So Jeffers moves on again. Has ever a player's career on down the drain as badly after leaving Everton?
In fact, with hindsight I think it's the best bit of business ever done by an Everton manager. I can't believe that I was actually angry when he was sold. Arsene Wenger was well and truly mugged.
Andy Crooks, Posted 20/07/2010 at 10:15:01
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1 Posted 20/07/2010 at 14:50:46
I was speaking to a guy I work with who was one of the sponsors at Sheff Wed and he went for a meal with Jeffers who was quite frank in saying that he no longer enjoyed the game. Very odd.
2 Posted 20/07/2010 at 14:59:28
3 Posted 20/07/2010 at 15:42:21
Other than Rooney, has anyone recently moved from Everton to greener grass? Materazzi maybe but he didn't really have an impact for us in the first place.
4 Posted 20/07/2010 at 15:53:33
5 Posted 20/07/2010 at 15:57:02
On a side note, I see on SSN earlier that Gosling is close to signing for Newcastle. I take it our appeal for a transfer fee/compensation either failed or never took place.
6 Posted 20/07/2010 at 16:08:03
Re. your side note if we haven?t appealed I suspect it?s because the lawyers told us we didn?t have a leg to stand on.
When you consider how hard-up we appear to be, that is some royal fuck-up.
7 Posted 20/07/2010 at 16:09:59
8 Posted 20/07/2010 at 16:15:28
Result for us. Wenger mugged.
9 Posted 20/07/2010 at 16:14:21
10 Posted 20/07/2010 at 16:23:04
11 Posted 20/07/2010 at 16:31:51
Stan, on your side note, I don't think anything's decided, and there was one report that said Newcastle were the only club willing to sign Gosling knowing they may have to pay £4M. As far as I know there's still technically a chance we'll get the money, but personally speaking I'd say the chances were less than 10%.
12 Posted 20/07/2010 at 16:57:28
He should have been great. He should have been at the World Cup this year. He had something about him, but when he returned 2 years later he had evidently lost that something.
Injuries played their part, as did I'm sure the London nightlife and probably (speculation on my part) use of cocaine and other such drugs. But it shows how important it is for a player at 20/21 years of age to be playing regularly.
I'm sure he would have made a lot more money if he stayed with us.
On the sidenote: i'm sure this has been discussed quite enough already.
13 Posted 20/07/2010 at 17:34:09
Jeffers believed his own hype and wanted out and it was the worst decision he ever made, hope it goes badly wrong for him, Prick
14 Posted 20/07/2010 at 17:41:24
Totally agree with Dan (post 10), Wright was a terrible terrible signing.
15 Posted 20/07/2010 at 18:07:28
16 Posted 20/07/2010 at 18:26:32
17 Posted 20/07/2010 at 18:31:37
Those reflecting that he was rubbish are blind. He scored goals, some of them brilliant, and had a good footballing brain. He even scored on his one & only England start.
Thing is, his lack of enjoyment shows in his play. He should pack it in and do something else. Drawing a salary of that size for something you really don't want to do is pointless.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. When he went, almost every Evertonian was upset about it. He seemed to go for the right reasons because he turned down Newcastle before Arsenal came in for him. But it's all history. He's somebody else's player now.
18 Posted 20/07/2010 at 18:32:26
We got £8 million, they got £3 m. So we were up; although I'm not including that Stephen Hughes. S'ppose it all evens out.
But I still think it a great shame the Jeffers implosion. He's way richer than me, and I should not feel sorry for the wanker, but a real waste. At one point, he and Campbell were the hottest combo in the Prem: our one real bright spot. That was why so many of us felt let down when he went.
A lesson to a player, even if it's worth moving to a club that is challenging, it is worth getting the timing right. Other wastes, though not so evident for me include SWP at City, always goes to the money and warms the bench. He has gone backwards, and is not good enough for England. Amazed he went to SA.
Here's hoping we are challenging properly by the time Rodwell thinks it's time.
19 Posted 20/07/2010 at 18:35:10
20 Posted 20/07/2010 at 18:19:43
21 Posted 20/07/2010 at 19:13:03
Goes to show from a player's perspective you have a right and wrong time to move. He moved early and made millions out of it ? but could have been a massive massive star. He also says Everton helped push him out, which I can believe.
I also guess physically he wasn't up to it either.
22 Posted 20/07/2010 at 19:01:16
Franny is not the arrogant twat that another poster has pointed out so eloquently (somebody who obviously knows him and his family very well); he was deeply upset at leaving Everton and never really recovered from it.
Regarding his reasons for leaving. Well, firstly.,Everton did make a fortune off him... and, secondly, all was not right behind the scenes with regards to the Manager and trainer. Their training ground technique left a lot to be desired and Franny was at loggerheads with them both.
Then there is the fact that the club was in financial dire straits, certain bonuses were not being paid, and this fact ? coupled with a distinct lack of an arm around the shoulder ? left Franny feeling disenchanted.
He genuinely loved EFC, this I know to be a fact. However, I kind of agree with another poster who said that he should pack the game in; he offers no value for money to the fans he plays in front of but anyone else, especially knobs who say we should boo him on his return to Goodison, should think about holding your tongue unless you know the facts.....
Which now you do.
23 Posted 20/07/2010 at 19:42:25
24 Posted 20/07/2010 at 19:34:11
Here are 2 of the more bizarre quotes today:
Joey Barton - "I think that on form, I'm as good as anybody in this country." ? No further comment needed.
Woy the Wed (on Gerrard's apparent pledge to stay) ? "It's a great piece of news. There won't be anyone in Liverpool today who isn't delighted to hear that."
YES THERE WILL, WOY! Don't tell me we are going to have to explain to this mecca of football knowledge that there are TWO clubs in the city, one of which is the bastard offspring of the other...
25 Posted 20/07/2010 at 20:10:05
My Brother and I went to the pub after and the scrote beat us in there, he was swigging alcopops back like there was no tomorrow.
26 Posted 20/07/2010 at 20:08:39
I can see a clash of personalities brewing.
27 Posted 20/07/2010 at 20:17:43
A final attempt to stick the knife in perhaps?
28 Posted 20/07/2010 at 20:53:36
I remember that Charlton Match on MotD (April 1999) and Hansen was in raptures about him. Yes, he was Michael Branch with a football brain and that was what excited me about Jeffers. He could play and he knew what to do. So many others could run and kick but had no idea where to be. For Jeffers, it was natural.
Amazingly he started only 16 matches the next season, 10 the year after and then he was off. Injuries if I remember. So 9 seasons later, he has probably earnt around £15m at least. So a wasted talent has only earnt £15m....Over a 40-year working life, that is £375,000 per year. OK so anyone on here done that? Thought not.
29 Posted 20/07/2010 at 21:01:38
Remember being impressed (in a way) that he got to the pub before me and my mates. The only quality on show that freezing cold day came from Messrs Rooney & Saha.... might have been a cup game we lost 2-1?
Anyway, Jeffers had his chance to make amends for us and sadly he bleeeeew it.
30 Posted 20/07/2010 at 21:35:09
Wasn't he also one of the main reasons we stayed up at that really low ebb? Like one of those butterflies that lives the beautiful life for just a few days.
31 Posted 20/07/2010 at 21:34:10
Francis Jeffers (1997-2001 & 03-04 Loan)
4.5 years at Everton
Goals scored 22.
James Vaughan (2004-10)
6 years at Everton so far.
Goals scored 9.
Victor Anichebe (2005-10)
5 years at Everton so far.
Goals scored 12.
Will either Vaughan or Anichebe ever reach the 20 goals for Everton mark? It looks like it might take them 10 years to do it.
Plus Jeffers broke goal scoring records for England U21 and scored on his debut for the full England side.
Jeffers may be rubbish now but he had more promise then either Vaughan or Anichebe.
If you're all saying Jeffers was rubbish what does that make Anichebe and Vaughan?
32 Posted 20/07/2010 at 21:54:45
33 Posted 20/07/2010 at 22:01:36
Perhaps more than his goals, the one thing I remember best about him was the handbags with Westerveld in the Anfield derby in 99. Back then, that incident made quite an impression on a young Evertonian.
34 Posted 20/07/2010 at 23:09:26
Ah, what a sweet memory when little Jug Ears and KC combined for the single goal.
35 Posted 20/07/2010 at 23:59:07
36 Posted 21/07/2010 at 02:16:03
37 Posted 21/07/2010 at 15:26:09
Not being a season ticket holder, I had to sit with the Fulham fans which appeared to be mostly made up of tourists!
It was the days when the players used to have mass brawls on the pitch and we'd get fined all the time!
38 Posted 23/07/2010 at 13:34:43
Yet the media constantly tell me that Wenger is a genius?
39 Posted 27/07/2010 at 11:11:21
I don't think he was really given a fair crack of the whip at Arsenal and his time was also plagued by injuries. I do remember when he returned to us on loan that his play was unrecognisable, already a shadow of his former self.
I have a friend who is a Sheffield Wednesday fan who says that at times he was excellent for them, but again plagued by injuries and very inconsistent.
Certainly Arsenal was a bad move for him and stunted his growth, just the same as happened to Upson and a few other young English players that have gone there chasing glory only to find themselves warming the bench for years.
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