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Today's game is off due to a frozen water supply at Goodison Park!

I had to work yesterday with a bad hangover and my Dad has been taken into hospital and may require surgery!

Merry Fuckin' Christmas!


Lee Courtliff, Burnley     Posted 26/12/2010 at 11:12:11

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Martin Handley
1   Posted 26/12/2010 at 09:09:53

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Is the game still on as Walton is an ice rink underfoot at the minute?
Ray Robinson
2   Posted 26/12/2010 at 10:17:08

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GAME OFF due to loads of burst pipes! See Official Site.
Paul Gladwell
3   Posted 26/12/2010 at 10:32:35

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Ruined my day... the pipes have burst because they are cold. Why were they not left on? Never fail, do they... embarrassing.
Martin Handley
4   Posted 26/12/2010 at 10:38:28

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Ray thanks for the info mate.
Well anybody else coming to watch Real Royal Oak v Racing Black Horse in Stanley Park @ 13.00..lol..Biffa Bacon & Ronaldo Smith are back from suspension for unbeaten Racing!
Dave Lynch
5   Posted 26/12/2010 at 12:22:23

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What a fucking embarrassment!

Prem status, pitch fit and a few burst pipes stop the game!

David Hallwood
6   Posted 26/12/2010 at 13:05:36

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Merry Christmas everyone, and just to echo everyone here. I've just turned the TV on before going to the game to learn that there's no game to go to. Frozen pipes! FFS wasn't we the first club with undersoil heating and it's come to this, on a par with a Sunday league club.
Alex Kociuba
7   Posted 26/12/2010 at 13:07:13

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It's not really an embarrassment at all; I can't remember the last time a game was called off because of 'bad' weather at Goodison. We have an ancient stadium (which rarely fails) and a crap local council who are incapable of gritting streets.
Brian Waring
8   Posted 26/12/2010 at 14:07:00

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Alex, the game being called off had nothing to do with the council gritting the streets, it's because pipework has burst inside the stadium overnight, and for heatlth & safety, and sanitry reasons, the club have called it off.

Only for the burst pipes, the game was going ahead.
Leon Perrin
9   Posted 26/12/2010 at 14:11:05

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I'm running a "Live match forum" anyway, here we go.

Moyes is playing Hibbo as lone striker?????
Dave Lynch
10   Posted 26/12/2010 at 14:38:25

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It is an embarrassment! Most games in the prem and even a couple in Scotland are on. I know of at least 6 people travelling from down south and a couple from Ireland for this fixture.

Lack of investment in the stadium is the problem. Well racked off, I look forward to this fixture home and away every year.

Alex Kociuba
11   Posted 26/12/2010 at 15:02:16

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Oh well in that case, fuck health and safety we'll play on a frozen pitch! My point, Brian, is that for many decades the pipes under Goodison have not failed: we've had extreme weather and now they have failed... not an embarrassment really is it? The very fact we've had the luxury of undersoil heating for so long, yet there are clubs like Blackpool in the 21st Century without it... that's embarrassing.
Dave Lynch
12   Posted 26/12/2010 at 15:10:09

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Alex. The pitch is playable. The pipes have burst inside the stadium, the toilets etc. Nothing to do with the pitch, the pitch is perfectly playable.
Mike Prendergast
13   Posted 26/12/2010 at 15:38:07

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Sorry to hear your bad news.
Hope 2011 is a good year for you.
Alex Kociuba
14   Posted 26/12/2010 at 15:40:55

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Oh ok. I retract 75% of my comments :-)
Graham Rathbone
15   Posted 26/12/2010 at 15:21:34

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Now I'm not a plumber or anything, but is it too much to ask why the pipes were not lagged FFS?

I know we don't have much in the way of funds at the club, but lagging cannot cost that much, maybe we could get some on loan.

Graham Rathbone
16   Posted 26/12/2010 at 15:45:41

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Sorry your Dad's not too good Lee, hope it's nothing serious, and he gets well soon.

As for the frozen pipes situation, I was in B & Q recently and they stocked this wonderful invention called pipe lagging, apparently you wrap this around the pipes to prevent freezing.

Maybe we cannot aford it, can we get some on loan?

Jay Harris
17   Posted 26/12/2010 at 16:00:27

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Guess it's Plumbers 0 Electricians 0 then.

Mabe it's a ploy to get Jags fit.
Rahman Talib
18   Posted 26/12/2010 at 17:04:14

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On another note, Malaysia beat Indonesia 3-0 in the first leg of the Asian Footbal Federation Cup (Suzuki Cup) today. And I'm a Malaysian.

GO MALAYSIA!!!!
Christopher McCullough
19   Posted 26/12/2010 at 17:19:52

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Frozen waterpipes or BK propoganda?
Tom Bowers
20   Posted 26/12/2010 at 17:18:13

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Okay so the game is off. Maybe it's a good thing? Players may be fitter and fresher for Tuesday's game than the Hammers players especially if Jags was touch & go.
Gareth Hughes
21   Posted 26/12/2010 at 17:43:10

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What I really resent is Ian Ross using the game postponement as an excuse to kick on the Evertonians who did'nt want to go to Kirkby! He said that it proved wrong those who didn't want a new modern stadium. Actually Mr Ross, most Everton fans will happily go to a new stadium if it is worthy of our club rather than a crappy lego set like the one in Kirkby. If your paymasters had been competent enough to provide their share of the Kings Dock money, we would have been playing there now, you whoppa!
Martin Handley
22   Posted 26/12/2010 at 18:05:28

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For anyone who cares Real Royal Oak caused a sensation with their 4-0 hammering of Racing Black Horse with both Biffa & Ronaldo bagging a brace!
Brian Waring
23   Posted 26/12/2010 at 18:11:01

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Gareth, Ian Ross is up his own arse, and is a fucking huge tit, and always will be.
Richard Dodd
24   Posted 26/12/2010 at 18:19:51

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Probably code for "We've got no centre-halves"!
Ian Stewart
25   Posted 26/12/2010 at 18:09:34

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@20 Gareth Hughes: I'd like to echo your comments. As I was driving home from work, Ian Ross was on talksport. I suggest everyone tries listening to it, I'm guessing it'll be available on the pod cast, approx 10:00 am was the broadcast. Nothing I've read or heard since the cancellation of the ground move has been so illuminating.

Ian Ross clearly feels keenly, as I suggest his bosses also do, the loss of Desperation Kirkby. His remarks were childish, and don't forget he is the spokesperson for our club. Shame on him.

Guy Hastings
26   Posted 26/12/2010 at 18:58:24

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Brian (#23) ? 'a huge fucking tit up its own arse'. Is he moonlighting as Katie Price?
Brian Hill
27   Posted 26/12/2010 at 19:01:04

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Apparently "Blue Bill" has spent 24/7 trying to find some lagging but nobody was willing to pay for it and allow "Blue Bill" to retain unconditional control of the pipes. Therefore the game was postponed.
Colin Gee
28   Posted 26/12/2010 at 20:04:04

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When was the last time a match at Goodison was postponed due to the weather though?

I can't think of anything in recent years, I seem to recall a League Cup tie in the early 1980s being called off due to snow, but can't recall anything for certain. Any 'stattos' know?
Trevor Lynes
29   Posted 26/12/2010 at 20:08:06

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I can vaguely remember fog causing cancellations but that is pre-smokeless fuel and Jack the Ripper was at large!!

It's a blessing I reckon and will give our wounded players a bit of extra convalescence... Also, WHU will only have two days to prepare.

Our away form should be good enough so long as they have kept the Yak mince pie free and Arteta away from the Rioja... CHEERS!!

Joseph Strumm
30   Posted 26/12/2010 at 20:39:54

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Ian Ross should be sacked for making such a snide comment regarding Kirkby.
Michael Kenrick
31   Posted 26/12/2010 at 21:02:31

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I was gonna say there was a derby back in the 90s... but I guess it was at Anfield. Certainly not during the ToffeeWeb Era (ie, since 1994).
Tony J Williams
32   Posted 26/12/2010 at 21:33:32

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How is a pipe burst, that has been there for decades, embarrassing? It's all Moyes/Kenright's/Hibbert's fault blah blah fecken blah!
Ray Roche
33   Posted 26/12/2010 at 21:49:03

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@20 Gareth Hughes

I agree, Gareth, if there is no real investment in Goodison at such a basic level, it IS embarrassing. If soft bollocks had found a relatively small £30M, which I believe was the required sum for Kings Dock, we'd have had a modern stadium now. And there'd be no need for Ross's pathetic comments.
Dick Fearon
34   Posted 26/12/2010 at 22:35:21

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Tony #31, Water in the pipes freeze and expands. This creates splits in the pipes. When it thaws the ice turns back to water. Pipes made of lead are particularly vulnerable.

It is all BK's fault that Merseyside is experiencing abnormally cold weather. Not having the odd £30 million in his back pocket was also his fault and, but for a suggestion from his wife, we would not have Davy Moyes as manager.

Simon Baines
35   Posted 27/12/2010 at 01:18:01

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Holy shit there are some moning twats on here ? if it's not Kenwright, Moyes, Hibbert, Osman, Neville or Heitinga, it's the ground.

Please just shut the fuck up you are all supposed to be Everton Supporters, if you dont support the chairman the manager or the team what are you supporting?

IMWT COYB

Derek Thomas
36   Posted 27/12/2010 at 01:33:56

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Simon Baines ? you are up there with Ian Ross.

It's always the little things that piss people off the most, because little things, by their nature, can, with a bit of attention to detail and the right attitude, be prevented.

The devil is in the detail. The looking after the pennies and the pounds take care of them selves.

Upgrading Goodison is not about footprint, infrastructure, transport, mega bucks. It's about stainless steel, copper, porcelain tiles. Admittedly a bit more than your Sarah Beeney kitchen and bathroom renno, but building the Emirates on a greenfield site it ain't.

It's not can't but won't.

Pipe lagging, pies, Pienaar's contract or pursuing investment, contrary to what the short sighted say... IT IS HIS FAULT, the buck stops with Bill.
Simon Baines
37   Posted 27/12/2010 at 02:00:52

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Derek, before Bill it was Peter, I know who I would rather have.
If I dont like something, I would never buy it, so is there anything you like about Everton?

IMWT COYB
Simon Baines
38   Posted 27/12/2010 at 02:10:26

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And also thank you Bill for Arteta, Fellaini, Jagielka and every other player we have bought while he's been chairman, and the 4th place and a couple of 5th places, because if you blame him for all the negatives you have to give him all the positives.

Don't you Derek?

IMIT COYB

Derek Thomas
39   Posted 27/12/2010 at 07:19:14

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Er... ponders: No, it's his job to get the right things right and his moral duty (Google it) to walk for the multitude of wrongs.

If he doesn't actually go and lag the pipes himself he should know a man who could and if he is already employed he'd better have a bloody good excuse for this fuck up. He or Bill has cost us the difference in cash between a near holiday full house and the average gate, say 5000 x £30 = £150k, that's a lorra lorra plumbers, even at their rates.

Peter and Bill, 2 wrongs don't make a right, more like Bill and Ben.

Bill's well documented minuses, not to mention the cash cost of the DK debacle, FAR out weight the 'good' points.

Yes, I know it's extra cold and accidents do happen but burst pipes should be a thing of the past, especially in a multi-million pound business, we may call her the Old Lady but this is not some Old Lady's house around the corner that has not been touched since she moved in in 1963 with no insulation and lead pipes.

We are in N Liverpool, not South Liverpool. It's Goodison Park not Holly Park (no offence meant, I used to be a member and BTW more than a few management similarities).
John Staines
40   Posted 27/12/2010 at 08:20:31

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Well, spare a thought for me. Supported Everton for 34 years and yet never been to a home game... I travel 13,000 miles and the game is called off. Such is life....

No more home games before I return back to Australia... such is life, eh? Least I got to the ground and got some pics etc. and of course I bought more than a few things from the merchandise store....

Cheers
Ray Roche
41   Posted 27/12/2010 at 09:59:16

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John Staines

When you're at the ground, can you do a bit of pipe lagging while you're there?
Gavin Ramejkis
42   Posted 27/12/2010 at 11:10:01

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Dick, I'm pretty sure that lead pipes haven't been used for decades and should have been replaced through to the issue of lead poisoning in water supplies, far more prevalent are copper and plastic. Lagging costs fuck all, but if it was in the toilets the water is fucking ice cold in those already.

Ian Ross should be another shameful name fucked off from this club along with Billy Bullshitter for his comments, the guy is a prick.
Jon Cox
43   Posted 27/12/2010 at 12:37:41

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Lee, hope your dads gets well soon.

All I got for Xmas was a two-piece friggin jigsaw puzzle. And I've got to send it back because there's no picture on the box...

GRRR!
James Cadwaladr
44   Posted 27/12/2010 at 14:28:48

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Has anyone else heard the rumours that the players haven't been paid since end of October?

The club needs to get its act together, it really does.
Karl Masters
45   Posted 27/12/2010 at 14:32:22

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The last time a game was called off was December 30, 2000, almost 10 years ago to the day, the opponents were Leeds. It was due to unsafe, icy conditions around the stadium on the pavements. The pitch was playable.

The match was eventually played early February and ended 2-2 with a certain Olivier Dacourt equalising from 25 yards late on as Paul Gerrard let it slip through his grasp.

Ian Ross: Shame on you. Modern plumbing isn't always up to much so who is to say it wouldn't have happened at Tesco's cheapjack flatpack stadium?

Some others blaming the Club, but it has been much colder than usual for longer and if it hasn't happened before I guess you'd think twice at lagging 2 MILES of pipes if it didn't seem necessary. Will make them fresher for Upton Park... I hope!! :)
Karl Masters
46   Posted 27/12/2010 at 14:40:34

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James (#44)

Interesting rumour that one. Who's your source? Or was it someone on the sauce in a pub?

Personally, I don't believe it as you would have heard about it on October 30!!! You couldn't keep that quiet for 2 months. And Everton are not that skint. Not rolling in it, but with nigh on £100M due in this year it'll be a long time before we do a Portsmouth.
John Daley
47   Posted 27/12/2010 at 14:44:25

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"And also thank you Bill for Arteta, Fellaini, Jagielka and every other player we have bought while he's been chairman..."

Have you by any chance been schooled in the art of sycophancy by the one and only Richard Dodd? You sound like the ToffeeWeb version of Waylon Smithers with Kenwright as your very own Mr Burns.

Ian Ross: "The game's been called off due to easily foreseen and preventable circumstances sir, possibly arising from your penny pinching ways. This presents us with a perfect opportunity for petty point scoring over those who dared doubt the wisdom of destination Kirkby."

Kenwright: "Excellent."

Simon Baines: "Amazing adaptability under pressure sir".
Tony J Williams
48   Posted 27/12/2010 at 17:43:57

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James do you honestly think that no-one would have leaked that to the papers by now?
David Lee
49   Posted 27/12/2010 at 19:01:26

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Heard Moyes tryed to fix the leak himself but putting a square peg into the round hole just didn't work. He should've asked Neville ? the utility man!!!!!!!!
Richard Jones
50   Posted 27/12/2010 at 20:13:03

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Simon Baines ? Shall we all thank Peter Johnson for winning the FA Cup?
Derek Thomas
51   Posted 27/12/2010 at 23:06:53

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Simon; don't have to... I know what it means...as do, I hope you, it's Bill and his cohorts who seem to have forgotton.

We could play tit-for-tat "Google this then" ? but why should I? Me granny always said... 'Never argue with fools in public as the bystanders won't be able to tell the difference.'

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