I have just read Sylvain Distin on the icliverpool site and almost cried with laughter and despair at the same time.
He says 'We were disappointed with The Carling Cup but there is only so much you can do.'
No, Sylvain there is more. You can win! It is not like we lost to Barcelona on penalties after a valiant away leg is it? How much does he get paid for that attitude?
The defeat was clearly not the fault of the team. Take a walk along with your boss.
Rob Hollis, Posted 27/09/2010 at 23:10:00
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1 Posted 28/09/2010 at 03:44:37
2 Posted 28/09/2010 at 04:43:38
3 Posted 28/09/2010 at 06:39:30
I don't feel sick when Distin's on the ball, i feel sick when Jags is on the ball. When Jags is on the ball only one of two things will happen...1. He Hoofs it as per usual or 2. He has a howler and gives it to an opposition defender who is free on goal.
4 Posted 28/09/2010 at 07:45:25
5 Posted 28/09/2010 at 08:04:16
You are plain wrong. Against Newcastle it was like Distin was our bloody playmaker everything was going through him and he was spraying shit balls left right and centre.
It's time to make a choice sell him in January at a loss or sacrifice him on the pitch 4 christmas!
6 Posted 28/09/2010 at 08:21:36
7 Posted 28/09/2010 at 08:25:43
8 Posted 28/09/2010 at 08:26:16
9 Posted 28/09/2010 at 09:22:11
10 Posted 28/09/2010 at 09:51:50
I might add that our defense has let in 7 goals (3 against man u). That's comfortably in the top half. Whereas our attack has only scored 4 goals. That's comfortably in the relgation zone.
Its clear where our deficiencies lie this season, so lets not just slag the whole team off irrespective. Its not helpful.
11 Posted 28/09/2010 at 10:45:38
So you'd rather have Jagielka on the ball? He cant pass wind.
12 Posted 28/09/2010 at 10:53:22
13 Posted 28/09/2010 at 11:00:08
14 Posted 28/09/2010 at 11:03:39
It is nothing to do with his playing, I think he is OK. It is the attitude regarding being dumped out of a cup by a pub team.
15 Posted 28/09/2010 at 11:53:57
I was referring to Rob # 5 and Peter # 3. and generally just don't get why so many think Jagielka is any good.
Agree with you re Distin's attitude. Perhaps he's repeating dressing room talk. Sadly tho, a few pub teams ( B'burn Wolves, B'tford) have done for us so far this season so maybe our team arent up to finding a solution.
16 Posted 28/09/2010 at 13:14:19
When it's Jags one-on-one with someone, I feel pretty confident that he'll win the ball but when it's Distin, I feel sick!
Also you mention Jags' one-off howler.. what about Distin's three against United that led to 3 goals being conceded and his countless other howlers? Like not putting his foot through a back pass and waiting till the player was in our area to bring him down etc.
He seems like a grade a bellend as well after that remark.
17 Posted 28/09/2010 at 13:58:36
It's quite ironic though how a lot of people are quick to jump to Jags defence (pun intended) but yet when the same argument is used for Hibbert it doesn't hold the same weight.
18 Posted 28/09/2010 at 14:10:37
19 Posted 28/09/2010 at 14:18:34
This was aimed at a team who had previously been dumped out of a competition by a team I actually don't know what league they are in.
20 Posted 28/09/2010 at 14:21:46
We lost against Villa,Blackburn and drew against Wolves and Utd and every single goal was blatant bad defending of the highest order.
Our defence managed a clean sheet for once on Saturday against a team with their whole strikeforce out.
This shite start is down to the lot of them and the manager.
21 Posted 28/09/2010 at 14:25:59
We should sign Brett Angell.
22 Posted 28/09/2010 at 14:29:40
23 Posted 28/09/2010 at 14:32:53
24 Posted 28/09/2010 at 14:30:57
Let them have the ball ? they don't hurt you ? and then we will have a fast direct break and score.
Yes we will turn it around, but the damage has been done already.
25 Posted 28/09/2010 at 14:43:48
We've only conceded 7, and 3 of those were against Utd. 4 scored tells its own story.
26 Posted 28/09/2010 at 15:20:31
We have frequently looked quite 'nice' but we have hardly been jumping out of our seats with a series of near misses have we?
All a bit toothless so far and I can't see the strikers have had much chance or support.
27 Posted 28/09/2010 at 15:22:42
28 Posted 28/09/2010 at 16:00:44
Osman had one good season for Everton, scoring some nice goals. But he' s too lighweight and generally lacks speed to compensate. I would not play him in the first 11. I would rather have Bily on either of the sides, or Coleman, perhaps.
What I don't understand is the massive critizism Hibbert is given. Year after year. I agree he's not a top-shelf player. But then, who is? Hibbert is reasonably fast, good pace and an excellent tackler and defender. Ok, he has lacks, bad crosses, no goals. But he gives his best, and his job is mostly in defending.
Our lack in the game is not really in the defense department. So even if we don't care too much about Distin, and want him on the bench (at best) our real problems are more in the midfield and forward section. The inability to score goals.
We have't been overrun by any teams. Really. We have not. We had possession and most of the games (except ManU) we've been the better team. Except for the scoring bit, though.
How to fix? Hire a special coach, responsible for attacking moves and attacking abilities. Clearly Moyes has no clue when it comes to attacking, but he's good in many other ways. I don't want to get rid of Moyes.
And maybe we need some cash for new goalgetter? But I would think a man with a special responsibility for our attack would do?
29 Posted 28/09/2010 at 18:23:41
Perhaps!? An obstinate Moyes would have heard the view that Coleman was the best choice for RM weeks ago. But no-one can tell Davey anything. It only looks like when he's had no other choice has he relented and played Coleman.
His 4-5-1 at home has been shameful. It's at home he should have played Beckford along with the Yak. This would have given defenders something bigger to think about, would have been better for Beckfords confidence and probably yielded a greater crop of goals since, yes, the team has been playing well in the middle third of the field, but 500 passes in the middle third with no end result seems to have got us where we currenly hang our hat.
Me i'm 53 (going on 19) OI! I heard that you lot. But I dont want to spend the next twenty years looking at shite starts to the season and then the rest of the season playing catch up.
I want to see some bollox by management I want to see the manager recognise the creativity within our squad, I want to see the board sorting things out so we're not bored.
Anyone remember when we came forth? Cos I do. For the last eight or nine games at the end the way we were playing all I could ever check out was how the teams below us were doing. Reason, those last games were dreadful, we couldn't win a fuckin argument.
Someone said somewhere that no team had any profit getting rid of their manager as a knee jerk reaction and i'll go with that. BUT, how many teams where the boss, when in a downward spiral of play tactics, bad team selection ever won anything with that same team.
I hate the term "gone as far as he can take us" it's just so Jamie Red. But after eight years plus we need a fresh injection of managerial ideas.
I dont want to have my family around my bedside waiting for the end and all I can think about is that my beloved EFC since 1995 didn't win a fuckin thing.
30 Posted 28/09/2010 at 20:43:05
31 Posted 28/09/2010 at 22:00:49
'We went into this season with high hopes, something to be honest Evertonians don't usually do.'
Actually, sunshine, we do. It is why we buy the bloody tickets. Why don't you? You think the manager is amazing and you do your best to make the signings he wants and YOU are in overall charge.
I don't usually worry about the chairman but such motivation must have inspired Sylvain to make his comments. I am starting to lose the will to live.
32 Posted 29/09/2010 at 03:43:47
33 Posted 29/09/2010 at 09:51:16
And of course I'm delighted we're bottom of the league!
Distin is no world beater and Yes, I'd rather see an in-form Heitinga start. But barring Man U he has been a decent in a defense that has conceded 4 goals in 5 games.
Our biggest problems are further up the pitch. Evidently.
34 Posted 29/09/2010 at 09:15:40
I will let you into a little secret: getting angry and typing angry posts doesn't make the overpaid plebs in the middle play any better.
35 Posted 29/09/2010 at 10:50:35
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