Every team has one or two bad patches within a season, whether you're challenging for Europe or the title.
We are looking like we're on our way out of this slump: three clean sheets and 7 points out of the last three games is pretty good form, so 3 very possible points against Spurs, especially after last night, leaves us two points behind Spurs who are joint second!
I for one think it's possible if we are top 6 and within reach of fourth in January especially with our usual strong finish!
Chris Hannon, Posted 21/10/2010 at 14:54:22
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1 Posted 21/10/2010 at 17:34:37
But yes, of course it's possible.
We're only five points behind the ailing Mancs, with 30 games to go...
Made me laugh last week when I read in one of the allegedly more respectable Sunday papers that had they not beaten Birmingham, Arsenal's title challenge would have been over!
Plenty of time for us to make up for our poor start, but still going to be one or two setbacks along the way.
So just hope the 'doom & gloom/Moyes & Kenwright out' brigade don't start bellyaching again if we don't get anything on Saturday.
After the progress we have made in the last three games, it's time to take a longer-term view.
2 Posted 21/10/2010 at 18:34:31
3 Posted 21/10/2010 at 18:48:01
The Yak is looking better, but the goals still haven't came for him yet. And I still haven't heard anything about the injuries to Arteta, Heitinga, Osman, or Pienaar. I think after another couple of months we'll be able to answer this question better, especially with Rodwell and Fellaini returning.
4 Posted 21/10/2010 at 18:58:16
I would say it is realistically possible for us to finish anywhere from 15th to 2nd. I think we'll be somewhere between 7th and 3rd.
5 Posted 21/10/2010 at 19:22:44
I can see the 4th place team this season only attaining about 60 points.
6 Posted 21/10/2010 at 19:22:16
There are more than 4 clubs better than us in the Premier League at the moment ? therefore I'm going to say No.
A single swallow does not a summer make.
7 Posted 21/10/2010 at 19:17:16
In fact just keep us ticking over nicely till then.
At this point DM must hassle BK for some decent money to buy a high quality stricker. Also sort out (if no money left after buying said striker) a loan deal for Landon. If pos. get the two.
If we can do that and we can get lucky with our injuries then I would say i'd go with my pre season euphoric thoughts of finishing third.
One can dream.
8 Posted 21/10/2010 at 19:38:39
9 Posted 21/10/2010 at 20:08:06
No Fellaini or Rodwell means Heitinga needs to improve. Otherwise, we won't dominate midfield as much.
We can only hope that the Yak is back. Had we had a strong stiker, we'd have beaten Villa by a mile. That and the daft goal conceded at Blackburn made us look a lot worse than we are. We should have 13 points.
But without a striker, there is no chance. Man City have so much, and Spurs have three or four strikers. We cannot live with that. Under Moyes we punch above our weight ? cliché, but true. Get 6th and we should be happy until we get strength in each and every position.
The emergence of Yak and Coleman in the past few games gives some hope; but for 5th or 6th, no more.
10 Posted 21/10/2010 at 20:19:12
11 Posted 21/10/2010 at 20:21:14
All of this is theory, and we can think our way into heaven, if we want to. But to do so in real life is something else.
One can wish, fantasize and dream all day.
However, the hard facts speak of something else than Champions League. Come on. Face reality. We don't produce enough goals to compete in the top flight this year. Our squad is as almost every season hit by injuries. Top players want to leave. And there's no money man waiting with generous handouts.
I don't want to criticize Moyesy, Kenwright or the players. It's just how things are for us just now. Too many lacks generally in the club. Too many lacks when it come to reach into the top four.
And personally, I'll be hapy if we finish top 8 this year. I'll even see a top ten as a win. This is all because of the disastrous start to the season.
And I don't think our team is going to win like a juggernaut, like a team that never stops. We are just not there. Not now.
12 Posted 21/10/2010 at 20:32:57
I'm guessing the team will be the same as last weekend. Heitinga will be marking his fellow countryman and I'm sure Jagielka and Distin are capable of keeping Crouch quiet and I'm confident a right side of Neville and Coleman will limit Bale's chances. I go one-nil with the Yak to score ? and in line with the original article, yes we can make the CL.
3 points on Saturday ? then it's Stoke (home), Blackpool (away) and Bolton (home). Those 3 games are obviously winnable ? so that makes this Saturday's game as massive as last week's in terms of challenging for Europe.
13 Posted 21/10/2010 at 20:45:13
"So just hope the 'doom & gloom/Moyes & Kenwright out' brigade don't start bellyaching again if we don't get anything on Saturday"
Quite right too, nothing more annoying than people being wise after the event.
So I'll try and be wise before it.
It was great to beat them (always is!) and great to get a result against Birmingham.
It would also be great to tonk Spurs (and a draw wouldn't be bad) but if we do, let's hope the 'We're going to win the League 'BRIGADE' don't go OTT like they did before the season.
"After the progress we have made in the last three games, it's time to take a longer-term view".
Agreed; here's mine:
We will have injuries, we will no doubt have the Pienaar thing again in Jan, we will have bad luck, bad refs, we'll win a few, lose a few and draw a few.
We won't go down and we won't finish in a CL place or win the League.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong but it is not being a doom and gloom merchant to look at the present situation (manager, chairman, squad, money, PL, Sky, City, etc) and come to any other realistic conclusion.
In fact, anything else (ie: every "I really think we could win the title, I've just got a feeling") is just wishful thinking.
14 Posted 21/10/2010 at 21:13:55
Pienaar has his mysterious injury & will probably be gone in January anyway.
Yes, we may get Donovan then but it's too little, too late.
Could we have done it this year? Yes; but we didn't invest (as usual) and ? whilst it is a strange league at the moment ? Chelski, Man Shitty, The Arse & Spurs look too strong.
15 Posted 21/10/2010 at 21:44:50
16 Posted 21/10/2010 at 22:22:27
17 Posted 21/10/2010 at 23:10:20
18 Posted 21/10/2010 at 23:26:38
The Big Six!!!
19 Posted 21/10/2010 at 23:52:44
Every other season we have been running on empty for the run in.
In fact the only year we got 4th we were lucky that the RS had even worse form than us on the run in.
Assessing the teams by squad strength I would have to say:
5. Man U.
6. 7. and 8. a close run thing between Us, the RS, Villa and Sunderland.
We have won 2 games and kept 3 clean sheets but with the sparse squad and injuries mounting I believe our weaknesses in defence and attack may be exposed more then we would like over the next few months.
20 Posted 22/10/2010 at 01:35:10
21 Posted 22/10/2010 at 01:43:23
The rest is up for grabs and anybody's guess. People suggesting City will finish in the top 2 have had a rush of blood to the head!
22 Posted 22/10/2010 at 02:34:18
23 Posted 22/10/2010 at 02:43:40
24 Posted 22/10/2010 at 02:47:55
I really, really hope I'm wrong.
Here's to Hope!
25 Posted 22/10/2010 at 07:15:57
we can give it a go.
26 Posted 22/10/2010 at 07:45:58
Top 8 (as I've said repeatedly) would be a great finish for us given our team and resources.
27 Posted 22/10/2010 at 08:06:51
28 Posted 22/10/2010 at 09:00:46
29 Posted 22/10/2010 at 09:17:25
30 Posted 22/10/2010 at 09:19:51
Except Blackburn, Wolves and Newcastle were "obviously winnable" as well - and we had a fitter squad for those games!
We are too lightweight up front and too timid to go at the lesser teams. I'd say 6th is about right for us.
I doubt we will beat Spurs - they will have learned from past mistakes and Van Der Vart is capable of running a game like Fellaini should.
But hey, we beat the shite!
31 Posted 22/10/2010 at 09:26:16
Also, if he plays (and i suspect he will) how will Heitinga our (alleged) Dutch maestro compare to their Dutch maestro. Could be interesting.
And finally...........whatever did happen to Kyle Naughton....................such a watse.
32 Posted 22/10/2010 at 09:50:43
I'm bracing myself for the optimism to disappaear tomorrow afternoon with predictions of relegation again the hot topic.
33 Posted 22/10/2010 at 10:26:45
34 Posted 22/10/2010 at 12:18:18
35 Posted 22/10/2010 at 14:34:31
36 Posted 22/10/2010 at 20:23:40
Best we could hope for is the Europa league, but I suggest its a rather mute point..."and how do we get there with no strikers?" rings a bell to me.
Unless we get a miracle signing come January, I think perhaps a top 10 finish is about the best we can do considering the shit we are in with the squad..seriously no strikers (yak pleeeeze that clod couldnt hit a barn door 1 yard away, Saha not interested...yes its been a very long time since sick note scored, and then we have beckford..lets beat no bushes, id struggle to put him into our reserve team).
Vaughn back in January? I dunno but we need someone back urgently. Our problem is we are relying on a non striker, to get the goals who does get injured a fair bit..when he goes who then steps upto the plate? no one until he returns or arteta shows an appearance..for me top 10 is the most realistic right now
37 Posted 22/10/2010 at 20:31:37
Fella was an impulse buy to keep us quiet; he plays him out of position then out of sheer fucking luck he finds him the right position and he has a half decent season... what does Moyes do this year? Back to square one and plays him in the exact position he can't play in.
Bily, the sooner that useless muppet goes back to Russia the better... nowhere near Premier League quality.
So, yeah, let's give him another £26 million to blast on useless crap lol
38 Posted 22/10/2010 at 20:47:04
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