1) No Pienaar on the bench vs Scunthorpe, fair enough if we are going to sell him.
2) Chelsea in the cup, at home, which is as much as you can ask for all things considered. Forget the 24-year rule (goodbye tenner), The Europa League looks to be a bit iffy at best. So it's us for the Cup of last resort.
3) Chelsea in for Pienaar?? ...back up the bus. IF this is true, where does that leave our last chance of glory, even our last chance of a few bob from the cup run?
If we play our best team and attitude a la Spurs we can do them over, onward and upward.
Or... Do we roll over and have our tummy tickled and sod the cup run?
Well BK? DM? Whatcha gonna do about it?
Pass Go, Collect £200 (in old money = 30 pieces of silver) or take a chance???
Derek Thomas, Posted 10/01/2011 at 08:55:21
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1 Posted 10/01/2011 at 14:42:52
2 Posted 10/01/2011 at 15:16:22
Michael, were you drunk when you edited this post???
3 Posted 10/01/2011 at 15:28:11
Go for everything, from now until the end of season go out and attack every team we play against.
Stuff negativity and let them worry about us.
4 Posted 10/01/2011 at 15:30:12
Yak not cup-tied
Pienaar not cup-tied..
so sell them both now!!!
this little run we are on is doing nothing for our chances of getting some new faces around the place in this window.
5 Posted 10/01/2011 at 15:33:07
Look at all his posts... maybe he drinks a lot!
6 Posted 10/01/2011 at 15:50:11
Derek Thomas responding to Colin O'Keefe's earlier post.
He then comes up with this little gem.
7 Posted 10/01/2011 at 15:51:10
8 Posted 10/01/2011 at 15:55:07
9 Posted 10/01/2011 at 16:07:59
Yes, he's a busy little player who works hard but is he replaceable? - yes.
10 Posted 10/01/2011 at 17:33:54
11 Posted 10/01/2011 at 18:39:29
12 Posted 10/01/2011 at 19:52:33
If as the papers are claiming, both Chelsea and Spurs are in for Pienaar (wouldn't necessarily believe that though!), worth trying to push up the price and sell?
13 Posted 10/01/2011 at 20:05:42
Despite the improvement in the last couple of games, I have no faith in Moyes (or his tactics) when we play top opposition ...1 win in 9 yrs v Chelsea isn't it.. and I dont expect things to be any different in this cup tie.
I realise I will probably be in the minority but it's just my opinion... Let's just see if I am wrong... as I would love to be...!!
14 Posted 10/01/2011 at 21:41:12
Maybe we could throw in Cahill as a make-weight in Pienaar's move... According to some of our home grown geniuses, Tim has no place in our manager's belated tactical reniassance.
15 Posted 11/01/2011 at 03:29:30
1. A lot of you think Pienaar was crap until he came to Merseyside and was "magically" transformed into the player that he is now: well, the fact is while at Ajax Pienaar was regarded as one of the best attacking midfielders in Europe, he was playing in the Cahill area as well as right midfield / right wing and kept a little Dutch player by the name Wesley Sneijder on the bench. He was playing alonside great players like Van de Vaart, De Jong, Ibrahamovic and Heitinga.
Also, one season he was second to Robben for the Player of the Year in the Dutch League... so the player is class. This brings me to:
Enough said, Pienaar is class.
16 Posted 11/01/2011 at 09:21:29
IMO Pienaar is a decent/good player but he IS NOT great. If we could have gotten some one like Bentley, I don't think he would be missed that much.
17 Posted 11/01/2011 at 11:56:50
But then again, the question you are asking is unfair because one would ask: if Arteta is so good then why didn't he make it at Real Sociedad? I mean flippn Real Sociedad!! And yet people like you Niel think he is a soccer god, my word!! Pienaar again, I repeat, when on song, is class.
18 Posted 11/01/2011 at 13:21:11
19 Posted 11/01/2011 at 13:40:15
20 Posted 12/01/2011 at 03:16:06
So the Club won't have to agonise about putting out our strongest team Vs Chelsea, beating them, and going on a season-saving cup run and who knows, maybe going one step further and winning it.
Or taking the money for Pienaar and have him 'diplomatically injured' for the game.
Thank you, gentlemen, for your support, everytime I wear it I will think of you.
21 Posted 12/01/2011 at 13:13:47
I do not think ANY footballer is a god of any description.
As I've said, IMO Pienaar is a decent/good player on his day but he IS NOT a great one and he IS NOT irreplaceable.
For your info, I think players the calibre of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi etc are CLASS and I'm afraid Pienaar is nowhere near their level... FACT!!
22 Posted 12/01/2011 at 18:13:44
Anyway, like I said, I understand what you mean and I agree Pienaar did not live up to his potential, otherwise he could have made it to the level guys like Sneijder are in; at best (when on top form), he can be described as a very good player.
Comparing him and Arteta, I would take him over Arteta any day Pienaar can play in a number of positions and he is actually good not decent in all of them; Arteta, on the other hand, flopped at right-wing and is currently struggling at centre-mid (don't even get me started on his sideway passes).
All-in-all, Neil, I never meant any disrespect and was just tired of some fans thinking that Pienaar has been made by Everton; the guy was great at Ajax and won titles with Koeman.
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