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Note: this is taken from the Beeb's gossip section. Two snippets that sum up why we are treading water whilst others pass us. Despite Moyes making a silk purse out of a sows ear at times, he can only do so much:

Everton are set to miss out on Tottenham midfielder Niko Kranjcar because the club cannot afford the £3m asking price for the Croatian international. (Daily Mail)

Former Everton defender Joleon Lescott, who has been told he can leave Manchester City in January, has emerged as a transfer target for Liverpool. (
Great being a Toffee isn't it? No wonder half the players look like they can't be arsed anymore.
Matt Traynor, Singapore     Posted 05/12/2010 at 01:39:13

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Nathan Ward
1   Posted 05/12/2010 at 03:04:33

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To be fair, the Daily Mail ain't known for being totally on the ball for gossip....

And as for Lescott ? who cares.
Alan Clarke
2   Posted 05/12/2010 at 07:00:41

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We don't need another central midfielder, we need a pacey winger and a striker. I'd be pissed off if we bought Krancjar for 3 million and didn't bring a striker in.

As for Lescott, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if that shithouse signed for Liverpool,
Ian Bennett
3   Posted 05/12/2010 at 11:03:58

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I don't rate Kranjcar ? I didn't want him before he went to Spuds and I don't want him now.

We are looking for a replacement for Pienaar, so the player needs to be able to play slightly defensive to allow Baines his freedom ? otherwise we'll be to gung ho down the left.

I like Stephen Ireland if we could stretch to him. Unable to afford £3M is rubbish ? the sale of Bellefield plus some cash, plus Heitinga I assume should allow a couple of players to come in.

Pleased for Beckford yesterday ? and hope he keeps the shirt for Wigan. Same team again.
Trevor Lynes
4   Posted 05/12/2010 at 11:09:56

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I feel exactly as frustrated as the Matt... how is it that we spend virtually nothing yet we are constantly crying poverty? It's a very poor advertisement for a supposedly premier side when Championship clubs are spending more than we are!!!

How can we possibly be in competition with clubs for reasonable players when we are telling the world that we have no money... or realistic ambition? Most players want to be in the running to win trophies and we are treading water and hoping for the best... Mr Micawber comes to mind..!!!!

We can only look abroad in countries that are not known for producing 'name' players or reach into the lower leagues in the hope of finding a rough diamond. None of our youngsters seem to be seriously pushing for places so the future looks bleak.

BK seems to be producing a new version of Dickens 'Christmas Carol', starring himself as Scrooge and DM as Bob Cratchit.
God help us one and all!!

Michael Upton
5   Posted 05/12/2010 at 11:43:04

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"None of our youngsters seem to be seriously pushing for places."

Forgotten a certain Mr Coleman?
David Hallwood
6   Posted 05/12/2010 at 11:38:13

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Matt, the question that you should be asking is why is an EPL team (and just about any team) is unable to operate as a profitable business without outside ?investment? when they have never had so much money coming onto the coffers?

I blame it on the fact that, when it comes to football, we?re still 10-year-old boys in that, if the example was a corner shop or a factory, the decision to shut it would be a no-brainer. Instead, football is run by what Alan Sugar calls the prune juice economy ? money comes straight in and is immediately shit out into the toilet pan that is players and their charmless fucking agents.

Imagine you?re an Evertonian with a spare £50 million, would you invest in football? If the answer?s yes then file under more money than sense because, the minute you did that there would be a queue of agents outside your door like Oliver crying for more...

"Look, Matt, I know Mikel?s just signed a new contract, but you must remember that he signed for the pittance of £75k pw because of his loyalty for Everton, and that loyalty should be rewarded.?

Therefore, unless we manage to catch the eye of a sheik or the boss of a drug cartel craving a train set or respectability, then what we?re asking someone to do is to hand over x million pounds with little or no hope of ever seeing it again. I think football finances are on the verge of getting found out, and ironically even Abramovitch has called a halt to the spending ? as ye sow so ye shall reap, eh, Roman?

Jimmy Hacking
7   Posted 05/12/2010 at 12:21:08

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This situation is pathetic and embarrassing. Yes, the players are overpaid at every Premier League club, but how on earth can we literally have no money to spend?

I've said it before and I'll doubtless say it again, but: Which other large football club in the world has no money available for signings? Not a single one.
Mark Stone
8   Posted 05/12/2010 at 12:48:47

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Michael (4) ... and a certain Jack Rodwell!
James Stewart
9   Posted 05/12/2010 at 13:34:04

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We had a kitty. £9M was wasted on Bily. Now it's sell-to-buy time. I would expect Bily & Heitinga will go in January. Shame as Distin will be finished at the end of the season & we will be back looking for another centre-back. I hope we keep Heitinga...
Tony J Williams
10   Posted 05/12/2010 at 13:47:05

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James, why will Distin be finished? He has looked our best defender the last couple of months. Certainly the quickest.
Colin Ryan
11   Posted 05/12/2010 at 14:00:53

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What can we hope to get for Heitinga and Bily? £15M tops, I'd imagine. So who could we get? We need a striker and a right winger...


I reckon we could get Elmander for about £3M in January as he's out of contract in the summer. And I think Moyes might get something out of Bentley too. Any excess cash I'd be throwing towards a new deal for Pienaar.

With Heitinga going, Distin 33, and no cover for Baines, what would anyone think of bringing Lescott back?

David Hallwood
12   Posted 05/12/2010 at 14:47:55

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I'd have Lescott back in a heartbeat, and as for cries of mercenary, all footballers are slags. To quote GB Shaw: "We know what you are, we're just negotiating the price."
Lee Courtliff
13   Posted 05/12/2010 at 14:51:02

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Although I don't really think this will happen, I think we should try and do a deal with Spurs to get Keane and Bentley with Pienaar going the other way. I don't really want to see Steven leave but if he's going anyway then why not?

The money will have to come from the sale of Heitinga who sadly looks like he wants away. Shame because he was superb at centre half last season and in my opinion should be playing there every week. Kranjcar is an excellent player but I think Bentley has the better crossing ability and Niko might be a bit too close to Arteta in style.

As for Mr Lescott, well, what's that saying about greener grass? I would have him back as a squad player but can't see that happening whatsoever!

Ray Robinson
14   Posted 05/12/2010 at 16:00:34

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I'd have Lescott back too. Maybe he might realise that this is his club? Sentimetal claptrap, I know ...... !
Wayne Smyth
15   Posted 05/12/2010 at 16:02:33

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I'd let Lescott go elsewhere. He's probably on more wages than we can either afford or want to pay and I don't think he'd do anything for our dressing room spirit.

Our net spend for many many seasons has been zero. All the money we have spent, has been regurgitated money from players we have sold. In fact, it appears we have actually been trading at a net profit in terms of transfers.

Don't be surprised to see Rodwell sacrificed to the highest bidder this summer to provide DM with some more cash to buy... although I'd much prefer him to get rid of Saha and especially Bily who Moyes appears unwilling to play in his natural position.
Paul Joy
16   Posted 05/12/2010 at 17:35:19

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Have Lescott back? ? Not a chance!

Moneybags City have shafted themselves by paying over the odds transfer fees and wages for players who are just not worth the money.

So just who else will pay Lescott over 90 grand a week never mind pay a fee for him. He will be sat on City's bench/stands counting his money before getting in his Bentley

You signed up for 'the project', Joleon - didn't you??

Billy Fisher
17   Posted 05/12/2010 at 18:22:08

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Letting Pienaar go to Spurs for Keane and Bentley leaves us short at left mid. Pienaar should be paid more to stay and we need a striker and cover for centre-half from the sale of Bily and Heitinga. Seamus will do the job on right mid ? and fuck the Joleon Lescott idea right off.
Tim Kells
18   Posted 05/12/2010 at 21:57:05

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I think Pienaar will be on his way, won't he? He's playing well and will be sadly missed. But I think we gambled last Summer in that we thought we could persuade him to stay if we reached the Champions League this season. Sadly that's not going to happen.
Matt Traynor
19   Posted 06/12/2010 at 00:35:48

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David (#6) I agree with your sentiments.

Lest we forget that it was Everton (under the Chairmanship of Philip Carter) who were one of the main protagonists behind the breakaway from the Football League to form the new Premier League - the idea being that with a greater slice of the revenue (at the expense of lower league clubs, albeit with much higher revenues overall), Everton would once again be a force to be reckoned with.

Unfortunately around the same time, the typically far-sighted Everton board decided to treble their money on Lineker after 1 season (believe me, he wanted to stay), and as a direct result of that, HK left the following season when we again won the Championship (when his stock was high remember) and we replaced him with a reluctant manager and so the cycle of Everton Doldrums began again. Except this one has turned into a frigging Ice Age.
Sega Kana
20   Posted 06/12/2010 at 02:14:12

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I'll have Lescott back. He brought us decent money when he left. And he would be a great cover for Baines.
Danny Broderick
21   Posted 06/12/2010 at 02:47:38

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Lee @13 and Billy @17,

We'd be lucky to get about £3 million for Pienaar in January now that his contract is running down. What makes you think that Spurs would give us Kranjcar and Keane??!!

I'd be happy with either 1 to be honest because we are going to be left with bugger all come May. Both would be a gamble but Moyes has expressed an interest in both of them before.

Who are we kidding though. Stubborn old Moysie will not do anything before the summer. We might get the tried and tested Donovan if we are lucky...

Lee Courtliff
22   Posted 06/12/2010 at 13:21:37

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Billy (#17) ? The point is Pienaar is leaving us anyway by the look of things. Use him while we can as leverage.

Danny (#21) ? I said not to bother with Kranjcar, even though he is a good player. If 'Arry rates Pienaar, he could be used as a bargaining chip in some form or other surely. Redknapp would obviously prefer a player in his squad that he intended using as opposed to Keane and Bentley who he clearly does not want!

Realistically someone could probably get Keane and Bentley for £12mill combined (that is a guess based on Keane's age and the fact that both will be on good wages and not playing very much). So if we do raise some money by selling someone, we could chuck Pienaar into the deal and bring the price down to something we could afford. A lot of guesswork here I know but they are two good players.

As for being short at left-mid, well Mikel was our player of the season 2 years running out wide, Bily can fill in there, and even Leon Osman looked ok there before his injury. And let's not forget our "secret weapon". Worst-case scenario is that we only attack down the right instead of the left which is where we are now using just one flank. And Bentley is a much better crosser than Pienaar.

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