Does anyone know when the tranches of Sky TV money are paid? I think it's obvious that we didn't pull our usual last-minute 'rabbit out of the hat' transfer at the start of this season because the Sky money is not dished out in one lump sum like in previous seasons.
So it got me thinking, would we rather the money that we've received so far, or may become due by the next transfer window, be used to increase Pienaar's salary and so get him signed up to another 4~5 years?
Or say sod him, he can go for free in the summer and we'll use the money for someone (eg, Donovan) in January?
Eric Myles, Posted 01/10/2010 at 05:24:38
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1 Posted 01/10/2010 at 06:25:20
I think it's safe to say Pienaar will be off on a freebie, sadly.
2 Posted 01/10/2010 at 06:31:10
Here is a thought though... Everton toured the states last pre-season, played some teams, and Peterlin was sent over to us. Now Peterlin has gone, it's made me wonder if the Landon deal was money driven? A sort of MLS sending their biggest asset to the Premier League, World Cup year, just to get exposure. The deal may have been in place a while ago and then it all triggered when e.g, we stayed in Europe.
Just another way of looking at things guys, because Landon is untouchable now and Bill does seem to do these types of deals behind the scenes.
3 Posted 01/10/2010 at 06:55:04
4 Posted 01/10/2010 at 07:36:42
5 Posted 01/10/2010 at 08:18:41
6 Posted 01/10/2010 at 08:41:43
7 Posted 01/10/2010 at 08:46:56
8 Posted 01/10/2010 at 09:52:18
9 Posted 01/10/2010 at 09:54:40
10 Posted 01/10/2010 at 10:18:51
It's a certainty that he's going, the only surprise given our current 'business model', is that it wasn't last summer.
It's now in his interests to keep his performances good ( as on a free he'll get a bigger signing on fee if his value is high ) & this is what he's delivered so far.
11 Posted 01/10/2010 at 12:10:49
I must be watching a different game to you. He was one of our best players against Manchester United and seems to be one of the only players at the moment who when he gets the ball tries to move the play up the field as quick as possible.
Whether he is playing like this in order to put himself in the shop window for January, i don't know, and i guess that is a debate for another day.
12 Posted 01/10/2010 at 12:37:48
We do not have any better players than Pienaar nor any that show more committment on the pitch.
I really fail to see anything to substantiate your view other than you are pissed off he has not signed another contract.
13 Posted 01/10/2010 at 13:04:30
14 Posted 01/10/2010 at 12:58:30
15 Posted 01/10/2010 at 13:11:25
16 Posted 01/10/2010 at 13:10:46
I hold my hands up.
17 Posted 01/10/2010 at 13:53:32
18 Posted 01/10/2010 at 13:40:22
As for Pienaar, I don't think anyone can still doubt his value to the team. He was our best player last season and has been amongst the better of an otherwise shaky side this.
To question his character because he hasn't signed a contract is bang out of order. I wish he'd sign too, but the fact he hasn't (and probably won't it seems) should not let us question his ability, or attitude.
Sadly, it happens, and if the club don't offer him at least parity with Arteta (or slightly less), then they are to blame if a scapegoat there must be. Pienaar always busts a gut, is always positive and tries to get us playing, and has always done thus. To suggest that he is suddenly now playing better to put himself in the shop window is also a little over the top.
Make no mistake, we will be a poorer team if he leaves.
I wish the bugger would smile more though or at least look happy :)
19 Posted 01/10/2010 at 13:59:14
20 Posted 01/10/2010 at 14:30:23
21 Posted 01/10/2010 at 14:33:00
22 Posted 01/10/2010 at 15:23:00
Don't get me wrong I want him to sign and stay because he is an intergral part of our side but I do think he is overhyped by some on here.
23 Posted 01/10/2010 at 15:27:42
24 Posted 01/10/2010 at 15:34:59
It would be a reasonable argument to say that for an attacking midfielder, scoring 9 goals in 90 appearances is not good enough, despite any amount of 'effort' put in - particularly for a player demanding better wages than he already gets.
25 Posted 01/10/2010 at 16:27:09
Pienaar has been our best player by miles, good workrate and aptitude.
In fact, I feel sorry and embarassed for him when some of our shite play leaves him frustrated. I have seen him look up to the heavens in dispair many times.
26 Posted 01/10/2010 at 16:31:32
27 Posted 01/10/2010 at 17:04:09
28 Posted 01/10/2010 at 20:21:45
29 Posted 01/10/2010 at 20:46:54
30 Posted 01/10/2010 at 22:06:59
31 Posted 01/10/2010 at 23:15:35
Do what it takes to keep him.
Sell Osman and Neville to finance the deal. Sell anybody. If he goes so does the left side and it is (other than during Landons stay) our most potent attacking weapon.
Baines and Pienaar is a match for any left side in the Prem. Other than Fellaini as a defensive mid I can't say that about any other part of the team.
32 Posted 02/10/2010 at 04:27:41
33 Posted 02/10/2010 at 09:27:59
Davey should have got rid in the summer Along with the Yak & Yobo who have looked finished with us for a long time now.
This would've given us a chance to freshen things up with some new faces with a point to prove. If not least in massive fees it would've left some room on the wages side.
I'll bet Moyes is also regretting that bumper contract for Saha.
David# 27 I think any sale of Billy would only get us 50% of any fee for Donovan, nobody else would pay 9m plus for him at the moment.
34 Posted 02/10/2010 at 11:13:19
Interesting... who are the rest of these top 5 since the last title? He wouldn't be anywhere near mine...
35 Posted 02/10/2010 at 12:17:14
36 Posted 02/10/2010 at 13:50:16
37 Posted 02/10/2010 at 20:21:26
1. Andrei Kanchelskis
2. Peter Beardsley
3. Mikel Arteta
4. Duncan Ferguson
5. Nigel Martyn
It's fairly obvious Pienaar is going. You would hope that the club are already scouting potential replacements.
38 Posted 03/10/2010 at 01:27:43
39 Posted 04/10/2010 at 02:15:12
40 Posted 04/10/2010 at 06:15:28
I think most of you are getting this all wrong. From what I've heard here in South Africa it's the term of the contract that Everton have offered Pienaar. Looks like Pienaar wants a 4- or 5-year deal and not the 2-year extension Moyes is offering.
The fact that the dude wants to sign long term already indicate his commitment to the club... I just hope this doesn't end up another Gosling mess-up!
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