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Absolutely fantastic what a win can do. Great performance tonight which immediately lifted my depression. My nerves were at snapping point for last 20 mins but the results went brilliantly for us tonight. Think I've now developed OCD and post-traumatic stress disorder.

Coleman Man of the Match. Arteta did well second half as did Fellaini, Neville and the lot of them really.

I'm now listening to the kopites whining on the Merseyside phone-in. Heaven!

Congratulations, Everton.... Well done, Blackburn.

We must nail the red filth into their coffins in 10 days time. Take 6 points off them this season and they're in big trouble. Imagine their faces if they go down. Just imagine it !!

I know I'm getting carried away but just want to sing, "The City's All Ours" at them.
Mike Hughes, Wirral     Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:03:17

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Peter Evans
1   Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:21:35

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Great comment. What a fantastic night of footy. Can't wait to watch motd, well played lads and let's hope we can beat the reds now to put a bit of a gap from bottom. Two up front aswel more of the same please mr Moyes. Yeahhhhhh
Joe McMahon
2   Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:25:22

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Quote from the BBC website:
"Everton boss Moyes, with leading scorer Tim Cahill away with Australia at the Asia Cup, finally opted for two strikers when he paired Jermaine Beckford and Saha up front - and was rewarded almost instantly." It's the word Finally isn't it, even the beeb has noticed it. C'mon Moyes keep it going, should have been done months/years ago!
Andrew James
3   Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:28:25

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I don't want to sound negative but we just played an attacking formation against the most attacking team in the Premiership but a side who also do concede goals. To play defensive would have been suicide therefore the logical option was to press for goals and see if we might score a couple and withstand any barrage with good battling and organisation.

Not sure we'll play that formation away from home against teams who want to park the bus.

Would be exciting if we did though!
Alan Clarke
4   Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:29:17

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Lets hope it continues. Moyes only makes changes when they're forced on him. He only moved Arteta into the middle because he had to. He only put Coleman in the side because everything else had failed. Lets hope he's stumbled onto a winning combination now and sticks with it. This was different to the City win because we actually outplayed Spurs tonight and should have won by a lot more.
Craig Bellew
5   Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:29:15

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He didn't have a choice going 4-4-2.

DM had tried the the 4-5-1 for many moons now without luck especially this season, then the west ham game enough said. He has had ample opportunities home and away to go 4-4-2 and only when Cahill has gone and he has no other options left he has gone for it and the result and performance speaks for itself.

The game on this weekend will be the true test of whether he believes in the 4-4-2 formation we have all been shouting for for so long, I wouldnt hold my breath in waiting to see a similar line up or formation and have a feeling DM will revert back to HIS tried and trusted 4-5-1 but if he does and the result goes against us I dread to see the fall out after the final whistle.

I will just enjoy tonights performance and result and hope that DM has had a knock on the head and now believes 4-4-2 is the future.

Onwards and upwards I hope from here on in but wont hold mybreath on the formation especially when timmy returns. Great result. great nite and cheers lads. That performance should be a bench mark at minimum for the remainder of the season.

Oh, I forgot ? cheers and a big thank you to Blackburn, apparently the Merseyside footie phone-in is jam packed with all them beauts whining about Woy this Woy that. I say give him the keys to the effing city and knight him all at the same time. Brilliant job, Woy !!
Guy Hastings
6   Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:36:20

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Fellaini MotM by a country mile, Arteta getting back on track, Howard with some terrific reflex stuff, Beckford will come good next season. Coleman... aaah, now here's a work in progress. In the area with the ball at his feet, he has moments of fantastic vision. When he's on a run, which is supposedly his strongest point, he's prone to moments of Heads Down No Nonsense Mindless Boogie. Mind you, defences don't know what to do with him. Perhaps they ought to watch P Nev on Bale.
Dave Lynch
7   Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:49:32

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Guy @ 6.
Great observation mate, i thought Pip did a right number on Bale, the darling of the press.

Ayone who doubts his worth to the team should watch the game again and observe how he shackled him up all night.

It came to the point where Bale was having to drift into the middle to get any ball and was nowhere as effective as he is out wide.

Great performance by the skipper.
Peter Webster
8   Posted 05/01/2011 at 22:57:35

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Guy Hastings

Heads Down No Nonsense Mindless Boogie. You and Everton have made my night. Never in my wildest dreams would I have linked the toffees with Albertos and the paranoid three. Off to laugh at Hansen on MOTD now.
Tom Bowers
9   Posted 05/01/2011 at 23:09:14

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A terrific result at the right time. However ,remember what happened after we beat City and let's hope we can get some wins together starting with Liverpool and West Ham so that there can be some daylight between us and the bottom 3.
Dave Lynch
10   Posted 05/01/2011 at 23:12:12

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Just got onto that Guy.

Albertos los trios paranoios.

Matthew Salem
11   Posted 05/01/2011 at 23:00:14

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2 years ago we had an atrocious record against the top teams but could more or less count on 1:0 wins against the West Hams and Wigans in the league. This year, the opposite. How bizzarre.
David Edwards
12   Posted 06/01/2011 at 00:30:23

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That's better! Moyes is forced to go positive for once with the team selection and look what happens! Really pleased, but why does it take an enforced change due to Cahill's absence for Moyes to get 2 up front at last!

The status quo has been shaken and about bloody time too! Let's hope it's not a false dawn (like the City game) and Moyes doesn't retreat into his shell tactically again. The players are happier, us fans are pleased ? it's not rocket science ? any recent Toffeeweb poster could have told him.

More of the same, please... 4-4-2 must be given more pitch time!
Tony J Williams
13   Posted 06/01/2011 at 00:44:23

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Andrew No 3, that's what all the lads at the match said. Spurs allow you to play, whereas Stoke are at you every minute of the game.

It's all well and good saying that 4-4-2 won that game, it didn't (because it was 4-4-1 with Beckford) but other teams are not as gung ho as Spurs and that 4-4-2 would have been punished.

Then again the "fm managers" on here will state that 4-4-2 is the way to go for every game etc....
Chris Bannantyne
14   Posted 06/01/2011 at 02:08:25

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I know there is a burning argument on ToffeeWeb regarding the formation of the squad. 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 4-3-3 and all varients of them.

Previously I had been a big supporter of Moyes and his tactics, however the last two seasons I have found myself leaning towards the anti-Moyes brigade.

Tonight SEEMED to prove that those who have been screaming for a 4-4-2 formation had got it right. I was certainly happy to see that set up at the kickoff. I also was pleased to see virtually the exact same starting lineup that I would play take the field.

However I am realistic enough to note that one game is absolutely no indication of whether this formation best suits our squad. In saying that though, I WOULD say that this game was probably our best of the season so far, the quality of our players really started to show. I would like to see more of this lineup and formation until such time as it is proven to be ineffective (IF it is proven to be ineffective that is.) Prior to this game our formation and player positioning has been awful (even in the few games we have won).

In any case, I hope that regardless of whether this 4-4-2 lineup remains a success or not, I hope Moyes moves positively instead of stubbornly sticking to the same 4-5-1 and out-of-position player positions.

Come on you Blues! Let us climb out of this shitheap, finish the season in Europe, get rid of the Chairman and see if all the "if Moyes had money" proponents are correct. I'm sick of being an average team, especially one that continuously runs second to the RS.
Brian Keating
15   Posted 06/01/2011 at 08:02:07

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All the talk is about the formation again. Yeah, we won with 4-4-2, but what actually won Everton the game was the players actually playing to their potential for a change.

Felliani was brilliant, Saha actually scored, Beckford did a decent job of closing down and looking threatening, Arteta remembered to pass the ball forward, Neville played to his defensive strengths and kept Bale quiet, Baines was excellent defensively and Coleman was absolutly top drawer.

If the players put in that amount of effort every week, we'd be much higher up the league regardless of formation.
Zack Yusof
16   Posted 06/01/2011 at 08:42:35

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Formations are there to be used and exploited on a game-to-game basis. Just see how many different formations someone like Jose Mourinho gets through in a single game. I can't argue with the man's success rate too...

Let's hope last night as the start of a new era, of positive, tactically astute football at Goodison.
Chris Briddon
17   Posted 06/01/2011 at 09:04:10

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For those of you who didn't notice ? we played exactly the same formation we always play, just the personnell were different with Saha playing in Cahills place and Beckford up front. The only slight difference was that Saha didn't drop quite so deep when we lost the ball.

All this 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 talk is garbage anyway, as when Cahill plays he never plays as a midfield player when we have the ball and was nearly always playing as another striker.

As others have said, the difference tonight was that Spurs wanted to come out and play, compared to a Wigan or Wolves or other who will sit back and defend. That's when we have the issues of inability to score.
Iain Love
18   Posted 06/01/2011 at 08:47:32

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Agree with Brian 17. Moyes sets up the formation depending on the opposition, sometimes wrongly in my eyes, but none of us has the same information that he has, ie how are players feeling, fitness, injuries, niggles etc etc. I do think he lucks into things but don't we all.
Anyway, good performance and how can anyone slag Fellaini (on the live forum) ? he keeps the team ticking.
Brian Waring
19   Posted 06/01/2011 at 09:17:49

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Not being funny Iain, but whenever has Moyes set up the formation depending on the oposition? Up to tonight, he has played the same formation since the year dot, no matter who we play.
Tony Waring
20   Posted 06/01/2011 at 09:50:10

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Tend to agree with Brian #17. It's not simply a question of formation ? as mentioned elsewhere ? but 100% commitment by all players. I honestly think that you should have two strikers or recognised goal scorers playing all games. If one sits just behind the other so what?

Saying that we can only play this type of game against the likes of Spurs surely misses the point. Both sides attacked and, in our case at least, our guys got back to defend when it mattered. You need a little luck and we got it against Spurs at times last night but we have to show the same desire to get forward against lesser teams who do NOT pose the same threat going forward. If we can handle the likes of Spurs and Man City, we surely can contain the West Hams of this world? It may be a cliche but attack is the best form of defence.

Having said all that, I thought everyone played well last night and even Arteta looked better at long last. Beckford missed a couple but his general awareness was spot on. I would however like to see Bily given a chance in this type of formation. He's the guy who can shoot accurately from a distance and might well have scored in last night's game ? only conjecture I know. For the moment, let's be happy and ruminate on a similar result at Anfield in the near future.

Noel Lynam
21   Posted 06/01/2011 at 13:23:34

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Brian Keating, I pretty much agree with everything you say. However, some other things came to mind watching last night.

(1) Neville really looked up for it. I am not his greatest fan but perhaps it was his influence rubbed off on others? Just a question, not a statement.

(2) Heitinga (and Distin for that matter) is infinitely more composed under pressure and comfortable on the ball than Jagielka. Despite enjoying the occasional diagonal "direct pass" he always looks to play out from the back and does not panic under pressure. Which is probably why his OG count is nowhere near Jagielka's.

(3) For the first time I can recall this season, we consistently got men in the box time and time again. For too long it had been just Cahill, with even our sole striker drifting out rather than staying in there.
David Mathieson
22   Posted 06/01/2011 at 14:38:32

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(#13) Sure you contradict yourself: "(because it was 4-4-1 with Beckford) but other teams are not as gung ho as Spurs and that 4-4-2 would have been punished."

It was a 4-4-2 yesterday, long overdue... and what a surprise ? Heitinga played well in his natural position.

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