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Why we just can't compete financially

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How much did EFC get for their new "record" shirt sponsorship again?!

Well, Barcelona have just done a deal with the Qatar Foundation (are these the boys who are rumoured to be looking at buying Everton??) for shirt sponsorship that runs until 2016 for a whopping ?165M. That's over ?30M per season.

When I look at articles saying that we should have an academy like Barcelona's or we should be able to compete with the so-called big boys, this sort of news comes to mind. Just look at this as an example of the money Barcelona have to invest in youth, amongst other things.

We're not doing badly for paupers!!! Granted, the season hasn't gone as we all would have hoped but in general, we really are punching way above our weight. It's not just guff from Kenwright, as a lot of you seem to think (and I'm not a BK fan BTW).

Just a thought!
Alan Mullally, Dublin     Posted 10/12/2010 at 16:44:47

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Michael Kenrick
1   Posted 10/12/2010 at 17:51:47

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Yet more of this stuff... it's defeatist, it's negative, it ignores the players we have, it ignores the ability they have to compete with and even beat the best... if only they (and Moyes) believed in themselves a little bit more and went for it instead of playing all this negative shite Moyes thinks is the way for us to go.

We are NOT punching way above our weight. This squad should be doing far better than they are. Forget about Barcelona, look at the 11 players who could go out on Saturday and could play Wigan off the park...

Will they? That's anybody's guess... but there surely is no doubt that this team is capable of it.

We are NOT punching way above our weight. That is a media bullshit ? we are under-performing, and we have been throughout this dreadful start to the season (with perhaps one exception ? the derby).
Gavin Ramejkis
2   Posted 10/12/2010 at 17:55:00

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Alan, your argument is pointless, you are comparing Barcelona with Everton, that's like comparing a Bentley with a Metro. Barca can earn that sort of sponsorship because of what they offer, excellent football and CL football with superstars, whereas Everton can offer shite football and Thursday football if we do well in the league in the Europa league which will still haven't won either.

A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step but our marketing and development of a club is in reverse.
David O'Keefe
3   Posted 10/12/2010 at 18:01:22

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Sorry, but the squad is not as good as we think it is. They are 15th on merit.

It's the resources vs resourceful argument again. This will run and run.
Robert Daniels
4   Posted 10/12/2010 at 18:20:51

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David,

We will never know if they're as good, as some of us think they are, with this manager.

Until he tries to play attacking football, we wont find out!

Gueye, Bily, Baxter, etc will never be risked, if you can call it that, while others are fit, even when they're not playing well.

He definitely has his favourites.
Simon Jenkins
5   Posted 10/12/2010 at 18:52:13

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1# Michael, we are 'punching above our weight' in the sense that our financial limit is dwarfed by financial limits of other clubs. Five top 7 finishes in 8 years, a semi-final appearance and a Cup Final appearance is a lot more than some clubs ? Villa, Man City ? have achieved in that time.
Bren Connor
6   Posted 10/12/2010 at 18:47:33

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Barcelona's shirt sponsorship is part of a deal that saw Guardiola and the head of the Spanish FA support Qatar's world cup bid. It's part of a long term plan the Spanish have of getting Qatari cash to finance La Liga.

If that's the way football is going I'll keep my povo Toffees thanks.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/paulkelso/100014404/have-barcelona-sold-more-than-their-shirts-to-qatar/
James Cadwaladr
7   Posted 10/12/2010 at 19:27:49

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Bren @ 5. We can probably take from that, that the Qatar Royal Family won't be purchasing and English Club then.

FC Everton of Walton anyone?
Martin Handley
8   Posted 10/12/2010 at 19:35:37

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Look, let's just put things into perspective. As has already been stated comparing us with Barcelona is just idiotic ? we're not on the same planet as them financially, playing- or anything else-wise... Ok, negativity over: now, to be more realistic, Man U, City and Chelsea apart, we SHOULD be able to compete with all the other pretenders to the throne.

I would have a fairly safe bet in saying that we have got at least five players whom most clubs would be envious of: Baines, Jagielka, Fellaini, Rodwell, Cahill, Pienaar and yes even Howard, who while not spectacular is reliable and that's what counts in a keeper. Oh, that's seven... pardon my maths!

The reason we're not competing is inept management from top to bottom ? and YES, I include Moyes in that for his tactical ineptitude and lack of vision.

Of course for our failures financially I 100% blame Kenwright and Earlstone, forget trying to find "Investors" and please find a "Buyer" who I'm sure would let you stay on the board as an honourary director and mouthpiece. He will be less embarrassing reading off a script (BK is a trained luvvie after all) and there are one or two half decent managers out of work at the moment, such as Jol and O'Niell.

But I do think that the Chang deal probably is the best out there... or would you prefer Carslberg, probably the worst sponsors in the world!

But the one question I have always wanted answering is where oh where has all the money gone?

Leon Perrin
9   Posted 10/12/2010 at 20:03:35

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If Billy had flogged us to the arab boys who bought Man City, we'd be laughing... top and bottom of it.

Barca are shit compared to Everton.
Martin Handley
10   Posted 10/12/2010 at 20:08:41

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Leon (#8) ? are you for real? Barca are shit compared to Everton!

I'm a lifelong blue (44 yrs) and find that statement laughable! Also the Arab boys were never ever remotely interested in us.

Michael Kenrick
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11   Posted 10/12/2010 at 20:35:10

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Martin.... "Earlstone" ?!?!?! Who he?
Joe McMahon
12   Posted 10/12/2010 at 21:18:57

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I've just had a thougght, could you imagine Moyes managing Barca, he'd probrably leave Messi on the Bench then bring him on on the 70th minute. Our wonderful leader would be lost at Spurs even. You can't compare us with any, and that is any attacking CL football clubs.
Karl Masters
13   Posted 10/12/2010 at 21:57:18

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Michael is right. This team has woefully underperformed this season, but I sense a change is coming.

I think we'll win tomorrow, derail Man City next week and hopefully pick up a good few points against Birmingham, West Ham and Stoke over Christmas and New Year.

We played well at Chelsea overall and, but for that moment of madness by Neville, could have won. I want to see Moyes go for it tomorrow and Gueye to get at least 30 minutes minimum.
Jay Harris
14   Posted 10/12/2010 at 22:04:15

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Martin, you lost me when you made Earl and Elstone into one person.

Perish the thought ? it's bad enough having Greenwright.
Leon Perrin
15   Posted 10/12/2010 at 22:14:33

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Martin @ 8

I've got me blue glasses on today mate, they're all shit compared to Everton.
Andy Crooks
16   Posted 10/12/2010 at 23:03:30

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Michael, you are right and should write a blog confirming your point. Our squad is the best for many years yet our league position is abysmal. The answer must be in selection and tactics. Why can the defenders of David Moyes not see this?

Money has nothing to do with it. We do not expect Champions League but we expect the coach to get the best from the squad. He doesn't.

Tony J Williams
17   Posted 11/12/2010 at 10:20:45

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Andy do you suppose it may also have something to do with our better players playing like they have forgotten how to kick a ball?

The only consistent performer this half of the season has been Baines, the rest have all had crappy games for the majority.

Now I don't care if we had Mourinho managing us, if the players are not playing well, we will not win; yes, it's up to Moyes to get them out of their funk... but it's not that easy ? just look at Anchelotti, managing the Champions but cannot get them going in the last month and a half. Then again, apparently this managerial lark is a piece of piss to the FM-heads on here.
KPR Williams
18   Posted 11/12/2010 at 10:29:27

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Spot on, Tony...
It don't matter who you pick or what formation if they don't perform or in some cases can't even be arsed trying, then you're in the shite. We don't have the luxury of dropping them as we don't have a ready made replacement up to the task of stepping in and making the position his own...
I just wish they'd all try try.
Gavin Ramejkis
19   Posted 11/12/2010 at 21:44:18

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KPR - Sheitinga replaced by Rodwell or Fellaini, Saha replaced by Yakubu or Beckford, Arteta replaced by Fellaini or Rodwell, Howard replaced by Mucha, the argument is rubbish.

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