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I have been reading comments of why Moyes keeps players on the bench, the team having bad preparations for the season etc etc...

There's something that puzzles, irritates, frustrates me: that is Moyes's approach to his style of managing the team and his players. When you have the players available, when you have the youngsters who are playing well and so damn willing to play for the team, when it is obvious some 'other players' are not performing, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know which is the best 11.

This team which Moyes currently played, is last season's team, or maybe two seasons ago. After seeing them played week-in, week-out, he still doesn't realize that they are only good enough for 5th to 10th position in the league? (Honestly, that 4th we got was just one off, we were just lucky.)

His reason is, it will kill the new players and youngsters if they are put into the team too soon. But what is he waiting for? Till it starts to piss off Pienaar, Arteta and Heitinga when they realise it is not happening? Or maybe Baines and Jagielka? Waiting for another club to come buy our stars and youngsters?

He is just too conservative. Maybe he was a defender, never liked to gamble. He has been playing the waiting game for seasons. Rodwell... please wait. Coleman... wait. Silva... wait. Gueye... wait. Be aggressive and play 2 strikers... wait.

Eeer...what are we waiting for? I KNOW! NEXT SEASON!! COS IT IS STILL PRE-SEASON! DAMN!
David Duffy, Singapore     Posted 23/08/2010 at 11:35:52

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Anthony Hughes
1   Posted 23/08/2010 at 15:07:40

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Moyes is a conservative,safety first manager,it's not his style to go out and play attacking football,some of this has been down to lack of resources down the years but apparently we do now have options going forward but whether he can break out of his defensive mindset is another thing.More often than not though when were linked with or buy players they seem to be right backs or centre halfs which is an indicator of how is football philosophy is.Moyes has his positives when it comes to backs to the wall,up against it mentality type performances but i dont think we'll ever be the great entertainers under him.
Trevor Thompson
2   Posted 23/08/2010 at 17:02:07

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Moyes was a defender by trade and it seems that still his mentality. To be fair, I'm not bothered with the defensive mentality. There have been lots of sucessful teams that play defensively. Unfortunately, we seem to not be able to play that right and concede goals. Moyes needs to realise that we can beat anyone on our day as we proved last season against Man U and Chelsea.
Andy Crooks
3   Posted 23/08/2010 at 17:55:32

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Our problem is that poor sides do not have to be at their best to succeed against us. Blackburn and Wolves were poor. We have wasted points and, come the end of the season, after good shows against better sides, we will rue it as usual.
David Duffy
4   Posted 23/08/2010 at 18:42:59

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Guys, just like I mentioned, results will come. This Christmas, we will be somewhere in 6-8th, 20 points adrift the 3rd place team. Fighting for a Europa place. Don't think we need an octopus to predict this.
Andrew Gilbert
5   Posted 23/08/2010 at 18:59:30

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If anyone is interested here is a link to Everton reserves V Chelsea reserves.
Andy Mack
6   Posted 23/08/2010 at 20:57:59

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Thanks for the link Andrew, good to get a chance to see the reserves. Mucha's pulled off some very good saves tonight. Maybe we'll see him in the cup.
Ped Pearl
7   Posted 23/08/2010 at 22:40:54

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So... from what you are saying David, you believe that Gueye, Coleman,Rodwell and Silva are the players to take us to the next level, that is of 1st to 4th?? You are having a laaaaf aint yaaa.

The players chosen in the first two games are the same ones that did so well the second half of last season, and beat City, Utd and Chelsea. Unfortunately they have just not got the job done. Inferior opposition that we expected 6 points from.

It`s really pissed everyone off that we have made a slower start than we all expected. The only reason I have is that when we play a top half team our set up shape is much better. We are not yet used to being the team on the front foot looking for ways of breaking teams down. Getting the first goal is important.. and that`s what we must do against Villa on Sunday.

Expect the boys to get going sooner rather than later. We have both the squad and the manager to do it - IMWT
Ped Pearl
8   Posted 23/08/2010 at 22:58:24

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Actually, I think the player we have missed so far is Anichebe - a bit of pace and power on the right.
Colin Noon
9   Posted 23/08/2010 at 23:29:58

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It seems to be the Everton way to start the season sluggish... and I can fully understand the frustration that people are feeling. But I do beileve we will be there or thereabouts for a top 4 finish come the end of the season.

There is no hiding from the fact that we should be looking at 6 points from 2 games with the quality of oppostition we have played. But we are not and we cant do anything about it now except move on,,,

Blackburn and Wolves made it hard for us and will do so for many teams this season, we simply did not do enough to break them down and that is dissapointing, of course it is. But we do have quality players who are more than capable of turning a game and we WILL show that.

That all important first win is what we all crave and with that comes confidence. We have shown in the past that when we get on a run we can be a damn tough team to beat and that is no fluke, I am a huge fan of David Moyes and think he has done a wonderful job consoladating Everton, the challenge now is to make that nest step, I think he can... I think WE can. 4 points from our next 2 games is gettable thats for sure... I am confident.. I always am tho.
Anthony Hughes
10   Posted 24/08/2010 at 07:28:21

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Missing Anichebe??? That's the beginning of the end.
Alan Clarke
11   Posted 24/08/2010 at 07:59:51

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I think it's right that Moyes should have some loyalty to the players that have done well for him in the past. It does nothing for a player's confidence if they think they'll get dropped the first time they misplace a pass. This team just needs to get going.

The problem I have is that Moyes does not have the players on the bench to change the system. An age old criticism of Moyes is his lack of a plan B. All of those players on the bench on Saturday were like for like replacements. Fellaini for Heitinga, Saha for Beckford, Osman for Bily. Rodwell is another midfielder similar to Heitinga and Fellaini. Gueye could have come on for Pienaar. There's no real variation with the players that would have changed the way we play. That's why Moyes should really be making sure he gets in a player with some pace before August 3st just so we have a plan B.
David Duffy
12   Posted 24/08/2010 at 09:39:14

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Hi Ped Pearl, you must be damn freaking proud when we beat Chelsea and City. Is that all you are aiming for? What i am saying is, its worth gambling. What is there to lose? Don't you have enough of 5-10th position? The team is now stronger than ever, i'd rather we gamble and maybe fall to 15th than to play it safe and stay at 8th

"Expect the boys to get going sooner rather than later."....... think we have been hearing this since many years ago Ped...I am also confident they will..."soon" that is.... and we will be there in the table...MID that is. And yes, my toes are laughing Ped! HA HA HA. Anichebe? I bet you are a by-line painter! Cos he never step onto your line! thank you.

Anichebe? Thought he is just another Yak.
Anthony Hughes
13   Posted 24/08/2010 at 11:15:18

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Colin, I agree Moyes has done a good job consolidating the team but I think he has something missing when it comes to being able to push us on to the next level, whether it be tactical nouse, team selection or style of play.
Ped Pearl
14   Posted 25/08/2010 at 09:43:17

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David Duffy; bet you anything that Moyes rates Anichebe ? I will expect him back in the starting 11 soon as he is fit. I seem to remember him finding his feet the back end of last year. Don't you??

So after just 2 games of the season you believe that all we can achieve is mid table... well I don't think you do, David... I have just as much faith in you as I do in Big Vic! (lol)

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