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Disappointing Reserves Result

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While that is a word that is often touted on this site for most things Everton, I have to express my disappointment at the reserve team's result against West Ham.

Usually I'm not to concerned about the reserves but having reviewed the team sheet, its startling to think how we didn't manage to score 5, let alone lose.

Geuye, Coleman (apparently he's amazing), Yakubu, Neville, Beckford ? that's half the outfield players who could be considered senior team players.

If our squad is of quality now and we have good players on the fringes ? how come we couldn't beat West Ham Utd?
Jamie Rowland, Liverpool     Posted 15/09/2010 at 13:53:20

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Paul Oakes
1   Posted 15/09/2010 at 14:51:09

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Let's be honest who remotely cares about the Reserve team?

Its not going to win anything, and who cares if it does? The team you should be showing your disappointment for is the first team.

The reserves are made up of, as been's returning injured players for fitness and the academy players who are simply not good enough to make it into the first team.

I remember reading an article in the Evertonian a while back regarding some of our first team players who where injured at the time, stating they wouldn't feature for the reserves because its all about the treadmill and other exercise stuff at finch farm. Very rarely will you find a first team injured playing coming through it... because its aimed at the kids not anything else.

I think you really should concentrate on more important things!
David Thomas
2   Posted 15/09/2010 at 16:23:02

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I know on this site the common theme is to moan about everything the club does but surely this is scraping the barrel.
Helikaon Bow
3   Posted 15/09/2010 at 16:35:38

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He has made an excellent point. With that team we should have beaten them easily.
David Price
4   Posted 15/09/2010 at 16:59:33

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Come on Jamie, name the team for the next reserve game and formation please, we need change and we need it now !!!
Ste Lewis
5   Posted 15/09/2010 at 17:02:08

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Interestingly Coleman played infront of Neville in right midfield. Don't know how he did mind as I didnt go but it shows this idea could be being considered.
David Thomas
6   Posted 15/09/2010 at 17:04:27

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I think a new thread needs to be started "Has Alan Stubbs taken us as far as he can?"
Chris Keightley
7   Posted 15/09/2010 at 17:07:48

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To be fair, he has a point; it was a strong line-up, maybe they were taking it easy as a few may feature at some point on Saturday. If anything, it shows that, although we have the numbers, we may not have the depth of quality.
Mike McLean
8   Posted 15/09/2010 at 17:24:34

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Stubbs OUT!!!
Dennis Stevens
9   Posted 15/09/2010 at 17:25:17

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Does Stubbsy drive the mini-bus, David? Have the Board invested in a decent vehicle & is it adequately equpped (sat-nav, etc.)? Somebody should start a petition!
Robert Daniels
10   Posted 15/09/2010 at 17:26:49

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I heard he didn't make a substitution until 20 mins to go!!!
David Thomas
11   Posted 15/09/2010 at 17:34:49

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"Does Stubbsy drive the mini-bus, David?"

Your guess is as good as mine to be honest. Your best ringing the club up for that sort of information.
Ray Roche
12   Posted 15/09/2010 at 17:43:52

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It's Hibbert's fault.
Thomas Christensen
13   Posted 15/09/2010 at 19:52:53

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I think Hibbert, Osman and Distin are all clearly at fault for this.

On a slightly more serious note, let us not forget that many of the '1st teamers' named in that reserve game have not played a lot of football together, or indeed this season! Neville, Yak and Gueye for example.

Lets stay off Stubbs' back!
Michael Brien
14   Posted 15/09/2010 at 20:31:41

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When I was a kid back in the 1960's I used to go to quite a lot of Reserve Team matches - my 1st season ticket back in 1966-67 was the start of it as with a season ticket you were entitled to admission to all home Reserve Team games.

One of the ways to counter the spending power of the Sky 4 or 5 whatever it is these days is to have a good youth development/academy set up - and the Reserves should be a part of that.

I want ALL Everton teams to win. Realistically every team loses - what was the West Ham line up ? It seems to me that you are using a Reserve Team defeat to have a cheap shot at some of the players. I thought the back handed compliment to Coleman was a particularly clear example of this. I rate the lad as a very promising talent - a potential future international player. Not a saviour/messiah simply a player who could prove to be a real "bargain" signing and save us several million.

The up and coming players at Everton deserve support and encouragement not pathetic minded jibes.

Michael Brien
15   Posted 15/09/2010 at 20:42:37

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That should read "every team loses sometimes" - perhaps Jamie if you take a close look at most of the League Tables at the end of the season you would find very few teams with a 0 under the L column.
Kevin Spencer
16   Posted 15/09/2010 at 23:02:31

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That was indeed a bad result. With those players, we sure should have won.

But I can't figure out, why the reserve team is made up by youngsters only (normally). Aren't there any youth league or something? I believe the reserve team is perfectly suited for the first team players that can't really get in the team, or those players that haven't played as much, to catch up in match fitness.

For example. Let's pretend everyone is fit and not out on loan, and the players that didn't start against Man Utd was given a chance to shine for the reserves. We could have a team looking like this:

Coleman Yobo Duffy Neville
Anichebe Rodwell Bilyaletdinov Gueye
Yakubu Beckford / Vaughan

Wouldn't this be a better way to keep the players fit instead of warming the bench and letting the kids play for the reserves. Let them play in some kind of youth league instead.
Joel Webb
17   Posted 15/09/2010 at 23:32:14

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Too many Stubbs apologists on here!
Gary Hegarty
18   Posted 16/09/2010 at 07:37:08

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Why don't we just do what Keegan did at Newcastle and close the reserve team down - that worked wonders for all the kids coming through up there!!!
Simon Williams
19   Posted 16/09/2010 at 11:23:02

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@ Joel Webb: hahahaha, very good!
Charles King
20   Posted 16/09/2010 at 22:12:42

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Surely judgement should be "RESERVED" 'till 10 games have gone.

2 for 1 there......."that's asda price!"

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