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Louis Saha was declared fit enough to start along with Jermaine Beckford upfront in what appears to be a potentially attacking formation, but for the inclusion of Osman who gets the call ahead of Bilyaletdinov .  Cahill and Rodwell started on the bench as they are probably not fully fit.  Jagielka is favoured over Heitinga, who was annoyed to have been benched for the Cup replay at Chelsea last week.

It was scrappy stuff in the bright sunshine for the first few minutes, although Gyan did try to beat Everton's offside  Richardson did beat the trap and had a one-on-one with Howard but screwed his shot across goal and well wide.  Finally a better Everton move won the first corner, taken by Arteta that was short to Neville, his cross was poor, put back in by Saha but beyond Fellaini. 

Beckford got into space with the ball at his feet from an excellent set-up by Osman and his deft shot beat the keepper and bounced off Bramble's shin, just inside the Sunderland goal.  Nice start!

Sunderland looked to respond and Howard di well to deal with their attacks.  A bobbling  ball sat up for Beckford again but his control and technique was sadly League 2 level and the chance was gone.  Beckford's movement was keeping Sunderland fully occupied, and he looked to get forward past Mensah but could not get away from Ferdinand.

Mensah came in far too hard on Saha and got a strong word from the ref. Saha looked to break into the Sunderland area but his second touch was poor and he lost the ball. A long ball from Sunderland ended up with a fierce shot by Sessegnon that Tim Howard was alert to and just got enough on it to deflect it onto the underside of the bar and it bounced down in front of the line, a tremendous escape for the Blues.

Everton had to defend on the half-hour and eventually gave away a dangerous free-kick that took an age to execute that was set square to Bardsley and was well blocked, allowing Everton to break but  Saha slipped at the crucial moment when in space on the right and another attack ended lamely.

Another attack looked to be well constructed with Saha advancing and well supported but a sloppy pass from Arteta caught Osman's heel and the whole thing collapsed again.  Fellaini fell heavily, perhaps turning his ankle  and looked to be replaced but the magic spray produced a rapid recovery. 

Everton were struggling to complete attacking moves but did a lot better on a long clearance from Jagielka where Arteta left Ferdinand for dead and scampered forward, a stepover to fool Mensah, then cutting the ball back from the byeline for Beckford to scuff his shot off a defender again but it had enough momentum to bobble just inside the other post for a second Everton goal.

Fellaini could not carry on, and Rodwell came on in his place. Saha appeared to get into space but his shot hit a defender as half-time approached.  He was in a good mood and had another long run at the Sunderland defence but drove his shot wide. 

After the break, Osman got the ball to Beckford who rather lashed his shot off-balance, over the bar. Arteta then challenged and sipossed a Sunderland player in the cntre-circle to gain possession ? when did he last do that? Saha then produced a nice flick-on from a Neville throw-in that set up nicely for Osman to score but instead he put it wide.

Coleman made a good run and fed a great ball to Beckford who was scythed down in the area, but he had strayed fractionally offside. No penalty.  Rodwell had a good run through the middle but Osman's cross was poor. 

On the hour, no more subs, but a lively attack started by Osman again feeding Beckford well, but shots form Saha and Coleman were saved by Mignolet.  Rodwell got a good run in down the left and won a corner from Baines that was punched away.  Bardsley then came through Saha and gave Everton a good free-kick opportunity but Arteta drove it low and hard, denying Baines the chance repeat his Chelsea party trick. 

Beckford was tiring and went off to a good shout from the Goodison crowd after 73 mins, replaced by Tim Cahill. Osman got another chance for glory  but screwed another first-time volley well wide. Coleman tried to score with a fearsome cross that forced a good save from Mignolet. 

Baines had a good run but his cross/shot was too deep.  Saha went off with 8 mins left, Bilyaletdinov replacing him. The best move of the game deserved a goal after interchange from Osman, Baines and Cahill set Bily up but he too volleyed wide. 

Osman, who was to be proclaimed Man of the Match, again was in the thick of it, getting into a great position to score, going wide around the keeper .... but failing yet again as his path to goal was now blocked by two defenders. He will get plaudits for his link-up play, which did set up the first goal, but really he should have delivered far more.

But it was a good solid result for the Blues, and a much-needed home win, a much-needed three points, a much-needed clean sheet, and some much-needed goals from Jermaine Beckford.


Michael  Kenrick     Posted 26/02/2011 at

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Morgan Rhys
1   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:02:57

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The Black Cats couldn?t steal the toffees off Moyes?s sweet tray as Beckford fires two goals pass Mignolet.

Fresh from their FA Cup fourth-round reply win at Chelsea last weekend, Everton return to Premier League action in high spirits and with a positive feeling about the rest of the season.

Jermaine Beckford got his sixth goal of the season in the 8th minute when Leon Osman found Beckford in the penalty area with the ball into the bottom left corner. Thirty-one minutes later Beckford got his second goal when Mikel Arteta passed it in and Beckford put the ball in the bottom right corner.

The game finished 2-0 with both goals in the first half just like last season at Goodison Park when it finished 2-0 with first half goals from Tim Cahill and Landon Donovan.

Steve Cotton
2   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:10:34

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Osman Man of the Match???? He should have scored 4, was too lightweight in the challenges and made me realise that a class player in his position today and we would have scored a hatfull.

Baines, Jags, Distin and Arteta all played well, Saha is class and but for two good additions this would be a team challenging much higher...

Michael Kenrick
3   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:20:54

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I wasn't impressed either, Steve. Yes, he gets himself into good positions, but he just does not deliver. [Okay, he delivered once, setting up Beckford.] Today's performance from Osman was perhaps on a par with Pienaar when he was being lauded by the Blues.

I was happier with Arteta, although, for all of Moyes's deadball talk, he again took most of them, to... er... zero net effect.

Still, a very, very important win for us. If we'd failed today, this place would be in meltdown...
Kieran Kinsella
4   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:22:43

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I thought Osman played well but it seemed like after he set up some good chances it went to his head a bit and he got carried away with trying to score a 30-yarder. However, well as he played I have to ask if Barry Horne is his Dad.

The whole game all Horne did was go on and on about Osman but barely said anything about anyone else e.g. Beckford. I read a few weeks back Horne had a whole article in the Echo banging on about how Osman is Everton's key man etc. What gives? I know Os gets some stick but to hear Horne you would think he is Messi.

Kieran Kinsella
5   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:24:51

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I agree Arteta did well except for obviously on set pieces. Oddly enough I thought Baines had a poor game but it was bound to happen at some point as he is not superman.
Max Main
6   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:27:22

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Great to see. Everton win, Osman is at the heart of almost everything good and is proclaimed MOTM by everyone.... and Toffeeweb roundly declare he should have done more.

Tiresome.
Andy Peers
7   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:23:47

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Sorry to Osman bash but the first goal was an over hit pass to Saha that went through to Beckford by chance. To be honest this was Osman's best game probably ever and it didn't impress me enough to make him a starter.

Why didn't Baines take that free kick that Arteta muffed?
Michael Kenrick
8   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:36:18

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Oh aye, here they come...

So what are you saying, Max Main ? that he shouldn't have actually got one of those shots at least on target or in the net?

Astounding!
Joe McParland
9   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:30:08

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Noticeable how Arteta seems to be playing better again now that Osman is back in the team!!!
Richard Dodd
10   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:38:39

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Ossie (and Hibbo) bashing is a favourite sport on Toffeeweb ? neither of them ever get a good word in spite of their tremendous effort in the Everton cause. Ossie was immense today and so well deserved his MotM recognition.
Paul McGinty
11   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:34:42

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Distin and Jags again looked solid. Nice to see a clean sheet which is an obvious foundation for securing wins. I was in favor of bringing Jags back, replacing Heitinga; apparently fitness was the issue not the manager's sanity. His distribution looked fine today, our midfield got a lot of the ball and as a result we won going away.
Ryan Scails
12   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:48:06

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Beckford went off injured... not tired AT ALL ? he could run for days. Not sure how you missed him being forced off and Cahill scrambling to get off the bench.
Eric Myles
13   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:48:16

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Gotta say I agree with you Doddy.

I suppose the others would give MOTM to Fellaini.
Gerry Quinn
14   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:53:10

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Moyes today became only the 4th Manager to go over 500 points in the EPL....
Max Main
15   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:53:12

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I'm saying his performance wasn't 100% perfection, but he was the best player on the pitc, but as always on Toffeeweb the negatives outweigh the positives.

And I know, I know, I've heard your mantra a thousand times "I criticise because I want them to be better ? that's positive".

It's negative to criticise our best player after a comfortable win. And it's fucking boring.
Jamie Barlow
16   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:49:10

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I think it's 'astounding' that you can't just say Osman had a good game. So he fluffed a few chances. So did Beckford and both his scuffed shots went in. Give the lad a break ffs.
Ryan Holroyd
17   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:55:10

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Re Osman. When he's playing well the football we play is always much better. Yes, he's not Messi or Nani but he's a decent player for a skint club. I have to laugh at some people. If he makes an assist it's an over-hit pass. Give me strength.
Peter Askins
18   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:55:40

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Good performances all round, and a deserved win against a higher-placed team.

Tim Howard seems to have re-discovered his form and confidence, after a stream of "iffy" performances this season.

The back four looks more solid with Jagielka there, so now picks itself. Baines continues to impress as an attacking force, and was at the heart of the best move of the match, resulting in Bily's near miss at the end of the match.

The midfield dominated, which was a major achievement, up against the much-heralded Henderson, Sessegnon, and Muntari. Nice to see Rodwell come on too, and get involved, stretching his legs and showing his class (homage to David Coleman there !).

Nice too for Moyes to be rewarded by playing two upfront. Saha now looks interested, and Beckford is starting to read the through balls. His movement for both goals was excellent, and even if he did scuff them, he made his own luck.

Overall, a deserved win, and I'm now looking up, rather than down!
Duncan McDine
19   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:55:23

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Ossie was excellent, especially at chasing back to help out the defense... but I felt Jags, Arteta, Howard (tipping onto the bar) and Distin were better shouts for MotM... and I forgot to mention Saha ? my favourite player to watch since Kanchelskis. If only we had a decent replacement when he's not fit.

Well done to Becks on his goals too. Let's hope Felli's injury is just a knock.

Roll on Tuesday!
Jon Cox
20   Posted 26/02/2011 at 17:40:38

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Let's see if he can carry on against Reading where he left off today but with the added bonus of a goal.

I know he never scored, but he was still a useful cog in the machine today and put in a good shift. And besides goals that will do for me.
Garry Corgan
21   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:13:53

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I was actually at the game today. I think after scoring early, the players decided that Sunderland weren't too much of a threat (Richardson's early chance and Sessegnon's crossbar rattler aside). We seemed a little bit tired after last week's 120-min+ epic, and had one eye on the Reading game on Tuesday.

All-in-all, a decent performance without ever looking spectacular, with no real weak links in the team. Didn't see Baines making too many bombing overlapping runs today, and Coleman ran himself into too many blind alleys. Got a bit of luck with each of the goals (first one a good candidate for an own-goal and the second scuffed into the far corner).

Tony McNulty
22   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:24:59

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I wonder if Heitinga shoulder-charged Moysie during training. Just a thought.
Patrick Pulis
23   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:31:45

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Off topic question. Does the winner of the Carling and FA Cups still automatically qualify for Europa League? Or has that changed?
Ray Said
24   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:32:00

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Doddy (10)
Re Osman; Effort alone is just not enough,
Gavin Ramejkis
25   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:18:14

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Ossie worked hard today and showed tidy feet but his finishing lets him down, he had to go missing from the wing Moyes sat him on as he isn't a bleeding winger but you can't blame him for being put there yet again.

A decent result which will do nicely, Moyes' after match radio interview said Fellaini went into the game not recovered from an ankle injury so hopefully he's not completely goosed it, Beckford came off injured and again will have to wait and see and Cahill really only went on because of Beckford's injury (you knew it was a very quick change as he didn't even get to warm up).

One thing that did strike me is how good Gyan looked in comparison to Anichebe (yes I know he wasn't even on the bench), but for an older player he looked to have two decent feet and a great motor on him and good at holding the ball up for them to come in to attack.

My view on MoTM would be very close between Osman and Distin who both had good games today.
Ben Jones
26   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:37:29

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For god sake, Michael wrote that, out of almost every good move that we had, Osman was a part of. Yes, he had a few bad shots but he should finally deserve some credit.

Credit where credit's due jeeeeeeeeeeez
Michael Kenrick
27   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:33:37

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Max, I think your attitude is tiresome and fucking boring. We don't all have to march to the same beat, you know.

I've given my honest assessment of Osman, who I don't think is all that good as a player. Yet some people think he's this fantastic performer for Everton... well, as hard as I might look, I just don't see it. Worse, they get all gobby and play the righteous keyboard warrior when anyone dares not to share their opinion.

Today's performance was a bit better than the normal Osman display but certainly a long, long way from "immense" or any of these other overblown plaudits some are so keen to heap on the lad. They say he's this great "technical" player... well I think his shooting today exemplified just how technical he is... ie, not very.

I shouldn't need to remind you that this facility is provided for Evertonians to share their opinions on the game, the players, the manager, the club ? not as an avenue for abusive denigration of others' opinions. I suggest you find a less dismissive way to provide your contributions.
Michael Kenrick
28   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:45:34

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The key, Ben, is that Osman's efforts resulted in so little. Yes, he was involved, but my honest opinion is that it should have resulted in a lot more by way of end product ? either him scoring or setting up better chances for others to score. I've given him the credit for setting up the first goal ? the idea that it was a 'mistake' from an over-hit cross was not something I thought at the time.
Will Firstbrook
29   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:48:39

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While extremely happy with the final result, I think I am more pleased with the clean sheet. Jags and Distin were tidy and seemed to have a very good understanding between them.

No surprise, the departure of Felliani saw us surrender much of the midfield control we enjoyed earlier in the match. He is immense and hopefully does not miss too much time.
David Booth
30   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:46:37

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Osman's merits to one side, you need to calm down Michael. As a 'moderator' we ought surely to expect a little more tact and diplomacy.

Max is entitled to his opinion without it being shouted down in such an unnecessarily hostile manner?

And such hypocrisy too.

Your first paragraph insult "Max, I think your attitude is tiresome and fucking boring" completely reversed when it applies to yourself apparently, if your closing diktat "...this facility is provided for Evertonians to share their opinions on the game, the players, the manager, the club ? not as an avenue for abusive denigration of others' opinions" is to be believed.

Or are you exempt from practicing what you preach?

Personally, I think Osman is nothing more than a (sometimes overused) squad player, in the mode of Harper or Richardson.

Such nasty, uncalled-for aggression so undermines and devalues this wonderful site.

It also tempts others to follow suit, already threatening to de-rail this well-intentioned thread and turning dozens of its predecessors into completely off-topic slanging matches.

When we're woeful, then get the hatchet out, but credit where credit's due today - especially as Osman had his best game for as long as I can remember?
Brian Williams
31   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:02:58

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Well Michael and Max...... who's right?

As Harry Hill would say,

"There's only one way to find out"

FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!
Ryan Holroyd
32   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:07:17

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I think David Booth is spot on where he says

Personally, I think Osman is nothing more than a (sometimes overused) squad player, in the mode of Harper or Richardson.

If we had loads of money he wouldn't be in the side but hey we are skint so we have to make do with what we have.

Anyway I doubt Osman gives a flying fuck what I, David or MK thinks.

It's a website to give opinions on.
John Ford
33   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:06:10

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Pleased for Beckford today and as mentioned he looked like he is running into the right areas, thinking in the right way and created space for Saha...anyone notice how poor the Sunderland centre halves were? Have to say though Beckford has the first touch of a dragon.
Guy Hastings
34   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:14:55

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Peter #18 It was 'Juantorena opens his legs and shows his class.' And Coleman claimed it was Ron Pickering's line anyway.
Gerry Morrison
35   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:16:33

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Didn't see the game today. (Not on the telly here in Sunny California.) So I am relying on reports.
The BBC uses words like "majestic" and "breathtaking", while Toffeeweb has "businesslike" and "solid". Maybe one report was written by an Evertonian and that explains the bias.
Andy Crooks
36   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:26:27

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Beckford and Saha up front, at last David Moyes gets it. Late as usual. If this man could learn from his mistakes he could be a decent coach.
Kevin Hudson
37   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:27:14

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Much needed three points,and delighted with the clean sheet. Also pleased to see Beckford continue to stick it to those who wrote him off in pre-season.

Roll on Reading.
Gavin Ramejkis
38   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:38:44

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If you guys want to whinge ask yourself did the twat at the BBC Captions have this written before the result?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9408231.stm
Martin Mason
39   Posted 26/02/2011 at 18:58:39

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I didn't see today's game at all because I was travelling but just one game at a time and we are doing well. This was a good win where a loss would have been possible. I've read several independent reports now and Osman had good words from all.

Michael is correct, everybody has the right to state an opinion but we must remember that opinions aren't necessarily correct; that isn't aimed at Michael btw just a general observation on opinions. Of course we shouldn't accept anything because we are "fans" but as fans we should be supportive where we can, perhaps see positives where they genuinely exist and there were apparently many today as there overwhelmingly were last week.

Again, as Evertonians let's just carpe diem, a great win and hopefully onward and upwards without a pot to piss in.
Shaun Sparke
40   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:23:57

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I have lost count the amount of times that I have walked away from Goodison shaking my head wondering how on earth Osman gets into out first eleven. However, I thought that he was actually quite good today and probably deserved the man of the match award.

He now needs to do this more consistently and against better teams than Sunderland. Credit where it is due though, its such a shame that some people are so entrenched in their deep held views that to admit anything to the contrary is seen as a blasphemous slur on their own unshakeable desire that they are never wrong.
Mike Green
41   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:42:11

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Jermaine Beckford

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Jermaine Beckford

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Jermaine Beckford

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Jermaine Beckford

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Jermaine Beckford

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Jermaine Beckford

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

(Repeat)



Michael Kenrick
42   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:50:57

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Just to clarify something for you, David Booth: evryone on here gets treated with respect until they cross the line. I draw a distinction between people providing a reasonable and civil opinion on what they have seen (whatever viewpoint they take), versus people like Max who only come on here to moan and diss and denigrate when others dare to have different opinion to them.

If he'd come on and said he thought Osman had had a fine game and left it at that, I would have no problem with that, but for him to use this facility to come out with shite like he did, about being tiresome and fucking boring.,.. well in that situation, I open up with both barrels. I always have and I always will: and it has absolutely nothing to do with either opinion being right or wrong about the player: it has everything to do with engaging in reasonable and civil post-match analysis.
Mark Jones
43   Posted 26/02/2011 at 20:14:01

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All that mattered today was getting the 3 points. It is great to be in 10th place. Now we can concentrate on the cup.

I think Distin was Man of the Match and is Our Player of the Season. Saha had a great first half but we sat back in the Second Half. Osman did play well but left Baines isolated in the first half against their Egyptian Winger.

Let' s all enjoy the Victory. Two weekends on the run now celebrating Everton wins.

Tony J Williams
44   Posted 26/02/2011 at 20:24:57

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"I draw a distinction between people providing a reasonable and civil opinion on what they have seen"

What part of "Max, I think your attitude is tiresome and fucking boring" is civil and reasonable?

And unless things have changed to Osman being a defensive midfielder, how is this right? "what appears to be a potentially attacking formation, but for the inclusion of Osman"
Peter Warren
45   Posted 26/02/2011 at 20:43:36

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Chill out, guys. Osman had a good game today, although missed an absolute sitter and is clearly not top drawer. However, he looked fit and energetic ? something he hasn't done for ages.

Also, credit (although bloody obvious!) for starting Saha and Beckford, especially at home. Beckford is a good player when he has another striker; if no-one up there, he's ineffective and should only be used as a sub. I would like to say Moyes had the shackles off and Arteta certainly was getting more forward and had one of his better games. However, i still thought Fellaini and then Rodwell were playing within themselves and are not permitted to get forward... don't know if anybody else thought that?
Andrew Gilbert
46   Posted 26/02/2011 at 20:49:28

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Michael(8) "So what are you saying, Max Main ? that he shouldn't have actually got one of those shots at least on target or in the net?"

Did you not see the one cleared off the line?
Michael Kenrick
47   Posted 26/02/2011 at 20:50:33

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I know you've had trouble with this distinction before, Tony: I'm reflecting back to Max the lack of civility that he has introduced to the thread. It's his attitude I have the problem with, not his opinion on Osman.

Yea, I thought I might be opening myself up with the last quote, which I wrote when I saw the team selection. I would have expected Bily or Cahill to have offered a greater attacking thrust rather than Osman, For fear of repeating myself, he had a better game than usual, but without really coming up with much end product.
Al Reddish
48   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:04:30

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..........apart from setting up the first goal and having a shot cleared off the line ay Michael.
Mike Green
49   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:24:30

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Leon Osman

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Leon Osman

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

(You know the rest....)
Mike Green
50   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:26:46

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C'mon people - cheer up!

I can sense a real run coming on for us!

All together now:

David Moyes

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Davey Moyes

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

(Repeat ad infinitum :D)
Dave Wilson
51   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:11:34

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Not sure why theres even a debate here, both points are true, Osman could have been more clinical, how can that be disputed ? He was also at the heart of just about anything remotely entertaining today. I`ll give him 7/8

Arteta slowly getting back to form, Rodwell back, Beckford scoring a brace, Louis seemingly unhurt, Moyes getting everyone on to keep them ticking over, a clean sheet. Not a bad days work guys.

The season may not be over after all.
Mike Green
52   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:30:53

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Spot on Dave Wilson - the voice of reason.
Gavin Ramejkis
53   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:29:45

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Has anyone heard anything about the injuries yet this evening?

DM on radio said

Cahill still not ready from his injury hence didn't start but seemed ok when he came on;
Fellaini's ankle injury maybe not sorted yet and was in two minds to play him and seemed to cause him lot of problems hence he went off;
Beckford pulled up with what looked like hamstring before he went off but he hadn't any news on what it was.
Dave Wilson
54   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:30:50

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I`ve been on the Jim Beam, Mike, what about you? Is it possible to have a virtual sing song ?

"Oh we hate Bill Shankly and we hate St John, but most of all we hate big Ron..."
Tony J Williams
55   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:34:20

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No problem with any distinction at all Michael. There was nothing civil about your response at all. No amount of flim flam can change that.
Larry Boner
56   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:18:31

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The way I have always rated players is, if they did not play for Everton, would I want Everton to sign them.

Try it, start with the letter A,

Anichebe, do I want Everton to sign him?
Baines, etc.
Mike Green
57   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:35:36

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"And we'll hang them all one by one - on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey....!"

Me - G&T, couple of Bitburgers, few white waines, now of Shiraz!

"Follow, follow, follow...."

Thank God someones got a sense of humour!

Have a good one Dave.
Mike Green
58   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:47:49

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Larry - thats a great point. Thought for the day even!

To an extent in my experience if you hate an opposition player you'd generally like them if they played for your team too.

Am I the only person trying to keep this thread alive.....?!
Gavin Ramejkis
59   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:58:06

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Must be all the shandies Mike, we should all be happy of the three points and not give a rat's arse who scored or if it went in off their foot, head or backside. Goals are goals, we kept a clean sheet and have moved up the table, not often we've had an evening this season able to say that.
John Daley
60   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:13:07

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Osman put in a decent shift today, was busy and tried to create when he could. He wasn't spectacular but efficient.

I also agree with Michael K that it is getting increasingly common and tiresome for people to come on here denigrating the perfectly valid but critical views of fellow Evertonians. People constantly preach about it being an 'overly negative' site and come out with utter bollocks equating disillusioned contributors as being akin to a 'lynch mob' or being fickle if they don't cream over every half-decent display. They talk about 'Moyes bashers' and attempt to take the moral high ground by positioning themselves as the 'better' supporter because of their more positive, optimistic outlook. Sorry, but I'm a pessimistic, cynical twat when it comes to all things relating to Everton (and I make a pathetic attempt to shield myself from disappointment by automatically expecting things to go tits up at any given moment). I'll give praise where it is due, as I think most people on here will, but by the same token I reserve the right to dish out criticism if I think it is called for.

Anyway, I enjoyed the first half but in the second half I embarrassingly kept falling asleep in my seat like fucking Grandpa Simpson. Never done that before and I've seen much poorer games than the one I witnessed today. So now I'm a negative git with narcolepsy as well.
Kevin Hudson
61   Posted 26/02/2011 at 21:45:41

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Dave Wilson (and Jimmy B) have it spot on: Osman plays-Everton win-Osman contributes-ToffeeWebbers needlessly tee-off on each other..

I really don't get why Osman in particular, is such a magnet for the Boo-Boys. Yes he's largely unremarkable, but watched closely he is a shrewd player who tries.

I could name half a dozen Everton players who've regularly stunk the gaff out. And failed to break a sweat.

(Toasts Mike Green & Dave Wilson with a glass of Kingstone Cider..)

"Fuck off to Norway, the city's all ours."
Mike Green
62   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:07:11

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Jesus Christ ? this stuff's good, even Gavin's talking sense!

Mind you ? soon it's going to be whiskey and the whole shithouse might go up in flames....!

Couldn't agree more though Gavin. I don't care if Beckford's goals were jammy, a goal's a goal and it'll give the boy confidence. If we can give him that he'll repay us with much much more.

We're 10th. And climbing.

COME ON!!!!!
Tony J Williams
63   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:13:12

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John, it's also common for people to slag off a player, like today, even when we have won. It goes both ways too, people have views and others will disagree with them. Why is it that some sides views seems to get the green light but other sides don't? Or get lambasted for not being on the same wavelength as others?

I am with you 100% with the second half comment, my mate nudged me a few times because he thought I had drifted off too.
Dave Wilson
64   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:11:49

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Tried Jim Beam or white waine John?
Gavin Ramejkis
65   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:25:00

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Well it was Vodka Redbull but the Redbull has gone pop so it's a 75th min substitution of Orange Juice and it's going down fast.
Mike Green
66   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:28:00

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Or maybe MDMA?

"All together now.... all together now...."
Mike Green
67   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:33:41

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On a serious note.

Should I mix grape and the grain?

And you should be careful Gavin with that Vitamin C, plays havoc with my system.

Of less importance - this thread is struggling to reach the 100 mark, limping along with the help of a group of dipso's.

If we'd lost 2-0 today we'd be on 163.

Why is that?
Gavin Ramejkis
68   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:37:17

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Oh come on Mike we all know it would be Hibbert's fault
Mike Green
69   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:37:20

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ALSO - bet of the weekend!

West Ham are 7/2 to beat LFC at home tomorrow - Get On IT!
Gavin Ramejkis
70   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:39:27

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Hmmm Robbie Keane for the winner?
Jamie Tulacz
71   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:37:03

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Gavin- sounds like the usual late substitution which was too late to make any difference... With the Orange Juice representing Leon Osman...
Mike Green
72   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:43:30

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Now you're talking Gavin.

That's why you get the big money, I'd not even seen that!

I wonder what Keane last goal / West Ham win is paying...?

Oooops, sorry, this is an Everton web site isnt it.

£10 says Hibbo scores against Reading!
Jamie Tulacz
73   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:52:12

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On a slightly off the point note, think we should take a look at Matt Jarvis of Wolves to fill the left-hand side position. Always impressed whenever I watch him, and imagine he'd be relatively cheap.

We'd obviously need to sell, but can see a few being flogged in the summer anyway.
Lee Smith
74   Posted 26/02/2011 at 22:51:04

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Kieran #4. I'm currently watching the highlights on Football First, it is the Horne commentary. You weren't exaggerating were you mate! Fuck me, he was wanking over the smallest thing he done! It's quite ridiculous!

My dad (an Osman fan, bless him) was watching it with me, and he knows I don't rate him at all, and even he was pissing himself laughing! Believe me, I want the lad to do well, and earn such lavish praise, but he wasn't even doing much and it was embarrassing listen to Horne carry on like a star-struck kid!

David Thomas
75   Posted 26/02/2011 at 23:09:34

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Osman played well today. End of. Anyone criticising him is just doing it for the sake of it.
Mike Green
76   Posted 26/02/2011 at 23:22:22

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For my sins I listened to the game on Everton TV and have just seen the highlights on MotD.

FFS!!! What's wrong with Beckfords goals?!?!

His movement to get on the end of Arteta's cut back is fantastic. And then... oh, bollocks.... he knobbles it down into the bottom corner.

I said it when we sigend him and I'll say it again (Ciaran McGlone are you out there?): Give this boy his opportunity and he will score us GOALS ? what more do you want from a striker? Hand relief?

Balveniee Double Wood ? wha-hoo!!!!
Paul Conatzer
77   Posted 26/02/2011 at 23:18:53

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Over here in Texas, I woke up about 30 minutes into the first half, I saw Beckford's second goal and thought it was very good play from Arteta and some clever movement from Beckford. Of course, the defender marking him was Titus Bramble and I'm sure my mum, who has a bad back, could lose Bramble on one of her good days. I don't want to say Everton were great, but I think each Everton player outplayed their opposite number.
Pete Gunby
78   Posted 26/02/2011 at 23:22:45

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Or because they don't rate him. End of.

Gerry (#35) The game was on Fox Soccer Plus live this morning.

Tony McNulty
79   Posted 26/02/2011 at 23:48:16

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To help get the thread to 100, what about the Van der Meyde retirement? As far as I'm aware, he retired about a week after he signed for Everton.

He did learn something from his stint with us though. When a journalist tried to quiz him this week, he didn't answer, apparently saying somehting along the lines of he was, 'bored with the question'.
Mike Green
80   Posted 26/02/2011 at 23:57:46

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Thank you Tony - a bit of commitment at last.

There are lots of questions to be asked of AVDM.

Most of which are answered with:

Because he's a cock.
Mike Green
81   Posted 27/02/2011 at 00:19:01

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I think that might officially be it on this thread - unless James Flynn and the American contingent want to pick up the slack.

It's been a decent thread though.

We've seen someone call the sub-editor fucking boring and tiresome. We've also seen the sub-editor - quite rightly respond with the same retorts.

We've been bonding. Agreement. And in phases ? satisfaction.

We are on a mini-roll, beat Reading on Tuesday and who knows we could be on a proper roll....

COYB!
David Hallwood
82   Posted 27/02/2011 at 00:28:27

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Michael's mardy missive mars matchday merriment
Andy Crooks
83   Posted 27/02/2011 at 00:27:25

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Mike Green, you are spot on about 7/2 West Ham. That is the bet of the season. Also, today Beckford looked like a scrappy goal striker. The last one we had was Lineker. I'm certainly not making comparisons but Beckford will get us goals.
Mike Green
84   Posted 27/02/2011 at 00:34:58

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Thank you Andy Crooks - if that's not value for money, nothing is! I've also told a Hammer I'll give him the stake (£20) to his charity (Oliver Curd Trust) when it comes in and I'll keep the winnings.

He thinks I'm crackers. At 7/2, it's the bet of the season!
Mike Green
85   Posted 27/02/2011 at 00:43:32

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Also well said about Beckford.

Ciaron McGlone's anonymous these days on these pages nowadays. I genuinely hope he's OK but Ciaron ? He was never brought in to be our 4th-choice striker.

Apologies if you're not well.
Mike Green
86   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:01:51

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OK - I'll do it. 86.
Mike Green
87   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:03:17

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87 - a great year.
Mike Green
88   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:05:56

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88 - to the Chinese the ultimate in luck, double bubble.
Mike Green
89   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:09:25

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89 - my summer
Mike Green
90   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:11:00

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90 - Spike Island
Andy Crooks
91   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:11:28

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Mike, first thing in the morning have a bottle of Stella(it must be stella). Then have a bacon sandwich, then two paracetamol, then one omeprazole. You will thank me for this.
Mike Green
92   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:11:59

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91 - Kendal Mk 2
Mike Green
93   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:16:01

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Andy - you've fucked up my timings with your hangover cure FFS!!!! You've cost me a year! I'm with you all the way until omezaprole? What the fucks that?
Mike Green
94   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:22:17

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94 - the start of our FA Cup campaign...
Mike Green
95   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:23:32

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95!!!!!!!!! FA CUP WINNERS!!!!!!!!
Mike Green
96   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:26:10

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96 - like Pisces
Mike Green
97   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:27:13

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97 - beautiful numbers
Mike Green
98   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:29:26

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98 - it is what it is.
Mike Green
99   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:30:49

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99 - Got married to the greatest girl in the world
Mike Green
100   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:32:09

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100!!!!!! Divorce cost me £100!!

COYB!
Tom Bowers
101   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:34:46

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Another welcome 3 points. However,there were times during the game when Everton were all at sea and only some poor work by Sunderland spared our blushes.

Obviously Everton had their moments but the finishing was woeful, especially Osman, who could have and should have had a hat-trick. Everton were not terribly convincing against a poor Sunderland outfit despite some good performances from Distin, Jags, Osman, Arteta, Howard and Saha. Still it's a much needed boost at the right time.

Mike Green
102   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:35:36

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Jesus Tom - where were you an hour ago..?
Michael Kenrick
103   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:37:37

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Go to bed now, Mr Green, before you upset the Editor with all this nonsense.
Michael Kenrick
104   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:38:24

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He's part of the "Up all night" American contingent, I believe.
Michael Kenrick
105   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:39:29

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What did you make of Dave Wilson's #64?

Is "waine" a typo?

Or is White Waine the new Great White Hope?

Or can't we say that anymore???
Mike Green
106   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:41:31

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It is nonsense, you're right. Do you think I'll upset Lyndon with it? If so I'll go to bed on your advice.
Mike Green
107   Posted 27/02/2011 at 01:45:44

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Waine isnt a typo - I called it waine, as in "white waine" - looks like its me and you chatting for a while now Mikey Boy!
Michael Kenrick
108   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:02:23

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Sorry, I was editing some old files and the bloody prog crashed...

I prefer red myself.... waine that is... not the Always Blue one tho.
Michael Kenrick
109   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:04:55

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Oh, you're right... how did I miss #57?



Michael Kenrick
110   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:07:10

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Talking of waine... I haven't seen the elbow yet: accidental or deliberate?

Two things that annoy me in football are screams for flailing elbows and screams for ball-to-hand penalties in the area.
Mike Green
111   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:06:10

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red will always do well, Waine wise, But proper white Burgundy's - shit the bed nothing touches them. I'm sure my missus has hidden soime sausage rolls around here.... or am I becoming fucking tiresome and boring? Yes. I guess I am!
Michael Kenrick
112   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:10:53

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You've gone to bed haven't you? Left me here talking to myself, like a right cock... No wait! Wrong again!
Mike Green
113   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:11:10

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Michael - it was disgrace. Off the ball, Rooney's behind McCarthy making a run past him and bows him big time straight on the lug as he goes by, evn gave a little skip to get up I think.

To McCarthys credit he just walked around holding his ear but a lesser player wouldve folded like no ones business.

Rooneys a cunt.
Mike Green
114   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:19:08

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Right - it's 2.21am here now - I'm goignto open another beer but you better up the ante Michael.
Michael Kenrick
115   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:21:19

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Oh... that sounds bad. But I'm conflicted. I have a soft spot for our Waine... he can do no wrong in my eyes. Even the odd grannie...

Once a Blue...
Mike Green
116   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:22:37

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Ive just found some Hula-Hoops!!!!
Michael Kenrick
117   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:26:37

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Nice piece of Cheddar and some Carr's crackers to go with my Cab Sav.

Here's a Quiz Q: (No conferring) When did we last win the Reserves League?
Gerry Morrison
118   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:25:36

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Pete (78) Missed it. I never signed up for soccer plus because I figured we would never be on. Have to re-think that.
Mike Green
119   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:24:54

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I know what you're saying. When I used to see him playing for us it was like watching a mini-God, watching everything the game was all about - what Everton Football Club were - he was the imbodiment of everything I believed football should be. He was the most original player I'd ever seen - get the ball, turn, run at goal, Shoot.

He's still brilliant, good luck to him. Nothing to do with us anymore though and todays challenge summed it up for me..
Mike Green
120   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:33:23

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We last won the Reserves League in '84.
Michael Kenrick
121   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:33:07

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Okay, well I'll take that on advisement. He's still a Blue (sez he)...

Talking of which, couldn't believe my ears last week listening to Mike Parry on 5Live and his FA Cup nonsense.

Surprised no-one put in a thread about all that seeding crap.
Mike Green
122   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:35:40

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Right - I've just opened one last beer - a 330ml Bitburger, then I'm going to bed. You've got about 20 mins.
Michael Kenrick
123   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:36:54

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Oh dear... 2001.

You have gone way down in my estimation, fella. Maybe it's our fault... we shoulda got out the tinsel and had a big party on here... but it says that Premier League season was dire.
Mike Green
124   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:37:43

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Shit the bed! I was listening to it with Our Kid thinking it was a piss take then read that SAF was behind it blah blah blah.

Fucking Outrageus. Might as well say in August - "This season the Football Association Cup will me won by...... Chelsea (or Man Utd.. maybe Arsenal at a push)

Mindblowing.
Michael Kenrick
125   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:42:42

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Talk about total fucking crap! I was ashamed when he said he was an Evertonian.
Mike Green
126   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:47:15

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I was ashamed when you said you were!

:D
Michael Kenrick
127   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:47:52

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You're doing porn, aren't you? I can tell by the space between messages....

This is just a distraction, so you can point to it when the old lady comes down to check on you!

"Oh nothing, love... just crapping on with this wanker about footy shite"

You dirty old man!
Mike Green
128   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:51:38

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Thats almost right - the missus is here going "Put some porn on, put some porn on" and I'm giving it "FFS" and coming back when I can.

Predictions for the season then - League finsh and Cup finish.
Mike Green
129   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:59:53

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3am here now - beer finshed, off to bed. Good chat,

COME ON YOU BLUES.
Michael Kenrick
130   Posted 27/02/2011 at 02:59:40

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I don't do this... but:

14th & semi-final defeat to Arsenal
Michael Kenrick
131   Posted 27/02/2011 at 03:01:28

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Nighty night!
Mike Green
132   Posted 27/02/2011 at 03:01:31

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8th and 6th Round defeat to Man Cirty
Mike Green
133   Posted 27/02/2011 at 03:03:15

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No - 6th round defeat to Villa. That horrible cunt Ashley Young'll put us out.
Mike Green
134   Posted 27/02/2011 at 03:05:30

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Right - I am definitely off to bed now. Thanks for the chat Michael - might have served to prove I'm not quite the twat you thought I was. I'd love to say the same,,,,!

Good Night

COYB
Tony McNulty
135   Posted 27/02/2011 at 07:19:10

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Did the two of you get a room?
Steven Jones
136   Posted 26/02/2011 at 19:07:26

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One thing I do know is that Pienaar was industrious; however, he rarely beat a man, rarely got wide into positions to cross and often spurned chances to shoot chewing the ball and slowing attacks down. On top of that, when he was in a good position, could not hit a barn door with a shovel.

In these terms, Osman and Bily are far superior.

Osman is always looking to accelerate an attack and move forward.

In these terms his ball for the first goal was the difference between Steven Pienaar and our 2-0 win yesterday.
Jon Cox
137   Posted 27/02/2011 at 09:59:59

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Michael, (127) you know what they say; "Takes one to know one" Ha ha.
Aidan Ross
138   Posted 27/02/2011 at 12:23:42

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The earlier posts on the theme of bourbon or wine(?) have led me to ponder the realtive quality of our midfield in the context of bourbon brands. Ergo, Fellaini=Makers Mark, Arteta(on form)= Jack Daniels Special Reserve . Bily=Wild Turkey and Ossie = Jim Beam. Any thoughts? Jack is not aged oak yet, he's still being filtered, so we don't know if he's going to be a supermarket own brand or a quality brand.
COYB FTRS KAG
Gavin Ramejkis
139   Posted 27/02/2011 at 15:29:33

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Mike might have a sore head this morning but if he backed West Ham he'll be smiling all the way to the bookies ? they've just twatted the RS 3-1
Mike Green
140   Posted 27/02/2011 at 18:15:26

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You better believe it Gavin - £200 up on the weekend, brilliant. Did I enjoy that game at Upton Park or what, great entertainment. As was the Carling Cup final just now - hilarious!

Why cant every weekend be like this?
Roman Sidey
141   Posted 27/02/2011 at 22:45:02

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Late arrival from the "up all night American contingent" (although I'm Australian living in the New World).

Gavin, not sure if you were being facitious, but most sports journos do write their match reports either during the game, or create a skeleton article before the match, and fill in the nouns and verbs as they see fit after the match.

My opinion, Osman is shite, but has the occasional decent game. Today was so so. His misses have always been deplorably worse than others' and his weave around the 'keeper today was an inexcusable miss. I honestly think it would be harder to hit the player on the line if you aimed for him. For me, his main problem isn't a lack of talent, but at thinking he is better than he is. He constantly tries Messi-like moves, usually culminating in a massive fuck up. For all his efforts, his shots have no venom, he shoots when he should pass, he dribbles when he should shoot/pass, and it's player like him that are keeping Everton in the "smaller club" bracket.

This win was what Everton needed. Teams like Sunderland should not be above us, or even bothering us on the pitch. Would I change anything about this game if I could? We are still a team of two halves ? something that needs to be rectified if we want to keep climbing the ladder.
James Flynn
142   Posted 28/02/2011 at 01:31:23

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142 - Kenrick and Green's hotel room number.
Dave Wilson
143   Posted 28/02/2011 at 06:31:37

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Roman

Inexcusable miss? Have another look mate he was still at an accute angle with TWO defenders on the line. he had to go over their heads to score.

Ossie's finishing could have been better but for the second week running he had a smashing game, on the occasion you speak about he was about 2 inches low from scoring one of the greatest individual goals seen at Goodison for decades.

Leon has made a career qualifying for Europe, maybe it's the new "superstars" who have yet to do that for us you need to be loooking at.
Roman Sidey
144   Posted 28/02/2011 at 11:26:22

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I still think he has an awful shot on him and can't pass consistently to save his life.
Tony J Williams
145   Posted 28/02/2011 at 13:16:59

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My mate was screaming for him to sqaure it to Tim. He had a tenner on Everton to win 3-0 and Tim to score the last goal. £670 quid missed out on.
Roman Sidey
146   Posted 01/03/2011 at 02:29:43

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That's exactly what he should have done though, Tony. This is what I was talking about. He went for an acute shot, not a hard one either, but the square to Tim probably was a better option. For years he has gone for glory instead of playing the option of assisting a team mate. His flying attempt at a sideways bicyles kick was no exception ? he could have layed it down.

I am so stoked though for Beckford. We all know he is a confidence striker, and a brace will work wonders for him.

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