I've just read on the notoriously ill-informed talksport website that Moyes is allegedly weighing up an option to swap Kranjcar for Pienaar in January.
I love Pienaar and my preferred outcome would be for him to sign a new contract and end his career here (or at least give us a good bargaining position in the summer). However, if we got Kranjcar in return, I'd see this as good business rather than lose him for nothing at the end of the season. I've always rated him and was disappointed when we didn't make a bid for him prior to his move from Pompey. He's got proven Premier League experience and is versatile.
Ben Howard, Posted 05/10/2010 at 16:09:05
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1 Posted 05/10/2010 at 16:40:21
2 Posted 05/10/2010 at 16:45:33
3 Posted 05/10/2010 at 16:51:01
4 Posted 05/10/2010 at 17:25:54
5 Posted 05/10/2010 at 17:29:10
Very close second would be this deal should it come off.
Kranjcar is a quality player!
6 Posted 05/10/2010 at 17:38:32
Straight swap would be good business.
7 Posted 05/10/2010 at 17:49:49
Think about it, Harry has been sniffing around Pienaar for a while, we are by common thread, short/lacking in the attacking department .
Spurs have a nice problem with four strikers, Defoe, Pav, Crouch and Keane. Easy to rotate in a long season when applying a 4-4-2. However Van Der Vaart has given Harry the Everton gene. It's 4-5-1 with V.D.V occupying the Cahill role and looking a superb signing.
So one striker plays leaving 3 others not too happy.
What happens next?
Would we take one of those and Kranjcar for Pienaar plus cash maybe?
Keeps our balance in midfield and increases our striking option.
Seal the deal in January with Donavon and no need to tinker in the summer unless they offer Huddlestone and Dawson for Rodwell.
Is this too far from reality? not saying it's an option i would like but it sounds feasible in the mad world of football transfers.
8 Posted 05/10/2010 at 18:40:27
If Pienaar wants to go,fine, but the last thing we need is a well-travelled mercenary such as Kranjcar.
Maybe Moyes should look to develop Gueye, Silva, Baxter or Wallace instead.
9 Posted 05/10/2010 at 18:54:26
Since we're not likely to get much money for Pienaar now (if he doesn't want to re-sign), seems like a decent and fairly plausible option to me.
10 Posted 05/10/2010 at 18:51:11
I wouldnt mind this deal, Kranjcar as more time on his side and it would be like for like as they play in the same position but i think Kranjcar is a quality player with a lot of good traites to his game. He's creative, got a good shot on him and he gets his fair share of goals and is decent at set plays too so he would be an handy player to have IMO.
I cant see Pienaar re-signing myself, he'll either go in january or sign a pre-contract agreement with someone so why not swap him for Kranjcar, Spurs want Pienaar, i dont think he will re-sign so get Kranjcar in return to take Pienaar's place in the side.
I understand your reasoning Kevin with wanting Moyes to bring on the likes of Gueye, Baxter, Wallace and Silva, although Silva is a striker and wouldnt be a replacement for Pienaar in midfield, but Kranjcar is 26 and already premier league proven quality and he would definitely be a good replacement/swap for Pienaar, a straight like for like in my eyes, there's plenty of time for our youngsters to come through and hopefully make there mark in the 1st team.
11 Posted 05/10/2010 at 19:22:35
(1) He's been at Spurs five minutes and wants a transfer.
(2) He walked out on Zagreb to defect to Hadjuk Split of all clubs..
Think Nick Barmby,Sol Campbell & Wayne Rooney - combined!
I'd rather blood a hungry youngster than indulge a luxury player in any case.
12 Posted 05/10/2010 at 19:35:49
13 Posted 05/10/2010 at 20:00:36
I rate Krancjar as a player but i doubt wether we would meet his wage demands.
As for the Pienaar saga- fuck it good player but little end result , Bily is the one Moyes needs to concentrate on as there is a hell of a player in there somewhere.
14 Posted 05/10/2010 at 20:10:38
15 Posted 05/10/2010 at 20:37:53
16 Posted 05/10/2010 at 20:55:10
17 Posted 05/10/2010 at 20:56:17
To me if we did this deal it would be win win all round as Spurs would get a player they want, Pienaar would probs get the wages he was after at us and also champions league footy and we get a like for like replacement who knows the league and wouldnt need time to settle and would fit right in, and he's a good player too which is all good.
18 Posted 05/10/2010 at 21:09:17
While I'd welcome Krancjar to the club, Harry Redknapp would be mad to swap him given the relative transfer values of the two players.
19 Posted 05/10/2010 at 21:11:33
20 Posted 05/10/2010 at 21:06:52
21 Posted 05/10/2010 at 22:00:16
22 Posted 05/10/2010 at 22:30:09
Wrong type of player for us right now.
We need a player in the mould of Donovan or even Coleman who is prepared to run at players and get behind defences and get crosses in or score.
Now if Aaron Lennon was mooted that would be a different story but we need a goalscorer not another apology for Arteta.
23 Posted 05/10/2010 at 23:56:34
24 Posted 06/10/2010 at 04:35:32
25 Posted 06/10/2010 at 04:38:42
It's not just agents who make money out of transfers!
26 Posted 06/10/2010 at 09:28:16
Wouldn't mind having Krancjar in the squad though.
27 Posted 06/10/2010 at 11:50:29
I'd say probably 80% squad at Spurs is on £60k plus... Therein lies the problem and the difference between the 2 clubs at the moment.. Pienaar is a much better player than Krancjar but we are now at a stage where we about to lose him for nothing!!!
28 Posted 06/10/2010 at 13:16:32
1. He is a genuine wide player
2. He has pace - relative to the rest of our team
3. He can be billiantly creative
4. He can cross the ball
5. He is English
29 Posted 06/10/2010 at 14:30:57
Plus, as you say, where would they play him anyway!?
Kranjcar to us would be a great move IMO.
30 Posted 06/10/2010 at 16:16:05
'I'd say probably 80% squad at Spurs is on £60k plus'
What evidence do you have for this?
from this article :http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/aug/02/pre-season-preview-aston-villa
'Villa's wage bill increased alarmingly, by 42%, to £71m (£11m more than Tottenham and £21m more than Everton)'
So spurs have a wage bill 10mil* greater than ours (as of 2009, soyes changeswill have hapened, but we have increased ours as have they, so its a decent inddication) Considerring they have considerably more players than usincluddng 4 top range strikers, then I would assume their wages are probably quite similar to ours, if 80% of their team was on 60k+ then their wage bill would beconsiderrably higher than it is.
*10mil is more or less 5 players on 20k a week,
31 Posted 06/10/2010 at 18:05:14
32 Posted 06/10/2010 at 21:59:26
I could use the arguement that with Krankjaer not playing, he may be willing totakea pay-cut or remain on is current wages due to get first team football He surelyd doesnt want to lose hisplace in the croatia team.
I could also say he's a a greedy git, who will want 70k a week.
But all of these is just speculation based on nothing but red-top, page filling new....sorry bullshit.
I just wanted to point out your suggestion that 80% of spurs squad are on 60k+ a week is most probably inaccurate.
33 Posted 06/10/2010 at 23:34:02
Asked if Kranjcar was still part of his plans, Redknapp told Spurs' official twitvid page today: "I love Niko.
"Gareth Bale's been playing so well - what can you do?
"Niko likes to play off the left, really; he's not so happy on the right.
"You couldn't meet a better boy and he's a fantastic footballer, good pro, just gets on with it.
"If they were all like Niko, it'd be an easy job, this. He comes out every day, wants to work. He's not a problem."
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