I won't be looking at the league table this week, apparently it doesn't lie. Chris Perry was accused of being insane when he dared to criticize the mighty Moyes on another post. Actually insane might be better applied to those who, pre-season, talked not only of Champions League qualification but of winning the league. Some people even bet on it.
We have been told that David Moyes has assembled the best squad for years. That might well be true... but when one looks at the league table, one must conclude that something else is wrong. In my view, the heart of what is wrong at the club is the Moyes ? Kenwright double act.
David Moyes signed a vastly inflated contract, way over what his achievements warranted. His brief seems to have been, keep us in the Premier League, look happy at our lack of investment, and keep your mouth shut. Bill Kenwright continues to live the dream on the cheap. His loyalty to his manager is admired and many (not so many on this website) are thankful that he has stopped us from being Leeds or Portsmouth. Meanwhile many Evertonians are grateful to both of them.
I don't like the term 'apologist' but surely no-one can defend that shambles today. In my opinion, one cannot attack Kenwright and defend Moyes at the same time. Kenwright is an incompetent chairman and Moyes is a vastly overpaid and overrated coach. He is dour, unimaginative and unsophisticated.
Mutual admiration between a coach and chairman is unhealthy and unhelpful. This double act can take the club no further.
Andy Crooks, Posted 18/09/2010 at 17:39:36
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1 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:17:53
Not only no further but we're going backwards, actually we've been slipping into reverse since we came 4th.
2 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:23:23
3 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:25:37
4 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:27:26
5 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:27:26
6 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:19:59
Kenwright, you've fucked this club up, you will be remembered as the man who destroyed an institution. >You have turned us into a club that the media, and almost every fucking fan from other clubs, perceive as a small club. The demise of our club under your fucking guidance is a disgrace.
We should be challenging for our tenth title, not fighting relegation. You have divided the fan base, you have surrounded yourself with yes men, you fucked up the Kings Dock, cos you're a fuckin liar. You tried to sell us all out by moving us to Kirkby.
YOU sold Rooney.
Blue Bill, FUCK OFF NOW, FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CLUB!!!
7 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:35:31
8 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:33:00
9 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:38:18
Moyes and Kenwright just do enough to win the duck, all the time!
10 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:39:48
Bring in Martin O'Neill while he's still available.
11 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:42:59
I would love Martin Jol in charge, good coach and tactician, maybe he will teach our side that we need to score more goals than the opposition to win, rather than "It's 0-0 at the start, we've got a point here, boys ? let's keep hold of it."
Moyes lacks the killer instinct; when we have the chance to really press home advantages in certain games and really crush the opposition 4 or 5 nil when we are 2-0 up.
Imagine a team that is short of strikers letting their fittest striker go out on loan, God help the Moyesiah.
12 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:42:36
Today's tactics and substitutions were on a par with the worst days of the Walter Smith regime. Again, only one striker up front at home to average opposition, and a striker who looks totally out of his depth at this level, but you can't blame Beckford for not producing ? he has come from two divisions below the Premier League for Christ's sake!
So we are being out-played, out-thought and out-fought against a piss poor Newcastle team and everyone is crying out for changes at half-time. And what does the 'Moyesiah' produce? Take off your striker and replace with a different one; take off your right back and replace with a different one ? never mind the fact we are playing with a centre back in midfield and Leon Osman continues his wretched performances on the wing. Carry on the 4-5-1 approach and dont even think about maybe playing two strikers when you are losing at home...
It's baffling.. and if I woke up to reports tomorrow morning of Moyes being sacked or resigning ? I would bloody love it.
13 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:57:52
Well done for expressing what I think a lot of us are feeling at the moment.
If I had tried to do that it just would have degenerated into an expletive filled rant!
14 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:01:33
15 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:03:21
So we can play the Villa way that we've despised for years.
16 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:02:29
17 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:54:42
I completely agree with Andrew McGreavy ? Martin Jol would be a good replacement.
18 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:09:53
Something has got to change the Yak looks so overweight and I dont know how this has been allowed straight after pre-season.
they say insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results and how many times have we seen osman and hibbert on the right together, Gueye and Vaughan would atleast be something different.
I am totally fed up.
19 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:10:50
Davey has served us well and loyally for 8 years and we`ve hardly had a blip.With BB`s faith in a great manager,we`ll get over this start to claim a top ten slot....at least!
20 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:13:57
21 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:06:58
It's Moyes who picks the side and it's him who has to shoulder his actions.
I don't understand some of the baffling decisions he makes regarding players. Why on earth has he let Vaughan go out on loan when we have no strikers fit.
Whats the story with playing players out of position all the time.
I sense something is not right in the dressing room.Pinnears contract wrangle could perhaps have something to do with it,i don't know,I'm guessing,any excuse i can dream up for this terrible start.
The confidence is low,and the league cup game is now huge.
22 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:08:25
Some people seem fearful of a new manager saying "if not Moyes then who"?
But remember Moyes in terms of being a premiership manager was a nobody when he took over but to some now hes the untouchable Messiah.
Moyes deserves praise and has received many accolades himself which have somewhat maybe exaggerated how good he is. From afar his work seems outstanding but if you follow Everton daily as we all do we all know it's never been plain sailing under Moyes. Strops, sulks, the contract saga, crisis team meetings yo-yo seasons.
Your only as good as your last game and our last 5 have been fucking shocking.
So why not take chance on something different this website is getting a s erious case of deja-vu as its the same shite we discuss all the time. A lot of mangers would love to work with this squad.
The squad has outgrown/outclassed him. His style of management may suit certain workman like players but in a squad with Arteta, Pienaar, Fellaini, Heitinga etc he doesn't know how to use or utilise such players. He would be happier with players more on his level e.g. Neville, Hibbert and Osman hard honest grafting players.
Tactically we need a new dimension a brave new dawn. We battered Villa and Newcastle for 45 mins after going a goal down but why not start matches like this?
David well done I appreciate your efforts, but to move forward you as a manger must step back.
23 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:30:15
So Ian #18, which of Gueye or Vaughan (who is playing for Crystal Palace at the moment incedentally) would you have as right back?
24 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:35:45
25 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:40:16
I'm just as frustrated as you guys today.
I'll save my Moyes out comments until after we do our inevitable bi-annual roll over in the Merseyside Derby in a few weeks time.
26 Posted 18/09/2010 at 19:43:02
Now here is the killer line and an insight into Moyes mind. The General retorts ah but dont you see doing the same thing we have done the last fourteen times, is the last thing the opposition will expect us to do.
Swap the trenches of the Great War for Finch Farm on a Monday and Round saying to Moyes, Gaffer do you think we might possibly play somebody other than Osman on the right hand side?
Moyes is not a stupid man but the continued baffling selction of his favourites regardless of their current form is now beyond a joke.
27 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:02:53
Likes pacey players and uses two wingers! I can't remember the last time I saw Moyes sign a genuine winger. O wait yes I can. Shandy!
28 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:07:03
29 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:08:23
30 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:17:01
As for today, I'd like to know where Arteta spent the afternoon; why Hibbert was replaced by an inexperienced defender whose much vaunted abilty to charge forward was completely negated (by instruction from the bench?); and why Osman is still allowed to turn out every week at the expense of Bily who, God knows, needs a decent run of games???
Relying on Cahill each week to ruffle the opposition's feathers and hope to play the last minute Get Out of Jail card is simply not good enough. And does Heitinga have a '70 minutes only' clause in his contract?
31 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:27:56
Declan Brown "That speaks volumes in my book. I couldn't even think of any instant names to replace him with."
Make your mind up man! Have you taken your scitzo drugs yet!
32 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:26:00
33 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:30:27
34 Posted 18/09/2010 at 18:27:26
35 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:28:26
1. Heitinga is another Tommy Grav, all fists and waves, but definitely not a tough ball-winning defensive midfield player. I didn't see him tackle anyone today.
2. Fellaini was touted by our manager before his injury last season as the best midfielder in his position in the country... so why isn't he being played in that position.?He is wasted playing behind the striker.
3. If Arteta drops any deeper, he may as well play instead of Howard.
4. We have had a midfield 5 who would all consider themselves central midfield players. No width, for god's sake ? give Gueye a chance, or try Coleman wide right.
5. It wouldn't matter if we played Dixie up front at the moment, the service is abysmal, slow and oh so predictable.
Time for the manager to earn his salary and show some inventive team selection, put players in their proper positions, and realise that some players just ain't good enough.
36 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:43:17
37 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:59:45
It wasn't that he 'dared to criticize' Moyes, almost all of us have done that at some point or another, it was the scope, depth and style of his criticisms that drew the reaction.
38 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:50:40
On here the usual suspects will be getting a slaughtering.
Hibbo- Played well today and the cross that Jags did not score with was superb. The player Giggs hacked down last week. I think Ossie was kept on to cover for SC being AWOL today.
Distin- Aside from fella wasMOM. Well done.
Distribution from the back is awfull. Stubbs perfected the 60 yard cross field ball to no one and even if they were there-its not easy to control-even for a top player, so now Jags and Distin try. And you all slaughtered Joey. Are they being coached on this skill (skill the 60 yarder)??
Taliking of long balls - why cant the goalie kick the ball where he wants it to go?
Up front is comedy except it is so sad.
Fella is a great player and him and Jack need to be CM ( i know JR is injured)
But my point is - TH LO PN get it every week. (so does TC)
Why oh why are JH and MA imune from comment. They are bone idle and a disgrace. JH bottles out of most 50 50s i assume no one saw him give up for United 1st last week. I assume no one saw him "tackle Saha" for Wolves goal, but pull out of the big tackle on the Wolves guy. Today he was awfull and gets away with it. At least Moyes saw it. If he is sulking about not being CB, reality, against the Crouch types he will be lost.
MA- the best little Spaniard-have a laugh. Against non physical none top teams he is great. Assuming you ignore free kicks and corners-why does he take them? See Bartons corners today. (BTW- How many 50 50s did he win against Barton?)
Call PIP, and i dont think he is good enough, but last week wher was MA charging around hyping the players up-and dont quote the miss hit deflceted shot- screeching imploring more off his team. Where was he today- Our players are in Blue.
Sorry to rant, but i get a bit fed up of others continuously having a go at the easy targets while the likes of PJ MA JH seem imune
39 Posted 18/09/2010 at 20:59:02
40 Posted 18/09/2010 at 21:00:36
If that is not obvious to everyone yet then the blue tinted glasses must be navy blue....Our club is happy to obtain 40 points a season and so long as the fans do not demand better BK will spend nothing !!
Fellaini was a desperation, last minute buy after funds for Arshevin and Moutinho purchases were not provided and the fans were becoming very restless.
A few seasons ago we had a bench which was likened to a creche due to lack of foresight and proper planning.
Why do we go on pre-season trips to Oz and the USA when we should be playing good opposition in europe.
We ALWAYS start slowly and even though we have our best squad (bought on the cheap or home grown) for years it is apparant that every other club has improved....I have not seen any really poor teams like Pompey and Sunderland of the past so far this season.
I can see a dogfight looming if something is not done to correct our slump and that means strengthening in January by SPENDING some money.
I do not accept that we are as broke as people seem to believe...spend some of the money wasted on trips abroad for all and sundry on players and stop the stupidity of letting Gosling go for free....otherwise we will struggle to maintain our supposed progress.
Too many of our fans see our players as a match for all the top teams in the league....but the table does not lie and we have drawn with and been beaten by teams we should expect to beat if we are able to produce any semblance of success this season.
41 Posted 18/09/2010 at 21:14:10
42 Posted 18/09/2010 at 21:14:32
Seamus will play!!!
43 Posted 18/09/2010 at 21:26:02
44 Posted 18/09/2010 at 21:35:26
45 Posted 18/09/2010 at 21:35:05
46 Posted 18/09/2010 at 21:33:32
In all honesty i can't think of anyone i would have managing us at the minute who would want to come to us. Martin Jol, Martin O'Neill, we've no chance there.
I'm angry today, i like Moyes as a man, but i'm still angry after today's match, cometh the Merseyside Derby surrender that anger will be much much worse.
If Moyes goes then my attitude will be thanks Davey, good luck. To surrender them bas*ards in the way we do under Moyes, alone, warrants the sack in my book, it's the first two games the players should be absolute in their willingness to die for the cause / shirt.
I've written loads of comments on here about how much i hate the way we surrender in the Merseyside Derby's to that lot with such ease and that really grates on me more than any fixture during the season.
As i said i'm holding fire for a few weeks until the Merseyside Derby, because that is a good game to judge Moyes' tactics and how much the players really want to do it for us.
We get hammered in the Derby i'll be doing an article (like i've done in previous seasons) calling for his head.
47 Posted 18/09/2010 at 21:33:30
Even if we get mullered by Brentford,Billy Bullshit not sack his lap dog Moyes. Do anyone believe he will get rid and risk acquiring a manager that will put his foot down and DEMAND transfer funds? I don't.
In any case it should be Kenwrong first out the door. And he can take his yes men in the boardroon and that excuse for a CEO with him.
48 Posted 18/09/2010 at 22:14:34
If they don't play for the rest of the season we might just catch them.
49 Posted 18/09/2010 at 22:22:51
50 Posted 18/09/2010 at 22:39:57
And the idea that we have been in reverse ever since we finished 4th is amusing. We scraped over the line for 4th for the simple reason that mediocrity reigned below the top 3. We hung on by our finger nails, had a negative goal difference and lost 7-0 at Arsenal. We have matched or exceeded our 4th place points tally on 3 occasions since. So, however bad we are right now, and we are very very bad, let's try & keep this serious.
Moyes still makes mistakes. Too many, it is becoming increasingly clear. It often seems that when things go really well it is almost in spite of him, rather than down to him.
51 Posted 18/09/2010 at 23:18:55
Just seen the NUFC goal on MOTD,
how would comments be if Leon Tony Phil Billy Distin Yobo Pistone or Unsworth had marked or tackled the second best player on the pitch so well and tightly? (Barton was the best for those that have any eye for football)
Course it was JH so it does not matter.
52 Posted 18/09/2010 at 23:55:18