It may only be three games into the present campaign and I am not singling Jermaine Beckford out for undue criticism; however, it must be asked is how we can be pinning our offensive hopes on a player cutting his teeth in the rigour of the Premier League and making the massive step-up of two levels from League One?
We now have a roll call of Yakubu, Saha, Beckford, Vaughan, Anichebe, Silva and Gueye... I guess the combined salary of such being in excess of £100k per week, and it appears from the evidence so far that we are both toothless and impotent in front of goal. I am praying that Moyes is able to 'wheel and deal' in the coming days in the transfer market and find a goalscorer ? either that, or Yakubu finds a miracle sometime soon and is restored to the team and starts firing.
To have so many strikers on the books is criminal when, for all our midfield superiority, there does not appear to be anybody capable of stepping up to the plate.
Peter Laing, Posted 29/08/2010 at 18:45:58
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1 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:22:54
What annoys me is that all fucking summer I've been hearing how Liverpool are in so much debt. The banks might take control, the administrators are knocking on the door. And yet they bought another new player today for £11 million. Taking their total spending this summer past £22 million.
And yet the only new player who Everton have this season who actually looks like getting some first team football is a free fucking transfer from League One!!!
League One's third best striker on a free!!!
Might explain why Everton are currently in the relelgation zone.
2 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:33:32
But lets give the lad a chance, I aint given up on him.
3 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:33:07
We were by far the better side again today, be patient.
Some people need to learn the art of patience............................................................even if it is nine years and counting!!!
4 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:26:32
I am quite confused as to why we're keeping Yakubu and Yobo. I like both players but they serve no purpose. Yakubu is a 3rd string striker who doesn't play any other position. Yobo is our 4th center back and quite frankly, it would be more useful to give Shane Duffy some experience than have Yobo on the books. Again, I like both guys. They have worked hard and been servants to the club but we could sell them and make 10 mil easily. Use that to buy a striker (who can stay fit for a whole season) and then maybe we won't see games like we did today.
Coleman looked decent down the right. He looked kind of lost off the ball but on the ball he looked good. Could be a solution to the right wing problem.
5 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:39:58
6 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:44:28
Moyes doesn't know what to do with Strikers at at the moment they all leave Goodison for a lot less than we paid for them.. JB was free I suppose and don't say we made a profit on Marcus Bent. We splassed good mony on AJ, Beattie & Yak. Will Yak also leave for half on what we paid for him and go into a sharp career dive. Give Jermaine some flack, Moyes has a good record of ruining strikers.
7 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:48:35
8 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:51:54
9 Posted 29/08/2010 at 19:58:16
Apart from the Yak who got 20 goals in a season before he got injured, those on your list came through the academy or cost relatively next to nothing.
Financially we are going backwards, making it all the more difficult to keep going forwards on the pitch (metaphorically!).
10 Posted 29/08/2010 at 20:06:26
11 Posted 29/08/2010 at 20:21:40
12 Posted 29/08/2010 at 21:01:34
He tried to get Bellamy on loan but was told 'we could not afford him'.
These questions have to be directed at the board IMO, who have managed to come up with even less money this summer than ever before.
13 Posted 29/08/2010 at 20:47:06
Today for 50+ mins he played, he got nothing, not a chance and then Saha comes on and gets 3 good ones, maybe more and doesnt hit the back off the net, i bet Beckford was watching from the bench and wishing he got just one or 2 of them, we moan about Beckford but Saha came on, got good chances and couldnt score, and he's supposedly one of our best strikers and on his day one of the best in the league (yeah right!).
How people can judge Beckford when he hasnt had a sniff in front of goal is beyond me, yeah his 1st touch might not be the best but sometimes he can do the one touch link up play very well and he's got the movement and pace but he just isnt getting the service!.
I could understand people having a dig at him and things if he was constantly fluffing chances or not converting em but he isnt even getting any chances cos were giving him absolutely fuck all. How can you judge a striker if he hasnt been created the chances to show his finishing or goalscoring credentials at this level, give the lad a chance for fuck sake and reserve judgement until he does get the breaks and chances!.
My main concern is is that we have a RW problem and Moyes must know that but he isnt addressing it, it needs sorting and if we havent got the money to do so then get rid of whatever players we can do with out and fetch some money in to sort the problem out, cos playing the likes of Rodwell, Osman and even Bily there isnt the answer!.
Maybe having an out an out winger on the right might sort out are creative problems in the final third, signing a winger or maybe someone like Donovan would give us balance and pace and some much needed threat down our right and that could be the difference for us, im sure with a better balanced midfield and a decent RW'er, a bit of pace and creativity would create the chances for our strikers to start converting.
14 Posted 29/08/2010 at 21:12:52
Having said that, he cannot learn playing in the current formation. He needs a Saha or Yakubu playing beside him so that he can watch them and learn from them and hopefully pick up the layoff and knock dowm from them. He has so much to learn about holding up the ball, releasing free players and movement off his marker. Play up front on his own will not help this develop.
15 Posted 29/08/2010 at 21:05:44
Chris Sillet *11, i agree with you too, although i dont think for one minute Beckford was brought in to solve the problem, he was brought in as a chance and to add to the competition and with him being free, he was definitely within our budget, but we need to give Beckford time and a chance and we need to stop expecting too much from him cos lets face it, he isnt our number one striker and he as come from league 1 so he's not going to score every week just cos he banged em in for fun down there!. In fact, it would help if we created something for him so we could see what he can do but at the moment, he's getting nothing.
Your spot on about Moyes moaning about our final third and us not having a cutting edge, if he nows were a bit short then why isnt he scouring the loan market to try and sort this problem out?. I know we tried for Bellamy but what about the likes of Santa Cruz from City, Robbie Keane from Spurs, Huntelaar from Milan now that they've got Ibrahimovic, ive even seen on SSN that Stoke are in talks to loan Gudjohnsen from Monaco, why arent we looking into these posibilities if Moyes knows we need something up top?!.
I'll be seriously pissed off if we dont do anything in the market from now and until tuesday tea time when the window closes cos we need something on the right wing, some more creativity coming from midfield and we could do with another striker IMO.
16 Posted 29/08/2010 at 21:36:43
"I know we tried for Bellamy but what about the likes of Santa Cruz from City, Robbie Keane from Spurs, Huntelaar from Milan now that they've got Ibrahimovic, ive even seen on SSN that Stoke are in talks to loan Gudjohnsen from Monaco, why arent we looking into these posibilities if Moyes knows we need something up top?!."
17 Posted 29/08/2010 at 21:41:55
18 Posted 29/08/2010 at 21:53:07
"There?s always money available, it?s not much I have to say this season. ?We?ve made a few transfers and if the manager found someone he really, really wanted that was within a price range ? or if he maybe did a bit of wheeler dealing."
Direct quotes from Mr Kenwright himself. Surely theres enough money to fund a couple of loan signings atleast?
19 Posted 29/08/2010 at 22:04:54
"Surely theres enough money to fund a couple of loan signings atleast?"
You would have thought so. But like I said above,Moyes himself said that he wanted to take Bellamy on loan, and was told that we could not afford it.
Draw you own conclusions.
20 Posted 29/08/2010 at 22:01:41
21 Posted 29/08/2010 at 22:09:16
To be honest, although this may be a bit early to say again, I don't think Bily is up to standard, and he'd be the one I'd look to ship out if we wanted to free up some funds to sign a right-midfielder/striker
22 Posted 29/08/2010 at 22:12:55
23 Posted 29/08/2010 at 23:16:58
Unfortunately though, I suspect that the strikers on Aidy's list are all on a similar wage to Bellamy, and would have to take a significant pay cut to come to us, making it unlikely that it would happen.
But you never know.
24 Posted 29/08/2010 at 23:36:10
You either want your striker to score goals, or you don't. Jermaine isn't a link man, he is a goalscorer... he lives on the shoulder. Give him proper service and he will score bucket loads. How is he going to get the service from the likes of Cahill and Fellaini though, when they can't pass water?
I think what Everton actually need up front to satisfy the mob of baying idiots is Roy of The Rovers.
25 Posted 29/08/2010 at 23:21:23
The experiment with Rodwell on the right struggled to make any kind of impact and was an abject failure. It does make one wonder if this kind of tactical change is practised at Finch Farm.
In his post-match interview, Moyes said he was going to bench Jack at half-time. If that is the case, why in hell's name did he wait another 25 minutes to do it? The lad suffered injury during that 25 mins action and now he may miss a few games for club and country. Another example of Davy the ditherer perhaps?
26 Posted 30/08/2010 at 01:59:05
But they have helped Cardiff out cos they're not a threat to City and he wanted to go to Cardiff and Mancini wanted rid.
The names I mention I'm talking about loan deals, surely we could afford and broker a deal for any of those, IF they would be willing to loan us them. Santa Cruz and Keane are probably long shots thinking about it now cos they wouldn't want to loan to a rival and City won't help out with wages, well they wouldn't with Bellamy so I'm guessing it will be the same with Santa Cruz?!
27 Posted 30/08/2010 at 07:30:36
I would've preferred Moyes to have played Arteta out on the right and have Jack and Fellaini in the middle. I know that Arteta dictates games better from the middle of the park but he is more experienced out wide than Rodwell.
We were very unlucky against Villa... but the goals and the 3 points will come... and hopefully we won't be playing catch up as badly as last season.
I wouldn't mind giving Santa Cruz a chance if we can get him. Apart from that, we have real talent in midfield ? so much so that Cahill might find himself on the bench soon if we can find a right sided midfielder. I don't care about the stick for saying this but I am looking forward to seeing Anichebe fit again... we have missed his power, pace and directness.
28 Posted 30/08/2010 at 08:52:44
Beckford is no better than Vaughan yet gets the nod ahead of him. Moyes is clueless and tactically inept, end of! Thanks for steadying the ship, but move on!
29 Posted 30/08/2010 at 08:49:39
Bily's 25 to be fair and will clearly never cut it on the wing for me and we really don't need another central player. The goals he's scored will keep his value close to the £9/10 mill we spent on him and we could effectively swap Bily and a Vaughan, for example, for Donovan or another right winger, or a striker. We could even sell Osman or Yak if we had to. I think we could raise £16 mill on transfer fees which could get Donovan in, add a striker and maybe more.
It will never happen, I know... but, in the present situation, I'd like to see some change. Keep the great players, and in terms of the more average ones, out with the old and in with the new.
30 Posted 30/08/2010 at 10:19:17
31 Posted 30/08/2010 at 10:22:52
As we play 1 up front, it is essential that the forward we pick can hold the ball up and bring the midfield into play. Beckford's first touch is woeful and as such he cannot fulfill this role. Our 1 striker must be able to play with his back to goal, Beckford prefers to play facing the goal.
As I said, I think he could be useful as a pairing but we only play 2 strikers when we are chasing a game and as such I believe he should be on the bench, certainly for the time being.
Regarding transfers I have said it before, I firmly believe Moyes has been too stuborn about not selling someone. In my opinion, we have Jagielka, Heitinga, Rodwell, Fellaini who would all command a good fee. We will rarely pick all 4 in the same side if ever. One should have been sold to fund Donavan and a striker.
Personally, and I know I will be slated for this, I can't believe we turned down £16M for Jagielka. Good player as he is, that money could have been better spent on other areas of the team and I don't believe playing Heitinga at CB instead of Jags would weaken our side.
32 Posted 30/08/2010 at 11:23:02
33 Posted 30/08/2010 at 11:49:38
If its the 31st August today could you tell me what horses won all the races on the 30th August - I'm just interested that's all ...
34 Posted 30/08/2010 at 13:51:38
35 Posted 30/08/2010 at 15:02:54
I have read a few of your recent posts and feel that you must have stopped taking your medication. Now just remember, you are an Everton fan; stop getting excited ? it won't do you any good.
Just calm down, take a few deep breaths, that's it. Now come on, stop all that silly dreaming, you won't win the league, that's just silly. You must make sure you don't forget your meds again, all this excitment might just kill you...
36 Posted 30/08/2010 at 15:55:45
The same deal was not offered to Everton, probably because we mugged them with Lescott and we're a threat to 4th place...
I just though I'd post a little fact, among a lot of bullshit ...
37 Posted 30/08/2010 at 18:20:54
38 Posted 30/08/2010 at 19:17:38
39 Posted 30/08/2010 at 19:15:53
40 Posted 31/08/2010 at 09:21:18
I fail to get excited when I read/hear that Everton are interested in this or that striker. It is for the simple reason that Moyes always plays 4-5-1 so it's a case of which strikers who will be on the bench. Look at some of the Moyes signings that have not worked out/not lasted many seasons at Everton. The majority are strikers ? the tactics that Moyes seeems to like the most call for playing a lone striker. Not every striker can adapt to that formation. Would Bellamy if he had come been employed as the sole striker in a 4-5-1 formation? We have good strikers ? the problem is we don't have a manager who knows how to get the best out of them.
Pienaar has come in for stick due to the length of his contract negotiations. Think back to how long it took Moyes to agree his deal!! They say that example is the best from of leadership. It is time for Moyes to step up to the plate and take responsibility. He is the one who decides the tactics. My fear is that he is starting to believe the publicity. It doesn't matter how good a manager you are, you are not above criticism ? Ferguson and Wenger understand that.
41 Posted 31/08/2010 at 10:01:38
We knew we were'nt getting a player with Rooney like touch but one with pace and hopefully the ability to finish. He's had few chances so far (unlike Saha) so let's hold off on judgement.
The fact that we went 1-0 down didn't help either as I think Beckford will profit when teams have to come out to attack us leaving more space at the back.
42 Posted 31/08/2010 at 10:22:54
If we didn't have Cahill then we probably would be playing with 2 strikers. He is limited with his feet and only seems to come into the game at set pieces. Don't get me wrong, I think he has tremendous skills and should be in our starting team. But where should he fit in and how much does that change our other positions?
43 Posted 31/08/2010 at 13:34:29
This is not a recently developed opinion.
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