Some wins of late have brought out citicism of supporters who dare to question our displays ? as though the ends justify the means... absolutely monstrous! The present Everton way is meandering ? sometimes we're up for it; sometimes not.
When ahead, we tend to retreat rather than push on and whatever the merits of 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1 or any other bingo numbers, we are at heart a defensive team. The boy Coleman may suffer because of this as Beckford most certainly is; similarly Gueye, another forward, isn't getting a look in.
The fabled 10 game judgement period has come and gone, predictably we are in neither relegation nor european places and are out of one cup; and this is the rub: if Davey would just get someone in to talk attacking football, even on a short-term consultancy basis, I reckon we'd do much better and be more entertaining.
In my opinion, those giving blind support to what's happening play (or did play) in goal or defence and carry a deep-seated resentment against skilfull footballers. I might add without any false modesty I was a two-footed attacking midfielder of magnificent ability... think Cruyff when he was at it.
Leon Perrin, Posted 31/10/2010 at 18:55:06
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1 Posted 31/10/2010 at 21:45:16
It's one thing saying we are not an attacking team but it's a completely other thing when in fact we just don't have the goalscorer that £30m these days can buy.
Also it's obviously tit for tat Leon, the doomsayers were out in force after 4 games calling for the managers head and slating every single player on the pitch. If they can do it, why can't the opposite faction do it too?
10 games gone, we are 2 points from a Europe spot, 4 from the Champions league.....yeah it's grey skies all the way fella!!
2 Posted 31/10/2010 at 21:55:20
The turkey is not going to vote for Christmas...ever.
3 Posted 31/10/2010 at 22:15:49
Two things that still strike me and really get my goat though is this incessant defence of set pieces such as corners and free kicks with not a single blue shirt near the halfway line never mind past it, so if we get the ball and clear it, then lo and behold its coming right back again - has DM never fucking heard of counter attacking football?
The other and one which has stuck out like a sore thumb for some time is the constant "let's walk the ball through a crowded box into the net", surely we have at least one player out there who can put their bleeding laces through it from more than five yards? A hard shot into a crowded box might find the keeper unsighted or get a wicked deflection and into the net. Moyes needs to evolve as does his football.
4 Posted 31/10/2010 at 22:15:03
Back in the real world, I think Blackpool will be a very interesting game. They are a team that seems happy to throw men forward to attack rather than park the bus. I sincerely hope we try and combat this by throwing men forward ourselves and letting our superiour quality win us the game. A negative, defensive display, looking to nick it 1-0 will not do Moyes any favours. There seems to be an increasing number of fans who are getting more and more frustrated by our more often than not negative tactics - whether we win or not.
5 Posted 31/10/2010 at 22:17:52
I think you're right, I wish Moyes would take some advice of an attacking nature, off whom I'm not sure.
But he has many qualities, and I would just love it if he could just push us over the edge.
There'sno doubt in my mind of his honesty, and integrity, just wish he had a bit more balls at times to really go for it.
Btw, played a bit myself, and would describe myself as a Van den Hauwe/Maradonna... some said Madonna, but I don't agree, although I do believe she scored more than me!
6 Posted 31/10/2010 at 22:48:07
Completely agree with your second point, I am sick and tired of screaming "Hit it" at the match. It especially grates when Arteta mentioned Round telling him to put his laces through it on free kicks last season...or the one before.
7 Posted 31/10/2010 at 23:27:05
On a lighter note, my father always said to me 'a successful team is one which wins games when they play poorly.' i think this constitutes something along those lines. We play well and we win, we are happy. But to win a title, or even just finish high in the league, you have to win when you aren't playing well.
8 Posted 01/11/2010 at 00:10:31
9 Posted 31/10/2010 at 23:45:07
Sorry watching the NFL on BBC 1 (The Mississippi Oven Chips - V - The Boston Loud Pants or..something like that)
10 Posted 01/11/2010 at 00:52:48
Very funny. And accurate. We have the worst game announcers on earth. Especially the NFL.
11 Posted 01/11/2010 at 04:09:24
I'm all for the middle ground between heaven and hell, because that is where we are at Everton right now.
12 Posted 01/11/2010 at 09:21:27
13 Posted 01/11/2010 at 10:09:56
The fabled 10-season judgement period is approaching, predictably we are never league champions or cup-winners, and this is the rub: if Davey would just get someone in to talk attacking football, even on a short-term consultancy basis (say, four or five seasons), I reckon we'd do much better and be more entertaining...
14 Posted 01/11/2010 at 10:15:42
forgot to say: Eugene, your post gave me a much-needed good laugh, nice one!
15 Posted 01/11/2010 at 10:38:16
16 Posted 01/11/2010 at 10:57:49
17 Posted 01/11/2010 at 11:19:28
18 Posted 01/11/2010 at 12:26:53
It is such a tight league between 4th and 18th right now, had it not been for a split second of madness by Tim Howard against Spurs, we would be above them in the league (and still shown last on MOTD)
19 Posted 01/11/2010 at 13:29:13
Sounds proverby does that , do pigeons fly at night by the way?
20 Posted 01/11/2010 at 13:37:29
21 Posted 01/11/2010 at 13:50:22
22 Posted 01/11/2010 at 13:35:33
For example if he gets my doppelganger Cruyff to spend a week or so at Finch Farm, its big news; if it goes well Moyes looks a genius, a forward thinking Commander in Chief confident enough to bring in a world name without feeling under threat makes us look like we're the dog's parts.
If it goes tits up, Cruyff was a twat.
Jamie @ 4 I won't do player manager but if Moyes goes I would consider taking over if terms can be agreed. Presently I'm concentrating on my music.
23 Posted 01/11/2010 at 13:59:58
I may be wrong but I feel that especially Coleman, who has played more often is literally playing to orders, he does not look comortable to me.
I just feel that the boy is more at ease when going forward, and should be encouraged to have a pot, when the opportunity arises, he gets into some
clever positions, with defenders backing off, and hopefully Moyes will get him to be a bit more direct.
24 Posted 01/11/2010 at 18:12:40
25 Posted 01/11/2010 at 18:53:24
26 Posted 01/11/2010 at 19:35:16
27 Posted 01/11/2010 at 20:01:14
28 Posted 01/11/2010 at 21:29:17
29 Posted 02/11/2010 at 12:57:50
I don't think there are many of them.
The moaners often talk as if those who disagree with them think everything is fine. This often isn't the case, we just express our criticisms differently, and sometimes not at all.
30 Posted 02/11/2010 at 13:24:40
31 Posted 02/11/2010 at 18:08:39
Moyse doesn't do that, no he doesn't. Instead he has to play everyone out of position and give him more than 11 players he is absolutely clueless what to do with them.
At the end of the day, everything Everton do on the pitch is down to Moyse. He needs to learn tactics, he needs to learn how to change things when we aren't doing so well or when things have become stale...change things so we can win. Learn that attacking football wins matches, not shitting yourself back in defense and getting battered by a bottom of div 1 side..i will never ever forgive him for that.
Sorry Leon, In the defense of Everton Football club and the NSNO moniker, he simply isn't good enough to manage our team.
He has had nearly 9 years in charge and nothing changes..we are still nowhere near winning anything apart from spells in a loony bin with the way the team are currently playing.
he has to go, it's upto fat bill to find a suitable replacement not us. End of.
32 Posted 02/11/2010 at 18:50:01
33 Posted 02/11/2010 at 19:12:52
34 Posted 02/11/2010 at 20:55:17
You have your way of looking at things with your defense, me, I have mine and am happy that we are making progress even if we are more inclined with our defence!!
Before Moyes we were about ready for relegation and obscurity, now with him we still have the opportunity to fight on.
35 Posted 02/11/2010 at 21:51:51
Now the team has little pace in it most fans recognise this so in order to move the opposition defence out of position why not try passing it quicker.
Nobody in the side hits the ball or passes first time except Bilyaletdinov and occasionaly Pienaar.
There was a moment against Stoke when Baines and Pienaar exchanged passes Baines was free Stoke where at sixes and sevens Baines fires the ball across and Arteta takes a touch to control the ball and then is closed down just before he shoots and the chance was gone.
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