Be it where to best play Johnny H; Baines going walk-about up the wing; getting Osman out, without bringing in the other waster Bily; getting Coleman in ? two runs as sub and we looked a different team; more attacking action on BOTH wings; not leaving just two poorish decision makers on thier own at the back.
The answer is... THREE AT THE BACK:
Jagieelka, Heitinga Distin
I've been saying it since we signed Jags, an idea whose time has come?? IYWDM??
Derek Thomas, Posted 11/09/2010 at 22:16:23
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1 Posted 12/09/2010 at 16:36:25
2 Posted 12/09/2010 at 17:02:11
3 Posted 12/09/2010 at 17:00:11
4 Posted 12/09/2010 at 17:02:54
5 Posted 12/09/2010 at 18:03:24
6 Posted 12/09/2010 at 19:29:42
I'm not saying that it could not work but we haven't got the time now to bed the players into the system, this sort of thing needs doing pre season not once it's started.
7 Posted 12/09/2010 at 20:04:09
We are stuck with it end of.
8 Posted 12/09/2010 at 20:41:45
It's not a million miles from where we're at now in some respects. The extra man means you have cover for the wing-backs. It also means that even if one of the three occasionally breaks forward into midfield, as both Distin & Heitinga are prone to do when an appropriate opportunity arises, there is adequate cover behind them. The midfield doesn't change too much, as Fellaini still performs the DM role & Cahill the attacking point of the midfield, it's just that with having only two other midfielders they'll probably tend to play a little more narrowly but no doubt they would still link up with the wing-back as necessary. However, it's all hypothetical & I doubt we'll ever see it in action.
9 Posted 12/09/2010 at 21:14:49
I was flabbergasted at yesterday's team selection and so at the moment I'd settle for us having one striker in the next match.
10 Posted 12/09/2010 at 21:50:36
11 Posted 12/09/2010 at 23:59:15
Most successful sides are playng 4-5-1 which can also revert to 4-3-3.
Our problem is we need a quality Centre back and a quality forward as we have neither consitently.
12 Posted 12/09/2010 at 22:24:06
Obviously teams play more fluid formations, and currently having the Defensive Midfielder, Heitinger on Saturday, is supposed to sure up into a back five when we're under threat, it's just that he got caught too many times in no man's land. Equally, in principle a 4-5-1 should allow you to go to 4-3-3 when on the front foot, but as regularly pointed out, with Osman migrating to his more favoured central position it's left to Hibert to provide any crosses and contain any threat down their left.
I think it's a good idea, and perhaps if we continue to leak goals as we have, Moyes might explore the idea post-Christmas or the 11/12 season.
13 Posted 13/09/2010 at 08:20:13
What we need is a mangaer with the balls to actually drop someone, Distin Heitinga and Jagielka all vying for 2 CB spots so what does moyes do? puts Heitinga in Fellaini's best position and drops a striker to accomodate Fellaini!! FFS !! We only looked dangerous on saturday after he finally relented and put a striker on (Yakubu has hasn't played yet and instantly looked a better option) I think the lad Gueye deserves at least a decent half hour run out on the left, he's got pace and has proved he can put in a good cross, pienaar switch to the right. Can't understand why he spent so much on Billy and yet still play osman.
14 Posted 13/09/2010 at 09:02:44
Martin was completely right, we did only looked dangerous when Moyes went for an attacking option. After going two goals behind. That's not with just bringing the Yak on, but also Seamus Coleman. Whenever he had the ball, he wanted to go forward, at one instance he miscontrolled and ended up winning a free kick on the edge of the area.
As for the Yak, I was really pleased to see him back. He certainly was a handful. The work he put in for Osman's shot on goal was brilliant.
15 Posted 13/09/2010 at 10:10:23
16 Posted 13/09/2010 at 10:33:46
One of the keys to coaching is to use a system that fits what you have... and we have 2 wingbacks in Baines and Coleman.
As for, they may be crossing from too deep both Baines and Coleman like to play the one two, with the option of shooting or getting to the bye line and pulling it back.
What if one gets injured? what is the plan B...like our current plan A of seemingly random changes and poor results is doing the biz... Hello!! there never has been a plan B. unless you count hving 11 or 12 fit players and going 460.
It won't work? we will never know, I know this, not much is and waiting for a season defining incident is not my idea of plan B.
Sorry about the mini rant but in football terms we have, like most jumped on the 451 band wagon. You have to be driving the band wagon, setting the pace, not trying to keep up.
17 Posted 13/09/2010 at 11:57:54
3 at the back means we would need a set of skilled box-to-box wingers/midfielders. And we dont have that.
Its a dream and thats all...next you'll be saying the answer is to play two up front! :D
18 Posted 13/09/2010 at 12:56:00
19 Posted 13/09/2010 at 13:39:21
Please don't insult my intelligence and say he had a good game. He was awful, absolutely awful against the Manure. You can play any numbers game you like, but if the individuals are not good enough then it will always end in tears.
20 Posted 13/09/2010 at 16:22:52
21 Posted 13/09/2010 at 21:49:21
If one of the 3 gets injured or is shit(ie Distin) who takes their place, a fullback?
22 Posted 14/09/2010 at 00:46:40
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