When is the last time we have had a good goal scorer? This is not another anti-Moyes post but I believe the failure to find a 20-goal-a-season man is Moyes's biggest failure at Everton.
Beattie, Johnston, Yakubu, Jo. What's the common link? All came to Everton with decent records. All failed... and while Yakubu hasn't suffered yet, the rest have left with their careers fucked.
Why? Were they bad buys? Is it the way we play? Anichebe... Vaughan... can no-one score for us? I ask this, not as an anti-Moyes post, but as a genuine question. Why is Goodison Park the strikers graveyard?
Andy Crooks, Posted 10/12/2010 at 23:38:44
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1 Posted 11/12/2010 at 02:02:27
2 Posted 11/12/2010 at 02:20:07
If you find a lone striker like that that we can afford and who wants to play for us then please let DM know ASAP. Until that day comes, DM will continue to kill strikers whilst he persevered with 4-5-1.
3 Posted 11/12/2010 at 04:53:18
Cahill bails Moyes out very often but he has been given, or takes, licence to get forward. As a tactic, it works well. But other midfielders need to do the same to make the 'lone' striker tactic pay off properly. But I wonder if they are encouraged, or even allowed to?
4 Posted 11/12/2010 at 06:40:44
5 Posted 11/12/2010 at 06:46:07
6 Posted 11/12/2010 at 07:24:37
7 Posted 11/12/2010 at 07:27:01
8 Posted 11/12/2010 at 07:39:32
Repeat this process ? to save time and paper jump down to 15 goals a season then ten etc until you eventually arrive at...... Jermaine Beckford!
Factor in that whilst Timmy continues to be our most consistent scorer we are only ever going to play one up front and you soon realise we have the strikers we do.
Having said all of the above I still feel that if any of our strikers could show even a semblance of their known ability we would not have a problem ? I would favour the aforementioned Jermaine Beckford despite his early season form when he was playing from the start but looked a little lost (putting it kindly).
9 Posted 11/12/2010 at 08:22:53
10 Posted 11/12/2010 at 08:32:31
But, of course, once Moyes had beaten this out of him and tried (and failed) to turn him into an honest workhorse who toiled for the team a la Beattie/ Johnson/ Bent, the game was up. I still hold out hope that Yak will come good again, but it certainly won't happen while Moyes persists with his infuriating 4-5-1, keep-it-tight perspective on the beautiful game. Christ, last season's January- March sequence of beautiful and incisive football now seems so long ago as to have not happened; an oasis in a desert of drab Sunday league football.
I seem to remember a stat that said at the time only Henry had a better goals-to-games ratio in the Premier League than Yakubu. That's Thierry Henry, not Carl Henry by the way, who I think has a better goalscoring record this season than Yakubu and Saha put together.
11 Posted 11/12/2010 at 08:49:44
So much for the 'Dogey Duo's' claims as expounded by Captain Pip about great team spirit & group of players who think they can acheive something, eh!
I mean when an average (at best) player won't sign for that kind of offer, what on earth is going on at our club?
12 Posted 11/12/2010 at 09:01:21
I think the problem is twofold: Firstly, I don't think Moyes understands the strikers mentality or how best to deal with them.
Secondly, under the system we play, chasing aimless balls into the corner flags & then constantly tracking back to defend isn't going to get the best out of any natural goalscorer.
13 Posted 11/12/2010 at 09:15:56
You have spent the last 2/3 months making every single thread a critique of David Moyes. You clearly feel that he has no clue about strikers and how to manage one, why not just say so instead of this thinly veiled attack.
I happen to agree and I don't feel that he has signed a bad striker for real money in his time with us. What has happened is they have had their focus taken from being the man who puts the ball in the net to being the first line of defence, get back for corners etc. Without doubt we are a much worse team for it.
When you actually think how few real chances (I.e. 1-2-1 with the keeper) we create it's all the more remarkable that the Yak scored as many as he did. It also highlights why most striker's struggle with our system. The chances Pienaar created for Beckford was the first time I seen a real through-ball at Goodison for god knows how long.
14 Posted 11/12/2010 at 09:54:05
1. You can't score goals running to collect balls at the corner flag
2. You can't score goals if its your striker crossing the ball
3. You can't score goals if no one gets to the by-line and knocks it back
4. You can't score goals if the striker is marking a defender for corners (their corners!)
5. You can't score goals playing to feet with your back to goal.
6. You can't score goals if there is no-one to split the defence with a great run
7. You can't score goals if you have three defenders on you and no-one to pass it too
8. You can't score a goal if you don't have the ball
9. You can't score a goal if you play hoofball from the back and your giving 6" and 10kg to the centre back ? and even if you DO win the ball there is o one alongside you to profit
10. You can't score goals if you don't inspire your players to be inventive or take a risk
Moyes should ask himself as a former central defender, what did he hate playing against? A lone striker or a dual strike force with wing men who got behind the full backs?
All of the above are down to Moyes. No-one else.
15 Posted 11/12/2010 at 10:09:23
2. You can't score goals if it's your striker crossing the ball ? Agreed
3. You can't score goals if no-one gets to the by-line and knocks it back ? Yes you can, through the middle, which seems to be a lost art with our strikers/midfielders
4. You can't score goals if the striker is marking a defender for corners (their corners!) ? Agreed
5. You can't score goals playing to feet with your back to goal ? Yes you can, it's called turning defenders which most strikers of note should be able to do in their sleep
6. You can't score goals if there is no-one to split the defence with a great run ? Yes you can, drive past them yourself
7. You can't score goals if you have three defenders on you and no-one to pass it too ? Again, lose your marker or turn them
8. You can't score a goal if you don't have the ball ? dur!!
9. You can't score a goal if you play hoofball from the back and your giving 6" and 10kg to the centre back and even if you DO win the ball there is no-one alongside you to profit ? We are playing less hoofball now, in fact, we are starting to overplay it, but agreed
10. You can't score goals if you don't inspire your players to be inventive or take a risk ? Why should a confident striker need to be inspired to take a punt on goal? In fact, that's all Beckford does instead of looking for the better play.
So how is all the above down to only Moyes, instead of being down to Moyes (tactics), Midfielders (not showing for balls or completing passes), and Strikers (for not doing their fecking job of shooting)? All of the above are the reason why we are where we are ? not just the easy "It's Moyes's fault". Those overpaid feckers in the middle get away with murder on here by those who want to just blame the manager for everything.
Talking of overpaid feckers, I see Vic doesn't want to sign for a reported £30k a week... unbelievable Jeff..... ta ra then, dickhead.
16 Posted 11/12/2010 at 10:19:42
17 Posted 11/12/2010 at 10:32:51
18 Posted 11/12/2010 at 10:48:20
19 Posted 11/12/2010 at 10:56:14
What an absolute cheeeeeky bastard!!!! For a player of incredibly limited skill levels who does he think he is? What exactly has he achieved in his Everton career to warrant turning down that sort of deal?
I struggle to see his good points apart from being used as a substitue battering ram.
20 Posted 11/12/2010 at 10:56:39
The problem is we haven't signed a top world class striker, we have had decent players who on their day can do something, but all to inconsistent. The Yak of two an three years ago was a leathal as we have had. Beattie and Johnson weren't up to much, Jo(ke) says it all. Vaughan isn't good enough and neither is Vic.
A David Villa, Drogba, Ronaldo (Portugese one), dear I say Torres - what we have lacked is a player of this calibre, but we don't have cash - simple really it is all about cash...just ask Pienaar and Rooney!!
21 Posted 11/12/2010 at 11:11:12
Whilst in theory I agree with you that a top class striker would be able to handle many of the situations the fact is that we do not play to the strengths of what we do have!
Who, outside of Man U, Arsenal, RS etc, have such a player?? What they do is compensate for the qualities their strikers do have rather than play a system and ignore the individual strengths of the players we do have.
Thats the problem, no matter who has the strikers shirt, the role is the same, the result is the same because the tactics are the same..
If you keep getting the same results with different players with the same tactics then logic tells you that you play to your strengths not to the system
22 Posted 11/12/2010 at 11:26:18
23 Posted 11/12/2010 at 13:33:41
If you only play one style of attack, a slow sideways build up out to the wings then a hoofed ball in to the middle for someone to head towards goal;
If you never vary your attacks;
If nobody ever even tries a shot
Then you won't score. We are a boring team and that hurts the most.
24 Posted 11/12/2010 at 13:32:36
25 Posted 11/12/2010 at 14:40:29
Our "wingers" are at best defensive.
26 Posted 11/12/2010 at 14:42:01
There´s Cahill of course, but apart from him we have a very deep midfield line that do not like to threaten defences.
27 Posted 11/12/2010 at 15:53:05
28 Posted 11/12/2010 at 23:28:58
He is a battleship, because like one is slow to turn and has no pace whatsoever.
The other problem with him is his diving tactics... the man is washed up, should have been sold with Saha in the last transfer window!
29 Posted 12/12/2010 at 05:57:41
30 Posted 12/12/2010 at 12:03:45
31 Posted 13/12/2010 at 23:37:11
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