It has been mentioned on another thread that Seamus Coleman should be loaned out to Blackpool for another season in order to gain premier experience. In my view this would be a disaster. Blackpool will be relegated with the lowest point score ever recorded and Coleman may have his confidence shattered.
I would have him in the Everton starting line-up but that is unlikely to happen. As an alternative I would loan him to a side who will be challenging for promotion from the Championship. Boro, for example. He will return to Everton full of confidence ready to take his place as potentially the best right back in the Premier League.
Andy Crooks, Posted 10/07/2010 at 23:56:03
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1 Posted 11/07/2010 at 02:15:21
2 Posted 11/07/2010 at 02:38:31
Coleman has shown promise, but we have to realise that the bulk of his senior experience has now been gained from his loan spell at Blackpool.
At 21 now, he's comparatively "late" into the scene at top flight football (Beckford is similar). It's probably more important these days than, say, 25 years ago.
Coleman lacks experience at any professional level ? you point out it's unlikely he'll get game time at Everton, but I think given a choice of a loan spell at a club struggling at the wrong end of the Premier League, or a club in mid / upper echelons of The Championship ? he'll learn more at the Prem club.
Also, don't Blackpool have a reputation of being a footballing side? I don't know what Strachan's Boro' side play like, but given financial constraints I imagine it's "variable". I think Blackpool would be a good loan move for him.
3 Posted 11/07/2010 at 07:07:27
I feel if Moyes still rates Neville and Hibbert ahead of him and is only likely to use him sparingly then loaning him out could only benefit, as he seemed to develop with each game for Blackpool. I would prefer to have a clause that he could return if we were to get injuries or to be reviewed in January if Moyes then believes he deserves a chance.
4 Posted 11/07/2010 at 07:51:13
5 Posted 11/07/2010 at 08:28:06
Does this gentlemen's agreement bollocks of not playing against your own team exist or just when it's a Man U player (a la Howard)? My mind could be swayed if I was to see Coleman dancing through the RS defence and scoring the winner at the Kop end.
6 Posted 11/07/2010 at 09:39:40
As for Coleman, get him out on loan again to get experience, I watched him for Blackpool a few times and his defending would be his weak link, get him on loan in the Prem and get up to speed against Malouda, Giggs, Young etc rather than a few journeymen wingers in the Championship.
7 Posted 11/07/2010 at 11:24:34
8 Posted 11/07/2010 at 12:39:31
9 Posted 11/07/2010 at 12:42:22
We hardly have the squad capable of loaning out our best youngsters out. There is a real problem in this country of not trusting youth. Look at the top sides at the World cup. Germany, Argentina etc All full of youth and energy. Then look at the England debacle.
10 Posted 11/07/2010 at 12:51:22
What kind of comment is that? I didn't really take to Neville at first but I've been won over in the past 2 seasons. For all his faults, he's an excellent leader and ambassador for our club. People are looking at that one Spurs game and think Coleman is an Irish Maicon. I hope he turns out to be but he's not there yet... not yet.
11 Posted 11/07/2010 at 13:08:37
12 Posted 11/07/2010 at 15:38:03
What a stupid, idiotic comment. You're actually hoping one of our players gets injured. David Moyes watches him every week in training and if he feels he is not ready yet to be a first team regular then I for one will trust his judgement.
13 Posted 11/07/2010 at 17:40:43
I think he has shown enough as a young player to be given a run in the team at the start of the season. If it turns out he isn't ready then we take him out the starting eleven until he is ready, giving Hibbert or Neville a run.
14 Posted 11/07/2010 at 18:08:45
Colin Raj inadvertently summed it up in Post 10: "for all his faults". Yes, he has A LOT of faults and looks desperately out of place at Premier League level.
Hibbert is our strongest right-back in terms of simply being solid. Coleman has a long, long way to go before justifying the cult hero tag he has amongst some of our fans.
15 Posted 11/07/2010 at 18:04:54
The 'Howard business' was, as Danny says, different because he had already signed permanently. There seemed to be a, ahem, 'unspoken agreement' between Moyes and SAF, which of course incurred the wrath of the Premier League as it involved a third party.
16 Posted 11/07/2010 at 18:46:29
This obsession with 'experience' instead of being adventurous and giving youngsters a chance to let their enthusiasm express itself is so frustrating.
Having been offered a new deal and Neville and Hibbert as his only rivals I really hope he'll become a vital part of our plans for next year.
He's clearly got something a bit special and we need to know if he can sustain that promise, or if it was just a flash in the pan.
If I picked the team, he'd be in and I'd be thrilled if he started our first game at Blackburn and we really went for it next season.
17 Posted 11/07/2010 at 19:36:31
18 Posted 11/07/2010 at 22:43:16
19 Posted 11/07/2010 at 23:20:42
20 Posted 12/07/2010 at 01:06:56
I wouldn't argue with that at all and in an age when most are complete mercenaries his attitude and commitment are to be applauded. However as a footballer he is piss poor. Hibbert is better in every way. So will Coleman be. As for Neville being a great leader, well I am sorry I don't see that either. The Benfica game sticks in the memory. That game was crying out for leadership and he was silent as a mouse. If Everton are to progress to be a top 4 club you can't give a first team place away purely on sentiment. Neville does not deserve a place on ability so it would be better if he were injured/benched.
I remember groaning when he signed for us and I have pretty much groaned every game he has played since, when yet again he fails to make that 5-yard pass.
21 Posted 12/07/2010 at 10:34:22
Hibbert looked like the solid defender yet lacking going forward full-back we know and Moyes loves Neville for some reason. Neville would be just as effective shouting orders and leading from bench (no longer good enough to have a regular spot in the side).
22 Posted 12/07/2010 at 12:48:14
23 Posted 12/07/2010 at 14:11:13
24 Posted 12/07/2010 at 17:34:35
Yeah and you more than likely will be on here moaning if Coleman does start as first choice and gets exposed in games because at this moment in time his defending is not his best attribute.
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