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...from our BBC Correspondent

I've just browsed the BBC Sport pages, and happened upon an article by BBC Correspondent Dan Roan. For anyone who's interested the full article is here.

For those that can't be bothered reading it all, the article includes the following statements...

"Michael Dawson and James Milner were arguably the only two players whose reputations were enhanced in South Africa"

Enhanced? Is this the same James Milner who played (and kicked out) like a headless chicken in the first group match? That wasn't commitment or quality, that was absolute rubbish. If a footballer earning in excess of £20k a week can't remember to keep his head and play FOR the team and not be a liability then he should suffer the same fate as those who have been deemed unworthy. Reputation enhanced? Not from where I'm at!

And then things get a whole lot worse...

"Next, in future squads, must come the likes of Jack Rodwell, Dan Gosling, Cattermole, Phil Jones, and Ryan Shawcross."

Jack's qualities are there for all to see, but Gosling? WTF?

Gosling as a *MUST* for the near future... The only thing he's ever done is score a goal while the adverts were on ITV. (I'm glad he did!) But hasn't he just shown a complete disregard for his (ex-)club, and his previous (ex-)club?

He demanded to be played in the centre of midfield for Everton, meaning that David Moyes must drop either Mikel Arteta or Fellaini? Who in their right mind would even contemplate such a move? Ultimately he turned his back on an agreed contract and went on a free, removing the possibility of a much-earned fee for both Everton and Plymouth.

To be an England footballer, you need to have pride, commitment and loyalty. Neither of the recommendations cited here have these qualities at all. Milner has quality, but shows impetuous, arrogant, and ill-disciplined attitude towards the job in hand. Gosling, well there's another story, but what he has ever done to deserve an England call-up I really don't see at all.

What really irks me is that we in the UK have to pay a television licence fee every year and contribute to this prat's salary!


Lloyd Sloan, Wallasey, UK     Posted 08/08/2010 at 03:29:07

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David Marsden
1   Posted 08/08/2010 at 17:20:30

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I see Rodwell is missing from the England squad. Does anyone know why. Football 365 quotes the reason as, "Knowing he must now look to the future, the Italian views Wilshere as the ideal age to develop at a more rapid rate, which is why he was included and Jack Rodwell is not." This I don't get. Can anyone shed some light?
Rick Adams
2   Posted 08/08/2010 at 17:50:34

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Yeah, it's quite simple: Capello doesn't know what he is doing ? did you not see the World Cup?
Dean Adams
3   Posted 08/08/2010 at 17:49:17

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Rodwell is in the under 21 squad with Stuart Pearce, probably because he plays for us!!!
Robert Heaton
4   Posted 08/08/2010 at 18:09:01

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The article makes an even simpler error.

'Some would argue that to properly usher in a new era, a headline-grabbing French-style culling was required, with at least several high-profile England stalwarts punished with exclusion.

Capello has gone as far as he felt he could and probably further than most of us expected him to. King, David James, Rob Green, Leighton Baines, Tom Huddlestone, Stephen Warnock, Matthew Upson and Shaun Wright-Phillips were obvious casualties.'

Leighton wasn't at the World Cup so how is he a casualty????

Very poor from the writer
Gavin Ramejkis
5   Posted 08/08/2010 at 18:37:21

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The writing is as piss poor as the national squad. I'd rather no Everton players are involved in the whole setup, favouritism, shite team, shite tactics, etc. Jags has been called up but guarantee he won't start and will be lucky to get on as a sub. Blaming Baines for the World Cup is as big a joke as the shower that did play.

As an aside, I think Milner had a poor World Cup but think he looked ill. That squad was a bunch of massive individual egos not worthy a game managed by a stubborn geriatric so no surprise at the outcome.

I'd rather Everton players steered clear of the perpetual shite which is the national team and concentrated on playing for Everton.

Brian Waring
6   Posted 08/08/2010 at 18:40:31

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Lloyd, funny thing is, there was plenty on here saying what a great buy Gosling was by Moyes, and how he was one for the future. Now, after he has left us (after a fuck-up by the club), he is shit, glad he's gone etc. This seems to be the norm by some of our fans, as soon as anybody dare leave, they get called everything under the sun.

I bet you if Gosling was still here, there would be plenty on here agreeing that he is a future England player.
Dick Anderson
7   Posted 08/08/2010 at 19:05:41

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If Gosling was still at Everton, the debate would be: Does he have a future with Everton? ? never mind England.

Gosling had no chance of breaking into Everton's midfield. In his short time with the club, Gosling showed an eye for goal but looked very limited as a player.

There's no chance that Gosling could have displaced Cahill, Arteta, Pienaar, Fellaini, Rodwell or even Osman. He simply isn't that good.

My guess is that, had he stayed, Gosling would have spent 2-3 more seasons as a bit-part player before Moyes eventually moved him on to another club.

That's not sour grapes ? that's just honesty.
Andy Crooks
8   Posted 08/08/2010 at 19:33:01

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I thought Gosling was a right back, a position where he has even less chance at Everton than central midfield.
Jimmy Hacking
9   Posted 08/08/2010 at 19:31:05

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I for one am delighted to see Jack Wilshire finally getting his long-overdue call up, he has clearly earned his place in the centre of the England midfield, impressing week-in, week-out with his two substitute appearances for Arsenal over two magnificent seasons... and who can forget the tap-in he scored in the League Cup 20 months ago?
Stephen Kenny
10   Posted 08/08/2010 at 19:49:56

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Fabio Capello doesn't know his arse from his elbow in terms of english football. Players like Paul Robinson who he deemed not good enough three months ago are now recalled? Why? What's changed? Are they in such spectacular pre-season form?

Like the previous three england manager's before him he shit himself and tried to accomodate Lampard and Gerrard in the same team, something that will never work. And dont get me started on Emile Heskey. If any team ever wns a world cup with players like him in the side then I'll show me arse in Debenhams window!!!
Stephen Kenny
11   Posted 08/08/2010 at 19:49:56

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Fabio Capello doesn't know his arse from his elbow in terms of english football. Players like Paul Robinson who he deemed not good enough three months ago are now recalled? Why? What's changed? Are they in such spectacular pre-season form?

Like the previous three england manager's before him he shit himself and tried to accomodate Lampard and Gerrard in the same team, something that will never work. And dont get me started on Emile Heskey. If any team ever wns a world cup with players like him in the side then I'll show me arse in Debenhams window!!!
Andrew Ellams
12   Posted 08/08/2010 at 19:58:36

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The reason Rodwell and Cattermole were left out is that they are direct competition for people like Gerrard and Lampard who are pretty much undroppable as far as the FA are concerned. This huge change stuff is bollocks. Capello has dropped all the poor sods who watched the debacle in South Africa from the bench and kept the ones that produced such complete and utter, spineless crap.
Iain Love
13   Posted 08/08/2010 at 21:12:44

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Friendly on Wed, just as most of the players have returned from the England squad ?????? WTF how stupid can you get , Oh Heskey playing, how stupid can you get , Oh not including Englands most promising young talent Rodwell.
As most of the posters say glad we haven't got much involment from Everton.
Ray Robinson
14   Posted 08/08/2010 at 21:17:13

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Capello had made a rod for his own back. He has picked, as someone stated previously, players that he deemed were not good enough to go to the World Cup. We're going to go backwards - if that is possible.
Steve Pugh
15   Posted 08/08/2010 at 22:43:21

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Jimmy #10 you obviously didn't pay much attention to Bolton last season.

As for Lampard and Gerrard, don't blame Capello, they sell more shirts than anyone (even Rooney) so the FA insist that they play.
Mike Green
16   Posted 09/08/2010 at 00:06:00

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Jimmy (10) - Steve's right but great post, cracked me up.

Steve - given last seasons performances if Wilshere was a Bolton player and not an Arsenal player on loan do you think he'd have been called up for the senior squad?

Not in a month of Sundays.
Eric Myles
17   Posted 09/08/2010 at 02:30:10

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Jimmy (#10) Good post but until someone invents a sarcasm font you have to start such posts with the formatting tags [sarcasm font on] and end with [sarcasm font off] otherwise some people who have had a funny bone transplant will think you are serious.
Lloyd Sloan
18   Posted 09/08/2010 at 04:38:23

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Brian, I don't disagree - it's easy to slate when we've been done wrong. In this case however I simply stated the facts - but even if he were still an Everton player I would still be saying I find it hard to believe that a BBC hack is calling for him to earn an England cap - I just don't understand where the merit for a call-up comes from.

Rodwell is a different kettle of fish, proving his doubters wrong game after game, taking more responsibility with each match, his advancement in the game was evident in the Man City away game.

Gosling, on the other hand is a player of promise, but who shows nowhere near the same level of progression as Rodwell - which irritates me because I have this feeling that, alongside his agent, he thinks his career path is now pre-destined, and he's made it to the big time and he'll stay there. Unfortunate if this really is his mindset, we've all seen players advance to his level and then disappear quite dramatically because they haven't had the resolve, commitment and character to carry on working to achieve a higher goal.
Lloyd Sloan
19   Posted 09/08/2010 at 04:49:48

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By the way, for anybody else who's missed out on the other important feature of Mr Roan's primary piece of BS cited in this article...

"Michael Dawson and James Milner were arguably the only two players whose reputations were enhanced in South Africa."

Dawson was called up as a late addition to the squad, yet didn't feature in any of the games ? so how the bloody hell his reputation has been enhanced by this entire episode I just can't fathom!
Chad Schofield
20   Posted 09/08/2010 at 00:59:19

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Haven't most of the castes stemmed from the fact that this is perhaps the most ridiculous friendly ever? Whoever scheduled this should be shot. Exactly in the same way as the FA should be questioning their logic of giving managers contract extensions just before major tournaments... He would not have walked before the end of the World Cup - or did he have some kind of Gosling contract?

Norman Merrill
21   Posted 09/08/2010 at 13:55:59

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I will be happy if Jack Rodwell stays with the U21's for now.
I would have been a little nervy, if he had made that first full squad, as there is an air of discontentment in the camp, and Wednesday game versus Hungary will receive a very cool reception, from the fans.
Anyway, Jack has to stamp his place in our first eleven, before getting involved with the inner sactum, and being daily poached, by the golden boys.
Anthony Hughes
22   Posted 09/08/2010 at 14:05:36

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England as a national team are all over the place at the moment regarding selections and i agree with Norman i would rather Rodwell just concentrate on his football and establish himself with some regular quality performances in our midfield without being caught in the shit that is flying about with England's so called finest at the moment

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