made a great drive into the area, beating three men before driving a fierce shot just wide.

After bossing the first half, Heitinga cnceded a 'professional' free-kick in the centre-circle and in the ensuing attack, Everton just could not get the ball clear during a bit of goalmouth ping-pong that ended with David Vaughan scoring for Blackpool to stun the Blues again... But, again, it didn't take long for Everton to equalize, Coleman picking up Crainey's poor defensive header and running in with determination and firing off a low shot in on Gilks that he could only palm into the net.

Saha replaced The Yak on the hour mark, Southern also off for Phillips for Blackpool before Arteta clipped in a free-kick well won by Coleman on the right; but it ended in a break buy fresh-legged Phllips that Heitinga did well to thwart, and a follow-up drive from Adams flew thankfully wide.

A corner on 65 mins came to nought, Everton then playing the ball backward from a position of good possession. The game tempo was hotting up with some tremendous action at both ends, a great cross from Neville that was stolen off Saha's head (does he score with his head?), brilliant defending by Jagielka, a fantastic run and cross by Coleman, a superb one-two for Pienaar that he finished far too weakly, hitting the ball into the ground, a Baines corner bundled out by Jagielka as the rain lashed in from across the Irish Sea.

Last 20 mins and the match was on a knife-edge, Pienaar laid off a great ball for Saha and the third goal beckoned but incredibly, he clipped it wide!!! At the other end, Varney spun the Everton defenders but also fired well wide. Harewood and Grandin came on for Taylor-Fletcher and Varney as a lower-trajectory corner from Arteta was easily headed away. Pienaar then made way for Diniyar Bilyaletdinov, then Beckford received extensive instructions before replacing Heitinga with only 13 mins of normal time to claim the game.

Blackpool still had plenty of life in them but Bily and Becks combined only the big League One player couldn't get past his blocker. It was end-to-end in the pouring rain, Harewood trying it on from distance. Arteta getting too easily dispossessed as the pedulum swung back and forth. Cahill, a great run down the left, his low cross incredibly evading not one but four Blue shirts in the Blackpool area.

There were increasing signs of tiredness as possession was lost cheaply by both sides... 4-4-2 against 4-2-4. Jagielka put in a tremendous block to stop Adam shooting. Adam, with lots more space since Hietinga went off, fired again from distance but the ball flew over. The Seasiders kept attacking with conviction, preventing Everton from putting together meaningful attacks.

Then a strange run of play on the 90, as Harewood ran on to a good lob and slotted past Howard only for the goal to be called back for some infringement ? apparently a nudge by Harewood on Jagielka before he laid the ball off for the lob.

Jagielka then gave away a free-kick at the death that Adams drove for a corner off the Everton wall as it was all Blackpool in added time. But they didn't score and a very entertaining game finished 2-2. A game Everton had dominated for long periods but their superior possession and passing was not enough to produce the win, with the real cutting edge still missing up-front.

Michael Kenrick     Posted 06/11/2010 at

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Joey Brown
1   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:03:54

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Bily and Beckford are passengers... it was 9 on 11 at the end there, and Arteta still has yet to convince me he deserved his contract and is making me wish I had gotten the Cahill jersey instead...
Nick Entwistle
2   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:11:30

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We could be sitting in 4th. The desire to walk the ball into the net cost us today, concentrating too much on the overlap, even when right on the penalty box. If someone could just lash it, we wouldn't be hacked off.

Heitinga's substitution was a poor choice and screwed us over... really annoyed. Still, with heightened performance comes heightened expectation... undefeated in 6.

Joe McMahon
3   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:13:50

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I've just poted on the live forum, but I'll say it again: Where exactly are we going? Moyes has been our manager for donkeys' years, we are still in a clapped out stadium, our chairman is a (well make your own mind up) and if Moyes is so bloody good, why has no-one made an approach for him in all these years? Oh yeah... he's off to Man U.
Tony Cheek
4   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:13:18

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I still think there are goals in Beckford, but think we should have tried Saha and the Yak together. But Christ, we looked open when Heitinga went off.

Still lacking that bite in the box though. Why can't any of our players put their bleeding foot through the ball when they get a chance, stop bleeding sidefooting!!! Think that Louis should have gone down and got the penalty when he was hit.

Happy with a point in the end. Jags and Distin good again. Howard went down like London Bridge for their first.

Joe McMahon
5   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:22:35

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I do think Beckford should be given a chance, we seem to be forgiving Saha, and he hasn't scored since he signed the new contract. Glad that Coleman is proving himself, many of us were wanting him there last year, but of course abusive posters on this site shot us down in flames.
Larry Boner
6   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:35:06

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Heitinga was crying to come off most of the 2nd half, we need to lose both him and Bily in January, along, unfortunately with Peinaar and inject fresh blood into this team. Heitinga would not even be playing if Fellaini or Rodwell were fit enough.

Somebody needs to show the Everton players videos of players SHOOTING ? what the fuck is wrong with them???

What a waste of money the Saha contract was, another sitter missed. Beckford also way out of his depth, these are the consequences of underfunding the manager's plans.

Thor Sørensen
7   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:43:06

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No-one else thinking there should've been a penalty for Everton and a red card when Saha was clean through on goal?

He was pulled from behind just as he made his shot (and missed).

By the way, it was a good chance, but it was far from a "sitter".
Larry Boner
8   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:51:05

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The money Saha is on, they should all be sitters.
Steven Twine
9   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:33:20

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Watched the game on the computer and thought we played really well first half. 2nd half not as well but overall we should have beaten them.

I know their 3rd was disallowed (there was a tug on Jagielka's shirt) but Pienaar and Saha should have buried their chances. With us we need a second goal, whether we go in front or draw level, because we don't create tap-ins for our strikers... so, when we make an opportunity, we have to take it. Then, when we do I think we will go on and score more.

I believe that we will hammer some team soon. I'm gutted we didn't get three points today but we are unbeaten in 6 games and ahead of the Red Shite.

Jon Cox
10   Posted 06/11/2010 at 17:54:32

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What is with Everton and shooting? Do we not practise on the training ground. Arteta has a great shot on him but we rarely see it. Same with Pienaar. I just don't understand. What is it about walking the ball into the net.

The % of this tactic in reality is far too low for it to be a winner. Very nice to watch but we need some mix-n-match now and again.

Come on, Davey work on our shooting, FFS.
Michael Kenrick
11   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:11:57

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Jon, I've tried not to say anything because I just get slammed down when I dare to suggest the most probable cause... but asking Davey to sort it out is a bit of a laff: he IS the cause, I'm increasingly convinced, and game after game just reinforces it for me.

Track back, cover, don't lose shape. Not shoot on sight. As a defender, that's all he knows. It's the Everton Way... under Moyes.
Martin Mason
12   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:03:19

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I didn't see it and am glad to be able to read about it here. disappointing yes but it was a banana-skin type game. One point is not good with 3 points for a win? Losing Pienaar could destabilize Everton and I have never seen such chronic mismanagement as not selling him during the summer window.

Bily must go and Heitinga probably will but what a shame, he is a bloody good player. Now we have a RM problem and a LM problem and a serious striker problem. I saw flashes of Yakubu on Kazakh TV and his turn and cross for Cahill's goal was excellent. Surely he is guaranteed for one of the striker berths?

Paul Thompson
13   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:23:37

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Michael: blaming Moyes for problems with shooting because he is too defensive is ridiculous. There's no relationship between the two. This was not a defensive display. Moyes used to get attacked by you and others for hoofball. Now, that is impossible, it's got to be his fault for something else. There was a lot of vibrant attacking football. But we lack clinical finishers. I'm sure Moyes knows this and wants to put it right. Whether he'll get the money to do so is another matter.

By the way, 'track back, cover and don't lose shape' is the foundation of success in the modern game. It's when we stopped doing that and adopted 4-4-2, the chances dried up.
Nick Entwistle
14   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:30:10

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Can't agree with you on that today MK. And for all those who want Moyes to turn a game with positive subs, look where it got us today. 2 up front opened us up and we gave up possession. He would have been wiser to leave it how it was... but good for him to risk one point to get three.

Can't believe Tony thinks Saha should have gone down. Who are we? Liverpool? We don't do that and the Yak should have known better.
Michael Kenrick
15   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:44:03

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I think it's a question of emphasis combined with the manager's ethos and his natural inclinations. Saying that we don't have clinical finishers when we have Saha, Yakubu, Arteta, Rodwell, Bilyaletdinov ? even Osman ? seems somewhat disingenuous to them. I just don't believe Moyes has the right idea of how to employ them or ? perhaps more importantly ? how to train them to get them into tip-top goalscoring form in the Premier League.

Think about it: Defence is Job One. Scoring goals is a luxury, not the essential purpose of the game ? that is defending. You have to defend for the entire match; you grab goals opportunistically.
Michael Kenrick
16   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:51:55

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"It's when we stopped doing that and adopted 4-4-2, the chances dried up."

If I wanted to be particularly caustic, I would point out that this is proof Moyes has no idea when it comes to training his team of players to attack effectively.
Nick Entwistle
17   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:54:08

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We can work the ball great up to the edge of the penalty box, and there the problems start. I never believe a simple easy pass is going to be played. Ends up with Arteta fannying around and passing to Neville for that killer cross.
Paul Thompson
18   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:59:42

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If Moyes didn't know how to 'attack effectively' we wouldn't be creating chances. But we are or at least we did in this game.

Not putting them away is partly down to confidence ? a vital asset for a striker.Despite the goal last week, Yakubu is not back to his best and Saha needs a goal or two to get his confidence back. Beckford simply hasn't had enough time on the pitch or service to demonstrate one way or another. Arteta and Pienaar score some good occasional goals, but are not goalscoring midfielders in the Nolan or Gerard mould. And they don't shoot enough (does Moyes tell them not to? I doubt it). Bily can certainly shoot, but his general play is so poor that it barely matters. Which leaves Cahill and that's why we are so dependent on him for goals.

There's no easy solution to all this, but lame (and predictable) attacks on Moyes is obscuring more than it is explaining.

Albert Perkins
19   Posted 06/11/2010 at 18:59:37

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A good game from Seamus and a class response to scoring against his old teammates. Great character to not go crazy after scoring your first goal in the PL. Love to see him come good.

I posted the other day about clinical finishing. Anyone Chelsea put in or around the box can score and they do it regularly. They are the top team. They are the big earners.

We are pretty good at creating scoring opportunities but don't have that level of expertise to score that extra goal a game that makes all the difference. You don't have to blast a shot to score from the edge of the area, it takes composure, practice and confidence.

Keep on shootin' boys, and not just blanks.

James Stewart
20   Posted 06/11/2010 at 19:30:55

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Some interesting thoughts. I have to say I agree a lot with Michael when it comes to Moyes and attacking tactics. A good game but it became slightly embarrassing at the end. Moyes seems to think that changing tactic is simply substitute one striker for another. We are so wasteful in the final third it is untrue!

Pienaar and Baines pissed me off today with their impression of Arsenal trying to walk the ball into the net. Just fucking shoot or cross when you are in a good position! Coleman's goal was a prime example of what happens if you shoot on target with power. I can say for certain that Pienaar would not have shot in that position.
Dean Adams
21   Posted 06/11/2010 at 19:35:05

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Michael Kenrick

Can't agree with you on that performance. They had 2 goals from 2 shots, where we had 1 from 10. The difference is beleif in your ability (and at the moment not passing to Arteta).
We have a few coming back and I would love to see big Vic running at Boltons defence in midweek, alongside the Yak.
Jon Cox
22   Posted 06/11/2010 at 19:25:38

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I'm sorry but how many attacks did we have were we had the ball 2/3 yards from the "D"? Too many to count. It's getting silly. Why won't anyone shoot?

Paul, If the buck doesn't stop with Moyes (and I like the guy), then with whom does the buck stop?

Granted Moyes went for the win late on but surely if Rodwell was on the bench and Arteta was tiring then what was needed was a "box-to-box" player coming on who can beat people and is not afraid to have a shot.

Sorry but he brings on Bily and leaves Rodders on the bench, is it any wonder that Moyes's judgment gets called into question?

No is or buts ? they were there for the taking today and we failed, simple as.
Andy Crooks
23   Posted 06/11/2010 at 19:40:24

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Michael, spot on. Safety first. I just cannot believe that most Evertonians are not sick of it. This was an abysmal result and to talk of it as another game without defeat is just mind boggling. A point away to Blackpool is not good enough. Negative, dull, safety first, sneak a goal, get behind the ball, keep the shape. We are going nowhere under David Moyes. Neither up nor down. Is that good enough? Sadly to many it is.
Joe McMahon
24   Posted 06/11/2010 at 19:55:13

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Andy 23 - Nail on Head. I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks this. We have sunk so low over the years, a draw with Blackpool is not questioned. £9.5 mil on Bily... christ!
Brian Lawlor
25   Posted 06/11/2010 at 20:00:32

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There are some serious knee-jerk beauts on this site.

We drop 2 points away to Blackpool in a game we had over 20 attempts at goal and the knives are out again. Pathetic.

Joe McMahon - with some of your shouts, you've got to be Steve's brother.

Paul Thompson
26   Posted 06/11/2010 at 20:05:46

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Andy Crooks: 'Negative, dull, safety first, sneak a goal, get behind the ball'.

Did you actually watch the game or this comment straight out of the "Moyes can do no right" filing cabinet with no connection to any observable reality?
Jon Cox
27   Posted 06/11/2010 at 20:12:52

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Paul Thompson, Tosh mate. I saw the game today and if you are saying 20 shots at goal then let's look at the 20 shots yeah?

Scuffed, dragged, weak in power and missed by a mile. How many of the twenty actually made their goalkeeper work for his living?

Listen, £40k plus a week and I for expect more in the skills of a professional footballer when shooting on goal.

Your arguments just don't stand up. The psychological thought patterns of the team, of any team to be fair, will always reflect their manager. Check out Barry Fry for example.

It's no good saying how great and wonderful our football is, at the end of the day it's "Points make prizes"

Paul, what do points make?
Paul Thompson
28   Posted 06/11/2010 at 20:30:39

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Jon, Very little sense in your case.
Andrew Presly
29   Posted 06/11/2010 at 20:32:44

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We're going to finish between 7th & 9th this season.... It's getting samey... seasons are beginning to blur under Moyes now.

It was an entertaining game today but you can see why a lot (all?!) of these players have failed to end up at the top clubs throughout Europe (by which I mean regular CL sides) and find themselves playing for us for a nice £30-70 large a week. Saha, Heitinga, Arteta, Neville, Howard.....

They're mostly all decent players but lack that 10/15% which separates the nearly men from the winners. Sad to say. And are they that bothered? A draw with Blackpool is pretty tame whatever the circumstances, especially when we've blown so many points already this season... and lost to Brentford. Anyway, on to Bolton.....
Jon Cox
30   Posted 06/11/2010 at 20:44:08

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Paul, explain... I'm ready to be educated. But sorry, mate ? today, this was not good enough. NSNO.
Rob Hollis
31   Posted 06/11/2010 at 21:30:38

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The shooting policy may indeed come from the Manager.

I remember Lee Carsley scoring a peach against Birmingham at home. When interviewed he did say the manager does not like us shooting from so far out.

Recently Baines laid on an injury time goal for Cahill and said that the Manager did not like him to be that far up the pitch so late in the game.

It sounded very entertaining today so I am not having a go, did not actually see it. But our Manager is without doubt too cautious.
Alan McGuffog
32   Posted 06/11/2010 at 21:52:07

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Does the "emperors suit of clothes" idea resonate with anyone out there ?Yakubu, Saha, Beckford, Vaughan, Anichebe... these are all strikers who, sadly, can't strike.
Our overall progress is hampered by having a bunch of forwards who can't do the jobs thay are paid handsomely for.

Brett Angell, Rod Belfitt, Joe Harper, Jimmy Hill... please come home!

Jon Cox
33   Posted 06/11/2010 at 22:08:14

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Michael, I seem to have lost one of my posts. Did I fall short of a stamp, gone, bit the dust, it is an ex-post "may led" (Monty).

Alan (32), well said. If you are paid to be a striker then fucking be a striker. If you can't do the bizz, then why should the fans pay the money that they can't afford, week-in, week-out, as their electric and gas bills fall onto the welcome mat?

Sort it, Everton... because we deserve more.
Nick Entwistle
34   Posted 06/11/2010 at 23:17:24

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One of the most exciting games of the day and we're what, second to last on Match of the Day... lovely.
Lee Kidd
35   Posted 06/11/2010 at 23:23:54

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Good game. Poor end result. The strikers are wank at the moment.

That's pretty much the summary of the game. What I don't understand is the criticism of Beckford. If Lionel Messi only got 15-20 minutes on the pitch every week he wouldn't make much of an impression. The lad needs time before you can make any sort of judgment on him.

Unfortunately, the same can't be said for Bilyaletdinov. We need to sell him for whatever we can get (£5m would be magic tbh), and invest in a striker.

It's a shame we missed out on that Gyan, or even Obinna who I think would have done a decent job for us this year.
Robbie Shields
36   Posted 06/11/2010 at 23:18:19

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Michael, I normally agree with you 100% but this time I have got to disagree. I thought our play was wonderful with the odd exception of turning and playing backwards when in Blackpool's half for some reason, which put us on the defensive and actually cost us the second goal. Blackpool were very lucky, first goal was a gimme and second was a mistake by Heitinga, then he was fouled, then just plain bad luck. We had 20 shots to their 10, away from home and played some lovely football for a change.

As for the negatives, I think Moyes is going to rue not sorting out Pienaar's contract, he was superb, best I have seen him play, can't believe we are going to let him go, smacks of Don Hutchinson all over again. Billy is awful, watched him in Austalia in training and matches and he was awful, I wouldn't have him on the bench.

If we played like that every week I would be very happy. Please, Moyes, don't return to hoofball ever again; this is more like it.
Lee Kidd
37   Posted 06/11/2010 at 23:27:30

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Oh, as a sidenote, Yak has looked better in the last two games but he fades really badly as his fitness level is obviously nowhere near what a top flight "28-year-old" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) should be.
Paul Olsen
38   Posted 07/11/2010 at 02:35:20

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Haha, Michael. So now you are apparently afraid to speak your mind because you get shot down?

Yeah, and pig's can fly.
Michael Kenrick
39   Posted 07/11/2010 at 04:29:16

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Sorry, Paul Olsen, you want more? I'd made my point and backed it up... and had agreement from some others on this thread. I thought I was done.

But you want more? Okay...

"If Moyes didn't know how to 'attack effectively' we wouldn't be creating chances." ? There are chances and chances. It wasn't as if we were creating clear-cut chances and missing them (well, except for one ? Saha's). Generally, though, the quality of our so-called chances has not been great; we have not been missing a large number of sitters. There have been many occasions this season when a more powerful shot might have produced different results. But the problem may well be what Paul Thompson dismisses:

"And they don't shoot enough (does Moyes tell them not to? I doubt it)." ? Well, apparently that is just the case. And it unfortunately underlines exactly the problem: we have it on record that Moyes has instructed players not to shoot from distance. And you can tell by watching how we play that their demeanour around the opposition penalty appears to reflect this negative ethos from the manager.

Now I can understand that many will find that hard to accept. I myself find it astounding that a Premier League manager would instruct any of his players (with the possible exception of Hibbert) in any circumstance not to shoot... but I don't come out with this stuff ? Moyes does.

"There's no easy solution to all this, but lame (and predictable) attacks on Moyes is obscuring more than it is explaining." ? Ah, there we go.... 'lame and predictable attacks on Moyes'. On reflection, I don't think I'll bother dignifying that one with a response.

ps: Jon Cox: I moved your missing post onto the Ken Buckley thread.

Tony McNulty
40   Posted 07/11/2010 at 08:31:05

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Re. the last two posts I don't think there are too many of us on here who are in need of an assertiveness course.

As part of my job I sometimes have to facilitate difficult meetings (and I'm actually quite good at this stuff). I think I would wake up in a cold sweat if I had to run a session with the gang of shrinking violets we get on here. Imagine trying to run a meeting with a roomful of Toffeewebbers.
Mike Green
41   Posted 07/11/2010 at 09:02:43

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I said it when we were in the bottom 3 and I'll say it again - we'll finish 4th. I think some posters on here think every other team in the prem win every game they play. Serious personality complexes. COYB!
Bertie Alloff
42   Posted 07/11/2010 at 09:52:55

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Well at least one thing is certain after yesterdays pefrormance....all those who have been crying out for us to play 4-4-2 for the last few weeks have been put in their place. Everton were getting mullered by a very average team without Heitinga playing defensive mid (who in my opinion we should be well shot of in Jan). By the final whistle we were hanging on again.
Paul Olsen
43   Posted 07/11/2010 at 10:05:31

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There ya go Michael, didn't it feel nice to let it out? :-)
Dean Adams
44   Posted 07/11/2010 at 11:04:55

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So we are missing Fellani and Rodwell. Who wouldnt? With both of them back it means Arteta gets forward into a more attacking position. Lets see how crap our attacks are then. If we are still shit then most of the pragmatists will feel less confident, but when we improve as we will..... well who knows how high we can get.
Brian Waring
45   Posted 07/11/2010 at 12:13:57

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It's funny how we had some pointing out that we made loads of chances against Stoke, loads against Blackpool and so on, and they make it sound as if somehow that's a good stat and nothing to be worried about.

Well lads, creating loads of chances, and not putting them away, is seriously fucking worrying.
Paul Thompson
46   Posted 07/11/2010 at 12:14:32

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Michael: 'we have it on record that Moyes has instructed players not to shoot from distance'. What exactly is this 'record'? The comments from Rob Hollis (above)? I listened to the relevant interview with Leighton Baines on EvertonTV and there was no mention of the manager not liking him to be so far up the pitch late on. And it does some unlikley given the number of late goals that have been scored through exactly that route. As for the Carsley comment, lt's an 'I remember' one ? hardly conclusive. If you have more and better 'record', fine.

My comments were not intended as a Moyes is always right contribution. But let's criticise him for the actual things he gets wrong. An example yesterday ? taking Heitinga off and putting Beckford on. Result ? letting Charlie Adam run free and unbalancing the shape of the team. But a lot of TofffeeWebbers would have supported the change. Why? Because Moyes is 'always so defensive'.
Jimmy Hacking
47   Posted 07/11/2010 at 13:24:06

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We should have given Saha a contract whereby he received a basic salary of £5,000 per week and a bonus of £200,000 for every first-team goal he scores. I wonder how many sitters he would have missed then, or how many months of the season he'd be sitting on a French beach.
Gerry Quinn
48   Posted 07/11/2010 at 13:29:57

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Pre-season training:

Having watched Everton train on four separate visits to the USA, I can honestly state that I have never seen the team practising attacking moves, but have seen short spells of shooting. The majority of the training work appears to be focused on defensive formations for corners and free kicks, and these include where the forwards and midfield place themselves.

There are short 5-a-side sessions in a tight area, but I cannot recall witnessing an actual attacking session ? other than a pass from one of the trainers for a shot.

I have previously asked if anyone else has attended training sessions at Finch Farm, but have not had any comments. I'm sure that we must, but I'll ask the question again ? do we, or don't we spend an allotted time to practise attacking moves in training?

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