I just read the link on the front page (a similar link seems to appear every time there is a transfer window on the horizon!) and yet again we have no money and no hope of bringing in anyone. Just when we can start dreaming of new signings to freshen things up, the rug is pulled from under us.
Isn't it about time our manager wheeled and dealed a bit? Obviously loyalty is a good quality for a manager to have, but looking at our squad, there is some dead wood to shift. Yakubu and Saha are not the players they were for starters, Bily has never looked up to it in an Everton shirt, Pienaar will go for nothing at the end of the season. It appears Vaughan is surplus to requirements.
Why not let some of them go? Even if we only got £7 or £8 million for that lot, we might be able to bring in 2 fresh players. There must be some players in the Championship we could look at? Or an up-and-coming striker from Europe somewhere? Or is it unrealistic for us, as Evertonians, to dream about us making a signing in the transfer window?
Danny Broderick, Posted 27/12/2010 at 17:51:14
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1 Posted 27/12/2010 at 19:51:39
2 Posted 27/12/2010 at 19:51:56
3 Posted 27/12/2010 at 20:16:21
4 Posted 27/12/2010 at 20:48:42
5 Posted 27/12/2010 at 21:01:44
When did you start dreaming? You only just realised this now! Did you actually believe those Daily Mail articles suggesting 8million pound men?
No rug has be pulled from under us, BK sold them along time ago.
6 Posted 27/12/2010 at 21:15:00
7 Posted 27/12/2010 at 21:12:15
8 Posted 27/12/2010 at 21:22:03
1) January is never a good time to sign and try to integrate a new player
2) Let's hold on to the players we have got
3) Some previous loans have turned into fantastic deals
But the sad fact remains that, without some £30 million to spend on players in the coming year, we are continuing to head for mid-table mediocrity.
9 Posted 27/12/2010 at 21:26:28
Tom, couldn't agree more, at what point will the penny finally drop that BK is out of his depth but steering Everton right into an iceberg. I can't wait for Doddy to try to pardon BK out of this one.
10 Posted 27/12/2010 at 21:44:25
11 Posted 27/12/2010 at 21:53:35
Where's your and thus Everton's great fucking friend now then, Kenshite?
12 Posted 27/12/2010 at 22:05:06
13 Posted 27/12/2010 at 22:02:49
IF this lack of investment continues?? Ian, it has become apparent that ? in spite of what Billy Bullshit is claiming ? we are not as a club doing enough to attract investment, and I mean the right type of investment. Kenright is still on planet 24/7 looking for a billionaire to buy us, fund us, sustain us and let him call the shots.
It has been well documented that Everton Football Club is a poorly run business in virtually all aspects. Kings Dock, Destination Kirkby and "The cheque is in the post" have been spouted on here too many times to mention ? we as fans understand what needs to be done; unfortunately, the people who have the final say are incompetent, clueless and lack any real vision to implement a positive change. So get used to the old Moyes "we don't have cash to spend" because it is not going to change any time soon I am afraid.
14 Posted 27/12/2010 at 22:13:43
I've heard that things may shortly be coming to fruition & on January 1st he will finally have raised the 24 Pounds & 7 pence that he has been talking about all along.
Good on you Bill, the club's financial future is safe in your hands.
15 Posted 27/12/2010 at 22:36:58
Spot on. As long as we have players with significant value sitting on the bench then Moyes is just being stubborn in refusing to deal.
Yes, Kenwright gives him no support but we could have a far better TEAM if Moyes let certain players leave from positions we have strength and then used the money raised to strengthen the areas we are short ie, forwards and right midfield.
If we have no money then we can't afford to have £20M sat on the bench...
16 Posted 27/12/2010 at 22:39:29
17 Posted 27/12/2010 at 22:38:24
What I will not be able to stomach is if we do go on another good run which mirrors last season. And a cup run which sees us in the semis or final is Big Billy Blueshit lauding in the press and on TV (I can feel my blood boiling by the thought of it). That is what really grinds my gears, the utter nerve of the man. Disappearing act when we struggle, lapping it up when we do get a bit of relative success.
Do us all a favour Kenwright and spare us the cringeworthy bollocks, you are not fooling anyone. (OK, Doddy still loves you... but you get my drift.)
18 Posted 27/12/2010 at 22:45:22
I reckon the main reason operation '24/7' has failed is because all those with fingers in the Everton pie don't have the slightest intention of leaving without showing a handsome profit on their non-investment in the club.
It's a bit like saying I've been trying 24/7 to sell my old 80s Lada car, there's just no buyers about. Can't understand why I'm only asking £20k for it?
19 Posted 27/12/2010 at 23:17:35
20 Posted 27/12/2010 at 23:25:19
21 Posted 27/12/2010 at 23:28:10
All I'm suggesting is the reason the club hasn't been sold to date is because the asking price is too high. Or don't you agree with that synopsis?
22 Posted 27/12/2010 at 23:28:45
We need a big investor (but not chicken farmers). Until then we have to swap some, sell some and try also to get some on loan such as another Landon Donovan if possible.
Sure, we have some players to sell but, apart from Pienaar, we would take a heavy hit in the loss department for the likes of Yakubu and Bily who cannot get a run in the team, so people would be offering peanuts and I doubt Kenwright would be tempted to offload too cheaply. Still, that's the way it is at the moment and, without the big investor, it will remain so.
23 Posted 27/12/2010 at 23:30:02
Well they usually find a few quid from somewhere eventually, often the result of some fire sales. Which is why the Gosling debacle still rankles.
You also have to ask yourself whether it will still be as easy to uncover the Colemans of this world. No matter what people think of David Moyes, he has done the club proud in some of his deals. Has anyone totalled up recently what he has spent versus the money coming in, since he has come to Goodison?
24 Posted 27/12/2010 at 23:47:33
? We have a small squad and relatively low wage bill for a team with an average crowd of 36,000;
? We consistently finish high up in the league, and have embarked on several European runs and made it to a Cup Final;
? We often sell players for large amounts (it was only 16 bloody months ago we received £24 million for Lescott!) and spend far less on replacements;
? We have a large fanbase wasting £80 a season on both new replica shirts etc.
So ... HOW THE FUCK ARE WE ALWAYS SO SKINT?!!
Is it literally impossible to even run a modern football club on an even keel nowadays? I don't know why I even bother following the game anymore...
25 Posted 28/12/2010 at 00:03:55
26 Posted 28/12/2010 at 00:14:06
I reckon it's all going to service debts acquired on the surety of shareholdings.
Just my view obviously but I bet it won't be too far off the mark.
27 Posted 28/12/2010 at 00:13:27
At the end of the day, the cunt has never made anything himself and is just a glorified ticket tout for other people's plays; hiring venues and employing actors and staff for the short run each show is on for. He hasn't a clue about medium- and long-term business strategies.
He has borrowed big against the club from Green to buy the club, buyout the Greggs through the face of Earl, and Green looked for his return/get-out through the retail attached to Desperation Kirkby. BK fucked that one up and the cash lines have been withdrawn by Green ? lo and behold, we switch to sell-to-buy mode but with the smallest squad in the EPL. That isn't a method with much mileage in it unless you have a team of galacticos with more waiting in the youth squad.
So, Jimmy, with the poor-sighted loans such as Bear Stearns, mortgages and lack of commercial development, I rest the state of the club's perilous finances right at BK's door. Don't forget, we got to the FA Cup Final with two Wembley appearances and have had reasonable runs in the Europa League and it's got us fuck all financially. So you are right: BK isn't squirrelling money away, the creditors are calling for it back from all the mortgages and loans BK signed up to.
28 Posted 27/12/2010 at 23:28:27
The clearest indication has been the lack of media moments from the aforementioned Kenwright. Whenever something remotely good is happening he will always be leading the line for the media whenever he thinks he will get praised.
In tough times, however, he never utters a word. A true leader.
29 Posted 28/12/2010 at 01:49:30
For me, the club to watch is Chelsea, because they need 4-5 players just to hang onto the other three's coat tails... Now, if they don't spend big, either it's because Abramovich has tired of his trainset and realises that, no matter how much money is thrown at it, it will never be enough ? or That's yer lotti, Ancelotti!!!
But back to Everton: we the fans will have to get used to being only able to spend what we earn, the days of easy money, with the probable exception of the global brands, have gone.
30 Posted 28/12/2010 at 06:50:18
Peter Johnson? This useless gobshite is WORSE than Peter Johnson.
31 Posted 28/12/2010 at 10:05:23
I wonder what type of squad we would have had without Rooney and then Lescott being sold, but obviously there has never been any surplus kitty without sales, so it begs the question: Who's next? Rodwell, I suppose.
The recent whooping it up by Elstone regarding the £12M Chang deal also means nothing to the fans, they couldn't care less unless that money is evident in transfer funds.
What a pitiful state we appear to be in, only £1M spent with comings and goings in the summer, and now the begging bowls out in the winter. Time to come clean, Mr Chairman, I am watching this space intently.
32 Posted 28/12/2010 at 10:10:49
33 Posted 28/12/2010 at 11:34:55
Either play them or sell them has to be the order of the day, surely, if we're as skint as we're being told we are?
34 Posted 28/12/2010 at 11:32:26
Finally, when we pick up a few injuries later in the season, people will be complaining that we sold Yak et al in order to buy one player when we needed them as cover and we already had a really small squad.
As for where does the money go, does anyone know how much money goes to servicing the loans Bill got from his friends in order to buy the club?
35 Posted 28/12/2010 at 12:28:02
I know this is just depressing speculation but even if we sold, say, Bily, Heitinga (who I hope stays!), Vaughan and Yakubu for, ooh, £15 million, I would imagine us buying a striker for about £6 million, a defender on loan and that's yer lot. The other £9 million would never be heard of again and we will be skint again in the summer.
36 Posted 28/12/2010 at 12:32:12
Bily ? if we sell we will get about £6million, his career/reputation has gone backwards since arriving.
Yakubu ? if we sell we will get about £2 million due to his contract and fitness.
Heitinga ? £6-8million, we should really just start playing him.
Anichebe ? 6 months left, 4/5 goals in 2 years....£500k-1million
Vaughan ? £1million or so.
Also, with all these sales, if none of them request a transfer, we must pay them each a loyalty bonus.
37 Posted 28/12/2010 at 13:00:47
Moyes says that it will be a tough ask to bring any strikers in who are good enough to get in our team, well that's a laughable statement considering Saha has no league goal for nearly a year, Yakubu is a shadow of his former self, and Beckford has just came from playing the likes of Tranmere and Yeovil every week.
38 Posted 28/12/2010 at 13:11:14
There are a multitude of reasons for this and there is credible arguments as to whether Rupert Murdoch, Roman Abramovich, Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Bill Kenwright and others to blame. David Moyes is not on this list. In 8 seasons to finish 6 of them 8th or higher in the Premier League is simply an outstanding achievement. To finish 4th compared to the net spending of Spurs who have achieved the same feat only once is beyond reproach.
There have been many mistakes along the way, many down to the chairman. This isn't, or at least doesn't seem to be something that will change in the near future. However, if it were, would Everton Football Club be in a stronger position? Who is to say... but the fact is, since 2000, football in England has changed beyond recognition and Everton have been amongst the top 8 more often than not with basically no financial clout.
There may be a time when Everton win the league again but I doubt it. It's what it is and it has to be accepted by everyone. I could say most on this website are delusional moaners with no grasp of reality but I'd rather put it down to the love of this wonderful, historic, great club we support...
But remember ? nil satis nisi optimum is a motto and it's just that. You can strive for the best but it's not always in reach.
39 Posted 28/12/2010 at 14:47:45
"We are all in the gutter..."
40 Posted 28/12/2010 at 15:04:26
41 Posted 28/12/2010 at 20:08:50
42 Posted 28/12/2010 at 21:05:06
43 Posted 28/12/2010 at 21:52:45
44 Posted 28/12/2010 at 22:20:31
I watched a substandard game of football today against West Ham and find that I am, bit by bit, losing interest... NOT ONE of the current team would ever be an Everton legend in my opinion. They are basically journeymen who would not get into any of the top four or five teams. None of them really excite me and I yearn for the times when forwards scored hat-tricks for us and we beat teams by four or five.
I don't blame DM... he is trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. His tactics are directly related to the paucity of decent players we have at the club. We will continue to scramble enough points to get by and continue to bleat about bad luck and missed chances. Where are our emerging youngsters?? They must be pretty dire if they cannot get into our present first team.
45 Posted 28/12/2010 at 22:47:34
Whether or not the three forwards on the bench have been doing it this season makes no odds ? they are all proven goalscorers and we need to stick with them a) because we have no funds to strengthen in January, and b) because obviously we are losing Tim Cahill in January.
For me, Moyes needs to stop being so negative and again today he has blamed a lack of finishing for us not taking all 3 points and he only has himself to blame. Playing without a forward in the Premier League is just not the right recipe for success.
Like I saId, I accept the form of Beckford, Yakubu and Saha has not been great this term but their is no better place to start than at Stoke on New Years Day.
46 Posted 28/12/2010 at 23:05:38
Does Bill live in the same house as he did when he acquired the club? I mean I know he has borrowed up to his eyeballs against the club but after finishing the the European spots for nearly every season of Moyes's tenure, there must have been some money gone somewhere and my guess is we could see it in Bill's Assets??? New Aston maybe?
47 Posted 28/12/2010 at 23:13:19
Selling these bench strikers is a must but of course he won't now that Cahill will be missing next week. Anichebe is not an out-and-out striker but even he keeps shooting himself in the foot for one reason or another.
Everything comes back to Cahill who just cannot go it alone. Make the moves Moyes or get out for pity's sake.
48 Posted 29/12/2010 at 04:49:13
Players I would rather not see wearing the Everton strip:
Players earning their paycheque:
Cahill (though not today)
49 Posted 29/12/2010 at 15:06:12
If he has £12 Million to spend do you really expect him to say in the December press we have £12 Million to spend?
Far better to say we are skint and negotiate hard with other parties for players (not only the transfer fee but agent fees and the players' wages too).
50 Posted 29/12/2010 at 15:26:19
51 Posted 29/12/2010 at 18:28:37
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