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Tonight, Sky Sports News are reporting that Roberto Mancini is trying to sign Landon Donovan.

Will this force David Moyes to show his hand or can we simply not afford him? Either way, bloody Citeh trying to create a like-for-like Everton FC.
Dave Southon, Brighton     Posted 21/07/2010 at 20:51:31

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Lyndon Lloyd
1   Posted 21/07/2010 at 21:39:37

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Moyes has shown over the last few transfer windows that he's fairly true to his word that when he says the spending is over, it usually is ? with the caveat this time being the uncertainty over Pienaar and Arteta.

In that sense, he's probably shown his own hand... and we already know that we don't really have a pot to piss in after wages have been paid.
Nathan Ward
2   Posted 21/07/2010 at 21:44:40

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Sadly if City are in for him, that will be the last chance we will have of getting him back at Goodison.

Does however raise the question why didn't Sheik what's-his-face simply buy us in the first place instead of getting their stadium and then going after our team.....
Alan Clarke
3   Posted 21/07/2010 at 21:33:39

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I think if Moyes had any money, Donovan would be his first signing. If Everton aren't going to bid for him, then why wouldn't he sign for City?

The fact we can't find any money from anywhere this summer shows what a shambles our club is financially. We've not even managed to find enough money to keep our 2 best players tied down.

Kenwright has survived purely because a lot of other clubs have fallen on their arse, not by his own good management. The cock-up with Gosling demonstrates how inept Everton's management are and Moyes will be left to paper over Kenwright's cracks once again.

Kevin Hudson
4   Posted 21/07/2010 at 21:45:57

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If this is true, then I can only assume City are looking at it from a marketing perspective. Can't see how they would actually need Donovan, other than to economically crack North America, and add to their reputation as the new "Galacticos."

Isn't David Silva a right winger?
Mike Oates
5   Posted 21/07/2010 at 22:12:56

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Moyes is an intelligent guy and to me he uses this "lack of monies" cry to the press as way of pressurising Kenwright & Co to find the cash. He knows that he is playing on a very fine line with this line of attack, particularly the message it might be giving to the players who are thinking of leaving ? "Why stay? We haven't got a penny to improve salaries or get quality players in..." He has countered this his quote "Best ever Squad I've had".

The reason he has had another go at Kenwright is that he's still at least two good players short for this season ? centre-half and left-back. I'm sure he would also want Donovan back but I suspect he's not a priority over the defenders. The problem for Moyes & Kenwright is that Donovan was such a success both on and off the pitch and he himself nailed his colours to Everton and the fans and none of us want to see Moneybags City pinching him from under our noses.
David Hallwood
6   Posted 21/07/2010 at 22:25:29

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Good point, Kevin (#4), let's hope that it'll force DM's hand and he goes down Bill's pockets and finds the cheque book.

But it's beginning to look like all the Premier League is skint apart from Citteh, with Ferguson stating that he's happy with his squad, and Woy so far only getting in a freebie (albeit a great feebie).

James Flynn
7   Posted 21/07/2010 at 22:18:04

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Yet again? Ugh.

Christine and Gents,< LD's going where LD says he's going. This means staying at Galaxy or changing into his new home uniform at Goodison.
Neil Patten
8   Posted 21/07/2010 at 22:29:20

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City will probably want Donovan to capitalise on the marketing exposure that he would offer as much as anything. For them he would probably pay his own way regardless of team appearances.

Unfortunately Everton (the business) are still operated like a local corner shop rather than a Worldwide recognised brand and have still to capitalise on the merchandising opportunities offered up by Cahill, Pienaar, Lie Tie, Yobo, Yak, Bily, etc, etc. All captains or influential players of their respective countries.

Until something massively changes in the running of our club (I don't advocate becoming a Utd or City as they are everything that is wrong with our game in certain respects but we are not competing with them from a marketing perspective) then we will not be able to afford the signings that we want.

We really need a worldwide business player like Sir Terry Leahy or similar to take us to the next level as much as the longed for "investor" that everyone continues to cry out for. I would be interested to see what his "advisor" role to the current Board actually involves.
Trevor Lynes
9   Posted 21/07/2010 at 22:38:52

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If city sign Donovan, he will spend most of his time there bench-warming!! It's easy money!! They seem to be interested in virtually every player of any worth. Perhaps its a good way of stopping other teams from competing... buy anyone who can play, so they cannot play for their rivals.

We will end up as scavengers scrapping over the left overs with the 'lowerarchy'.

John McLoughlin
10   Posted 21/07/2010 at 22:54:02

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I read a link via Twitter to an American journalist and he says it's untrue, City are not interested in Donovan; it's just an exercise in PR. City, on tour in the States, when asked, are hardly going to say, "Sorry, all the players in your country are not good enough for us."
Dermot Ryan
11   Posted 21/07/2010 at 23:04:38

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James: I hope you won't have to eat your words.

In all this depressing transfer news, I've been wondering about Evertonians' responses to future bad news:

1. If Arteta goes, will he get as much stick as Peanuts got when there was only speculation about him moving. Arteta seems to have a charmed life with fans, but if he walks after us paying his medical bills, I think that would be a bit rich.
2. If Landon goes to City, what kind of reception will he get at Goodison?
Brendan O'Doherty
12   Posted 21/07/2010 at 23:00:50

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A month ago, SSN 'understood' that David Moyes was in talks with Martin Petrov with a view to signing him. This was apparently while he was at the World Cup, doing his media work.

Apparently they 'understood' yesterday that Inter, led by the FSW, were in for Pienaar.

Until something concrete actually happens, I wouldn't believe diddly squat what they say; they are just trying to be first with any possible story.

City are now seemingly buying so many players that they will be fielding two teams in the PL.
Brendan O'Doherty
13   Posted 21/07/2010 at 23:11:14

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Dermot

If, if, if.

Don't panic over mere speculation.
Alan Kirwin
14   Posted 21/07/2010 at 23:09:14

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Mike Oates - I think we're OK at centre back with Jags, Heitinga, Distin, Yobo and Shane Duffy. Agree on left back, but Luke Garbutt appears to be marked as our future LB, having just signed his first pro contract.

Our season potential is down to two players: Arteta & Pienaar. We can only hope TC has done a job on Arteta and persuaded him to stick with us. As for Pienaar, the only remaining question appears to be do we sell him now or let him run his contract down and get a big signing on fee.

Donovan would be icing on cake. If Pienaar's mood is negative & uncompromising then we'd have to sell and, HOPEFULLY, use that money to get Donovan. It sounds like we're moving the earth to keep Arteta, and so we should. He's a god.
James Flynn
15   Posted 21/07/2010 at 23:16:41

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Dermot (11) - LD has said he loves Galaxy (very true) and he loves EFC (equally true). He goes where HE says he's going. Not MLS or something in the papers.

I'll only add (for the umpteenth time), he'll move only after MLS season ends. He plays for a franchise with aspirations, in a great soccer city in SoCal, playing for a great manager. Him going anywhere in this transfer window is not happening.

He stays in Galaxy colors or exchanges them for EFC's this Winter. That's that.
Simon Watts
16   Posted 21/07/2010 at 23:33:28

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I do think Everton are run badly. I think Donovan would have been an excellent PR move for Everton, in the States. It made great sense. We knew our type of play suited him, before we would have bought him. We know he likes being here. We already have Howard, and would have had the two big names. TV coverage sales in the USA would be profitable, as well as shirt sales. A lot in the country, especially younger people taking up the sport, want to see their idols on TV on a regular basis.
Chris Leyland
17   Posted 22/07/2010 at 00:25:57

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I don't get all this "City are in for Donovan so Everton are badly run" bollocks.

Some facts to consider:

If Shiteh are in for anyone then they will usually get them cos they pay more money thabn anyone else in terms of transfer fees and wages. Imagine Everton offer £8M then Shiteh come in with a £12M bid. Assuming Even if Everton could actually match whatever City were prepared to pay, then if you were Donovan and Moyes says we can only offer you £40k per week as we have a wage structure but City say Landon you can have £90k per week then you'd sign for Citeh,

Just saw Mancini on SSN saying he is interested in Donovan, so it isn't all speculation.

On the issue of Arteta and Pienaar, I am sure that they have been offered deals but the players are stalling seeing what is on offer elsewhere. In terms of the two of them, if Mikel moves to Spain then I say fair enough given his son's condition. If he moves in the Prem then it is all about money.

Finally, Gosling is exactly as his name suggests, a gosling... and we aren't exactly goosed now he has left!!
John Daley
18   Posted 22/07/2010 at 01:00:26

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At least if he goes to City, it will finally put an end to people constantly kidding themselves that we might actually be buying him with our imaginary transfer budget.

As for City, their strategy appears to be simply to stockpile talent without putting any thought into shaping an actual, coherent team. How many players have they got on the books now? They sign them on long term, highly lucrative contracts and then wonder why none of those surplus to requirements are willing to leave when the club decides they want rid.
James Flynn
19   Posted 22/07/2010 at 02:12:56

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Umptee-ninth time:

1. Galaxy til MLS season ends.

2. If leaving Galaxy? To EFC in Winter X-fer window. Jesus!

Let's focus on how Moyes intends to deploy the abundance of talent he's finally accumulated without a a pacy right winger. No EPL team is stacked north, south, east, and west. (And what if Drogba runs out of steroids> Whoops! I mean he goes off his "Fitness Program")? What's Chelsea without Didier scoring goals? Come right back to the the pack, no?

LD will be along mid-season. It's the first PL 19 games we should focus on.
Kristian Boyce
20   Posted 22/07/2010 at 05:02:19

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Fortunately, this story has been slightly fabricated by its original source, ESPN. When asked a question about Donovan, during the build-up to the match against NY Red Bulls, Mancini said nothing about actually targeting Donovan, just some comments about him being a good player and the transfer window being open for a while. He never said 'I want Landon at Man City', just some hacks make up stories as they normally do.

Also, this was City/Mancini talking to an American public (something that they want to sell the City brand to); he'd be foolish if he said he wouldn't be interested the golden boy of US football.

Lastly Donovan comes across as a person with some integrity, something surprising in today's game. I watched a really good documentary about him before the World Cup. He seemed that he generally had a passion for the game and wasn't just in it for the money. He's been burnt before in his big moves to Germany. I can't see him risking this again with a move to City.

Garry Martin
21   Posted 22/07/2010 at 06:24:34

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Let's be honest, Citeh are buying everthing that moves.... Truth is, LD is either staying at Galaxy or heading for EFC.
Tony Rice
22   Posted 22/07/2010 at 06:51:55

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I would be happy to see LD return as a loan signing (10 weeks approx) as he did last year. He's well liked, and would give the squad a boost as the season goes on. Having said that (and knowing I'm in the minority), I'm not convinced that he would be a fantastic long-term signing!

He was in the form of his life when he came to us, prepping for a World Cup, etc etc... His longer term history in Europe is much more spotty. Good addition? ... Yes! World beater? ...No!

I like his attitude towards EFC, but if he goes to Shiteh... not to worried tbh.

Michael Brien
23   Posted 22/07/2010 at 07:14:43

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The sad fact is that City are able to sign whoever they want to because of the vast transfer budget they have. If you compare their transfer dealings so far this summer with even those of Chelsea, then you will see that City have spent far more. Indeed, I think they have spent more than Arsenal, Man Utd & Chelsea put together.

I hope that they don't try and sign Landon Donovan ? for obvious reasons. However, let's console ourselves with some facts of football life that even the mega rich City have to consider:

1) You can only put out a maximum of 11 players ? how are they going to keep everyone happy?

2) Yes, they can offer more money than anyone else ? but sooner or later being a bench warmer gets most players down.

Scott Parker was talked about as a future England international when he moved to Chelsea. A couple of seasons of being a bit part player put paid to those ambitions and he on his way to rebuild his career. The same with Steve Sidwell, who left Chelsea after only one season. What about the so called dream return of Wright-Phillips ? I wonder how long he will remain at Eastlands...

3) The Real Madrid model of assembling a team of Galicticos ? has it worked for them? Not really, has it? It seems they are intent on following the same path ? it doesn't automatically follow that they will win trophies.

I hope that Landon Donovan eventually comes to Goodison, I think he would be a great signing. For City, I think he would be just a bit-part player. Hopefully he will realise this.

As a brief digression, I saw on the BBC website that the Mexiacan left back Carlos Salcido is a possible target for Wigan. He looked very good at the World Cup and given that he can also play Centre Back, he would be a good signing for us.

Come the end of the transfer window, it would be interesting to compare Man City's spending with that of Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd. We may not have a massive transfer budget, to put it mildly, but it seems everyone, even Chelsea and Manchester United, are having to "balance" the books these days.

Steve Pugh
24   Posted 22/07/2010 at 07:31:58

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It will be interesting to see how City work out their 25 man squad:

David Gonzales, Boyata, Boateng, Garrida, Kolo Toure, Zabbayetta, Silva, Viera, Yaya Toure, De Jong, Kompany, Weiss, Adebayor, Caciedo, Robinho, Tevez and Santa Cruz.

All of these must be expecting first team football, and yet at least one of them will not be in the named squad. Every time Mancini is linked with another foreign player these guys must be looking around wondering who is going to miss out. Not a good way to build a happy dressing room.
Jamie Morgan
25   Posted 22/07/2010 at 09:01:22

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I am getting so bored with hearing about Man City targets. Wish we had just a bit of cash as Bellamy, Ireland and SWP must be getting a bit fed up now (all technically home grown players too).

Don't get me wrong ? I love Landon in the blue shirt and think he would help us to really go for it this season, but at best he will play this full MLS season, join us on loan in January, and hopefully at that time we can arrange a deal.

How about £2m a year payment to Galaxy over 4/5 years (kind of like a loan) and he returns to them at the end of an agreed period? Means we get him full time, but he is still contracted to MLS for franchise obligations and heads back to Galaxy at a time where all parties are happy.

Alan Clarke
26   Posted 22/07/2010 at 09:30:59

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Chris Leyland, the reason it shows Everton are badly run is because we should have had Donovan bought by now. Here we have a player who we know will fit straight into the team and make an immediate impact rather than a signing like Fellaini or Billy where you have to wait two seasons before they start playing.

Donovan is a perfect Moyes player ? hard working, versatile, skillful with an eye for goal. Moyes would absolutely love to sign him. The fact Kenwright can't find any money from anywhere is a joke. The marketing potential of Donovan would easily see us recoup the transfer fee.

It's so short sighted and Kenwright gets off scott-free because every other club are crying poverty too (even though they've still found more money than us to spend this summer).

Matthew Mackey
27   Posted 22/07/2010 at 09:31:40

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Jamie (#26) ? an interesting point/suggestion you have made there. Maybe this is the way forward regarding a contract for Landon Donavan.

Kevin Hudson (#4) ? I agree 100% with what you have suggested as the reason why the trash with cash would want Donovan. He would rarely get a game yet the potential to use Landon as a marketing tool to them in the US would be massive. It begs the question why EFC haven't seen this potentially lucrative connection and thus gone that extra mile to sign him up as currently he is the "Beckham" of US football.

However, I get the impression that Landon has got something of substance between his ears and would see this scenario for himself and thus avoid it like the plague. He seems like a loyal type of person to me so maybe he already has it in his mind that he will come back to us in January for another 12-week stunt.

Steve Pugh
28   Posted 22/07/2010 at 09:47:38

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"The reason it shows Everton are badly run is because we should have had Donovan bought by now."

1. If he is not for sale, we cannot buy him.
2. If we have no money, we can't buy him.
3. If he doesn't want to leave MLS, we can't buy him.

Just because you think we should have bought him does not mean that is possible.

Are you assuming that because City have expressed an interest that he will go there?

I find it very amusing that people see Donovan as a City player already because they get every player they want because they have the money. At the same time, people see Arteta as possibly going to City, despite the fact that it is Milner they want and Mikki is only a fallback option. Surely if City get every player that they want, they won't be chasing Arteta.
Roberto Birquet
29   Posted 22/07/2010 at 10:42:48

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I believe Moyes is right that we have no more money. £2M nett spend is about our norm.

But, another thing about Moyes: he has systematically accumulated a strong squad over a few years by creating wealth for the club. We have no money, but generally, he has bought players, and a after a few years sold them on for more money.

The sale of Lescott may have been unwanted, but it effectively means we have brought in Distin, Heitinga, and Bily for just £5 million (the Lescott acquisition). That is wealth creation for Everton. That is the only way we have accumulated such a good squad. We buy, sell on for more dosh, use that to get better players. I would expect this to continue.

For me, that means that we could conceivably get Landon for nothing. I mean, we sell Pienaar (who evidently wants out) for say £12M, making a a £10M profit), and use the money or slighlty less to get Donovan. Effectively, we will have spent nothing but wages for three years of Pienaar followed by four of Donovan.

I've said it before, but I repeat: Landon on a four-year deal makes a million times more sense than Pienaar on a one-year deal. That is what we currently have.

And Steve, who says Landon's not for sale? Are you really that naive that you believe what an owner says? This is football FFS.
Steve Pugh
30   Posted 22/07/2010 at 11:16:56

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Roberto, don't forget MLS is different to PL, Landon isn't owned by a club, he is owned by the league, so money isn't as big an issue to them. They are more interested in raising the profile of the game in the US, and Landon playing in the UK will not do that as much as Landon playing in the US.

Are you really so naive as to think that all businesses are run as shoddily as English football?
David Hallwood
31   Posted 22/07/2010 at 11:10:30

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Slightly off the subject, but a recurring theme throughout the summer, is how many times journalists get in wrong about the transfer market, givien that they have direct contact with players, ex-players, managers directors etc.

About a month ago, I was told by the proverbial 'solid gold' source that Pienaar was going to Spurs and that it was a done deal, and was told why how much etc. The person who told me I know really well, and is close to an insider at the club, who usually keeps his cards close to his chest, but let it slip.

And since then.... nothing. Therefore I've come to the conclusion that most of the 'exclusives' is kite flying and jockeying for postion, by the agents and the clubs, and we all should take no notice whatsoever until they appear in front of the cameras with the shirt, coming out with the usual bollcks along the lines of "When I was growing up on the foothills of the Andes, it was always my dream to play for Blackburn Rovers"
Jimmy Hacking
32   Posted 22/07/2010 at 11:26:29

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There are two possible outcomes here, one (relatively) good, one bad, since I do not believe this player will remain in the USA. It is clear to everybody now, not least the player himself, that he is too good for that league (no disrespect intended either to Landon or MLS).

1) Man City buy him for £18 million, which is far more than Everton could have ever afforded; good luck to the lad, and fair play to City... there'll be no hard feelings from me.

2) Man City buy him for £7 million. Despite a late bid from Everton of £5.5 million Donovan signs for the Sky blues. At the press conference he says it was a "tough call but Everton had their chance and never really made a commitment, City really impressed me etc etc trophies etc etc... building a bright future... blah blah". Every ToffeeWeb user instantly logs on to vent their spleen...
Chris Keightley
33   Posted 22/07/2010 at 11:42:55

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Landon Donavan is a good player but you lot make him sound like a world beater ? which he is not!! I couldn't care two hoots whether he returns or not, my bigger concern would be the lack of funds, the risky purchases thus far, and the complete and utter dog-shite manner in which we let a £5 million player in Gosling leave ? include into the mix Arteta not pinned down... nor Pienaar, and I would happily take 6th right now.

Moyes has said this is his best squad since 2002; come August I think he may have to retract that statement because, if he loses either of his playmakers, he will have no time whatsoever to purchase anyone in time to bed them in, or he will make a couple of panic purchases.

As for City's 25-man squad and the headache that will cause, I would rather that, than scratching around Europe looking for promising prospects.

Richard Reeves
34   Posted 22/07/2010 at 11:26:50

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It's all just speculation at the moment but if Moyes has missed out then it is another spectacular own-goal by the club yet again. Donovan on the right gave us balance, we looked more dangerous and were more of a threat to the so-called top 4 clubs. He settled in straight away and that is important as a lot of players need time to adapt to their surroundings.

If Moyes has no money to spend then I would sell Yobo, Anichebe and I hate to say it but Vaughan as well. I just don't think Vaughan's going to get much of a chance so I would give him the opportunity to carve out a decent career at another club. Anichebe is looking ok on the right but it's only a matter of time before he is replaced with a natural right winger so that will leave him surplus to requirements as the kinds of players that Moyes is going for are of a higher quality.

Yobo is a good player on his day but is prone to making mistakes and we have enough cover in that position. I don't know if these players would generate enough money to buy Donovan but I don't think they will be missed to much if they were sold.

Alan Clarke
35   Posted 22/07/2010 at 12:09:11

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You're right to a point Roberto in that selling a prized asset helps with squad building. However, at some point, you need to keep hold of your squad to create the stability in order to progress further. You'd have some trouble convincing Moyes and most Evertonians that selling Pienaar, Arteta and Jagielka would help with wealth generation and therfore further strengthen our squad.

I think with Moyes's comments this summer about this being his strongest squad yet, he doesn't not want to sell anyone. Also what's the point in selling players who are achieving their potential to buy players who have potential ? only to have to sell them when they reach the same point of acheiving their potential?

Steve, "if we have no money we can't buy him". That is my point! The fact we are skint shows we are badly run. The fact we have to sell our best players to provide money for Moyes to 'strengthen' to me shows we are badly run. Quite how anyone can say we are a well run club (especially after the Gosling fiasco) is beyond me.

Sean Keigher
36   Posted 22/07/2010 at 13:11:39

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Let Donovan sign for City, then we can get him on loan from them... easy!!!
Trevor Lynes
37   Posted 22/07/2010 at 14:09:05

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The Gosling fiasco is not about whether or not the boy would have ever made it at Goodison... the point is, we lost him for nothing and we paid for his medical treatment all the time he was injured.

If ANYONE employed by a normal company allowed an 'asset' to be lost in this way, he would be kicked out!!

We are woefully mismanaged at the top... I don't blame DM but he must be really annoyed at losing a possible few million towards being able to sign someone who MIGHT make the grade.

At the start of every season, we are in utter chaos with either a mini squad compared to other sides or not tieing up contract deals. A couple of seasons ago we had an absolute creche on the bench at the start of a Premier League season. It's brinkmanship every year.... but then, we are EFC?!?

Roberto Birquet
38   Posted 22/07/2010 at 15:10:59

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"Roberto, don't forget MLS is different to PL, Landon isn't owned by a club, he is owned by the league, so money isn't as big an issue to them. They are more interested in raising the profile of the game in the US, and Landon playing in the UK will not do that as much as Landon playing in the US.

Are you really so naive as to think that all businesses are run as shoddily as English football?"

Irrelevant, this is football. Lots of media attention, lots of rubbish spoken. Deals are still made.

And how is the MLS run better than the English Prem? For all its faults (debt-ridden clubs, narrow comepetition), it is a mega-success.

Donovan wants Europe. He'll get it. If not by end of August, defo by the end of this year.

Roberto Birquet
39   Posted 22/07/2010 at 15:14:15

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Jimmy: "There are two possible outcomes here..."

There are two possible outcomes here, and both are Man City?

What do you KNOW that we don't?

There a many possibilities here. He stays in LA. He goes to City, he goes to Everton, he goes to Arsenal, he goes to Villa ? after Milner is out; and many more.

All these stories have come from Mancini answering a question in the affimative.
-Are you interested and could you buy Donovan?
He answered - he is a good player, so it is possible.

That means he is defo going to City????

Football transfer rumours are ten a penny at htis time of year. It is what journos call the "silly season". The main areas of reporting in the UK are: football (there are no competitions on at the mo). Politics (summer recess of Parliament started this week).

They have naff all to write about. That is why Big yawn Brother makes so many headlines in the tabs. And why such an inocuous, barely-commital answer makes headlines round the world.

Of course, going to City would interest Donovan. Money, chance of trophies etc. But the idea that has become set in stone is barmy.

I trust Everton are still trying to do a deal. Pienaar will go, and even Arteta is looking to be on shaky ground, at least for more than year. Competition in midfield is required at Everton, we do not have enough players there. And we need dedicated players.

Andy Whittingham
40   Posted 22/07/2010 at 16:25:06

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Looks to me like City are gonna grab James Milner ? this may mean LD (and indeed Arteta / Pienaar ? who'd also been linked over the summer) would be off their radar...
Jon Cox
41   Posted 22/07/2010 at 19:25:52

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Arteta will stay... Pienaar will stay; Donovan may be with us come January.

That's it. Everything else is complete bollox.

John Daley
42   Posted 22/07/2010 at 22:31:31

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"Competition in midfield is required at Everton, we do not have enough players there".

You sure about that? Arteta, Fellaini, Rodwell, Cahill, Bilyaletdinov, Pienaar, Osman, Heitinga, Neville, Anichebe (whom it appears will be used on the right side of midfield from now on). Surely the midfield is the most oversubscribed area of our squad. Just a shame none of them are genuine wide players.
Roberto Birquet
43   Posted 22/07/2010 at 23:54:35

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Alan Clarke;
You're right to a point Roberto in that selling a prized asset helps with squad building. However, you need to keep hold of your squad to create the stability in order to progress. You'd have some trouble convincing Moyes and most Evertonians that selling Pienaar, Arteta and Jagielka would help with wealth generation and therfore further strengthen our squad.
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I don't propose we sell either Jags or Arteta. And you are right stability should also be part of the mix. But I fundamentally disagree that keeping Pienaar should be part of this. One year left and no new contract simply does not reflect stability.

Lose the one year we have on Pienaar, and gain four of Donovan. No money lost (extremely important for a Club that does not have it). I see no sense keeping someone for a year, who could bring in £12-24 million. no brainer for me.
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John Daley.
I do not see Neville or Heitinger as midfielders. So that is seven including Anichebe. For a team that plays 4-5-1, no I don't think it's enough.

Btw, I have no idea whether Gueye, Beckford, Silva are gonna be frontline forwards this year, but heck, we could have more strikers than midfielders on 4-5-1... nuts!!!

If Moyesie trusts them, I could see a striker going to bring in another midfielder. Just one more midfielder, not including Donovan. Due to our finances, my bet (I repeat) would be sell Pienaar to get 4 years of Donovan. Then another midfielder for squad depth.
Danny Burke
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"I do not see Neville or Heitinger as midfielders."

Except the both of them have played there quite often for us. So Moyes obviously sees them as such. That's the point of having versatile players. While there is no real substitute to quality specialised players, players who can play a number of roles are valuable in a small squad and in a team with little cash.

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