Jus heard a couple of what I will call rumours that Chris Eagles is having a medical at Finch Farm and that (thankfully IMO) Mbokani has failed to get a work permit. I don't know how true the Eagles leak is because it didn't come from my normal source and I believe we are also in strongly for Adam Hamill. My reason for posting is to ask other TWers what they think of these players.
Personally, I think Eagles has been inconsistent and haven't seen enough of Hamill or Mbokani to offer a reasonable opinion except to say it looks like we're scraping the barrel again letting Yobo, Yak and Pienaar (all experienced Premier League players) go for nowt and getting untried players in.
Not a recipe for greatness I'm afraid.
Jay Harris, Posted 13/01/2011 at 15:49:32
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1 Posted 14/01/2011 at 03:07:49
Whether Pienaar stays or goes, I personally think that this would be an excellent peiece of ,business.
Eagles is certainly Premier League class, and the sort of signing Moyes makes to look like a bargain.
2 Posted 14/01/2011 at 03:21:03
3 Posted 14/01/2011 at 03:49:11
What I've seen of Mbokani makes me hope he doesn't get a work permit. Average at best. If he could donate the rest of his body to Yaks two feet we might be able to make a player! He doesn't look like a goalscorer, and lets face it, that's what we desperately need.
4 Posted 14/01/2011 at 04:46:48
We do need to bring some sort of striker is his place though. We don't know who it will be, but someone will probably show up. I have to say though, I like the potential I see in Beckford. I love his pace and quickness and enthusiasm. I know he's missed a few chances but I have to believe that regular inclusion in the team, which he is getting right now, will calm this nerves and he will be very dangerous.
5 Posted 14/01/2011 at 05:14:31
6 Posted 14/01/2011 at 05:59:19
7 Posted 14/01/2011 at 06:07:43
8 Posted 14/01/2011 at 07:21:40
By the way Rumours - a good album !!!
9 Posted 14/01/2011 at 08:12:26
10 Posted 14/01/2011 at 08:39:36
I am in no doubt that the apathetic attitude that exists amongst our fans has been partly to blame for this lack of ambition at our once great club.
I have just shook my head in disbelief at some fans trying to put a positive spin on us signing Chris fuckin Eagles!!Dear oh dear.
11 Posted 14/01/2011 at 08:57:08
12 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:03:17
It is odd though that the African connection appears to be being dismantled by Moyes - Yak and Yobo out on loan, Pienaar set to leave and rumours of Anichebe too.
If Pienaar and Vaughan go, as seems entirely possible - I hope Moyes is able to bring in a wide right, wide left and centre forward to replace them. We will have lost 3 players, so I only expect 1 or 2 in at most however!
13 Posted 14/01/2011 at 08:59:59
Did you shake your head in disbelief at the prospective signings of Cahill, Pienaar,Coleman,Jagielka etc. who came from the lower leagues or obscurity? IF he comes, lets give the lad a chance before judging him,eh?
I do agree, though, with your comments re the lack of ambition in the hierarchy of our club, starting with Blue Bill, busy shuffling money from one debt to service another...with nothing left to agrrange a loan signing, FFS.
14 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:09:00
15 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:21:55
16 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:30:47
He won't cost much and as we are always crying about needs width and pace, I don't see what the problem is.
He can play on both flanks and will be a perfect replacement for the outgoing South African.
Where people expecting Malouda?
17 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:33:07
18 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:39:58
19 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:36:45
20 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:49:44
21 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:51:52
22 Posted 14/01/2011 at 09:56:19
Will prove to be an astute signing for £ 1.5 mill.
23 Posted 14/01/2011 at 10:03:57
Seems some people jumping on the bandwagon. Louis, you should go to Goodison and watch us play... it's fantastic. The atmosphere before the game, the din in the stadium (provided we are playing well of cos) and the feeling after the game (provided we win of cos). I've been lucky (at times unlucky hehe) enough to watch the lads play while they were in Thailand and in GP.
In case you have not realise, I'm Singaporean too.
24 Posted 14/01/2011 at 10:05:18
Good luck Tim, in all you do, and lets hope the lads dont let him and us down, on Sunday.
25 Posted 14/01/2011 at 10:14:01
26 Posted 14/01/2011 at 10:13:38
27 Posted 14/01/2011 at 10:32:54
28 Posted 14/01/2011 at 10:35:53
Eagles came on as a sub and scored soon after. Well taken too.
29 Posted 14/01/2011 at 10:37:27
30 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:04:01
We're not letting Yak or Yobo go for nowt; and don't know yet about Pienaar.
[Loans take players off wage bill and come with small fees, and are either followed up by more cash in close season or they return to the selling club; whereas sales only include downpayments of between 25-50%]. There is not as big a difference between sales and loans as many fans believe.
Yobo and Yak should bring £8 million in, all of which I would put on a striker in the summer.
31 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:06:08
Eagles is quality, is far, far to good for the championship and is ideally suited for Everton. I agree he has been inconsitent but playing at the level he should be, and for Moyes/Everton where slackers are not excepted, he will be and great addition to the squad.
Hamill I have never seen, but as I live in the east midlands I have a lot of mates who watch the championship (Derby, Forest and Leicester). All of them have said that this kid is a different class. Someone even suggested that against Forest this season he was spray passes as good as David Beckham, so i would have some of that.
Can't see us signing Eagles and Hamill though.
32 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:10:51
33 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:15:36
Where are we going!
34 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:22:07
35 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:33:17
36 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:36:36
37 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:38:47
Although claret fans love eagles they are mostly resigned to the fact that he will leave if a premiership team comes in for him. So if the deal was sweetened with Vaughan going in the opposite direction, I think Burnley would be by far the happier team.
38 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:50:09
Also, I can't see a swap with James Vaughan happening as Burnley are still yet to appoint a perminant Manager.
39 Posted 14/01/2011 at 11:58:44
Cahill was well known as a good attacking midfielder who scored goals,Jags was also covetted as a defender/midfielder,Pienaar was a regular for Ajax and tried to go onto bigger things in the German league.
Chris fuckin eagles is NOT a regular at BURNLEY!!!
Its not the fact he is a championship player, because there are bargains/good players to be had,its the fact a player he plays for a struggling championship side and is deemed worthy of playing for my Everton.
40 Posted 14/01/2011 at 12:15:45
Eagles more skiful than Pienaar? Debatable.
41 Posted 14/01/2011 at 12:31:46
42 Posted 14/01/2011 at 12:48:06
43 Posted 14/01/2011 at 13:07:14
44 Posted 14/01/2011 at 13:09:57
45 Posted 14/01/2011 at 13:20:53
46 Posted 14/01/2011 at 13:25:25
Can someone help me out?
Since when did it become neccessary to "raise funds" to get a loan signing?? Am I being completely naive and not appreciating what a bunch of incompetent cunts the powers that be actually are?
What next? We can't afford a free agent??
Also... @ Matt 27: Because the powers that be are a bunch of incompetent cunts.
47 Posted 14/01/2011 at 13:53:48
48 Posted 14/01/2011 at 13:55:41
So, if Pienaar signs a pre - contract agreement with a european club, that then means we don't get zilch for him,
because he sees his contract out with us, and moves on in the summer.
49 Posted 14/01/2011 at 13:52:38
Yes we've had a couple of good results against the top sides this season and we'll all be ecstatic this Sunday when we beat the Redshite but the long term future of our club is pretty grim. That's a whole different topic though which we've been through many times.
50 Posted 14/01/2011 at 13:59:53
51 Posted 14/01/2011 at 14:20:43
52 Posted 14/01/2011 at 14:33:40
53 Posted 14/01/2011 at 14:08:53
By the way, just heard Carlo Ancelotti denie these reports about Pienaar rejecting a move!!! He suggested it was a case of a player using another clubs name to get more money elsewhere. Hmmmm!
54 Posted 14/01/2011 at 14:43:11
55 Posted 14/01/2011 at 14:53:06
56 Posted 14/01/2011 at 14:48:54
He has proved he can play in the prem, and could easily do a job for us.
If this rumour turns out to be true, and he plays well for us. Could we please not have the headlines of ' Moyes turns another championship player into a star ' This lad has already proved he can play at the top level.
57 Posted 14/01/2011 at 14:57:01
Eagles on the other hand is, at best, average and inconsistent and already playing at his true level. I don't see him improving at all.
58 Posted 14/01/2011 at 15:04:01
59 Posted 14/01/2011 at 14:48:28
60 Posted 14/01/2011 at 15:33:52
61 Posted 14/01/2011 at 15:55:20
62 Posted 14/01/2011 at 16:06:59
Round pegs for round holes at least.
63 Posted 14/01/2011 at 16:58:56
64 Posted 14/01/2011 at 17:13:17
A few years ago, signings like Jagielka, Lescott, Cahill, etc were very good Championship players that should do well in the Premiership in a half decent team, which at the time, Everton were.
With the players that we have now, we should be better than half decent and looking at pushing on into Champions League positions. Although not bad signings, Eagles and Hammil are not the quality players that we currently need.
65 Posted 14/01/2011 at 17:28:54
66 Posted 14/01/2011 at 17:47:15
67 Posted 14/01/2011 at 18:07:18
The Eagles has Landed?
There's A nEw Kid in Town (The Eagles)
68 Posted 14/01/2011 at 18:34:44
Eagles has at least some experience of the prem and i reckon could be a cahill/jags esque signing.
I feel more confident of Moyes when he dips into the championship then into unknown european markets.
69 Posted 14/01/2011 at 19:04:18
They haven't exactly got the best track record in bringing through youth players and giving them a chance have they? If he was some Spanish kid called Adani Hamillio' then he might have had a chance there.
A lot of RS supporters think they made a mistake letting him go and aren't happy Everton might be in for him. I braved a red shite site (apologies) and i know they're nobheads but here's what they think of him:
"I always liked him and we don't currently have a player who can do what he does"
"he looks brilliant. A brick shithouse with pace, power, skill, a cracking shot, and the swagger of a superstar"
"Yeah we got rid of Hammill who had performed really really well on both of his loan moves, looked a different class from the rest when he came back in the reserves and kept the likes of Nabil el Zhar. It was fucking madness and I said so at the time."
"He looks extremely impressive in the video. It really is a must watch. Love the bit in which he almost twats Neville"
70 Posted 14/01/2011 at 21:09:01
Henchoz - why did he look like he had been slapped non-stop for days?
Diomede - anyone remember him?
Arphexad - again?
Smicer - actually pronounced slicer
Traore - even the RS called him Djimi the Plough
Sean Dundee - awful striker from SA
Antonio Nunez - injured on his first day of training, no pace, disappeared without a trace
Josemi - useless as a footballer
Kozma - Pitiful player
Lucas - the worst Brazilian since David Blunkett's Mrs asked him to shave her
Olive Oil's ugly mate - Aquilani - did he ever play?
71 Posted 14/01/2011 at 21:34:40
Didn't Chris Eagles sign a new 5 yr contract with Burnley in the summer?
72 Posted 14/01/2011 at 22:41:38
73 Posted 14/01/2011 at 22:43:06
Who could forget Rigobert Song and the invisible man from Chile, Gonzalez.. £9m he cost, played about 6 times and vanished off the face of the earth! And we think we've made some bad sigings!!! :) ha ha
74 Posted 15/01/2011 at 01:49:30
75 Posted 15/01/2011 at 03:30:54
Be a pleasure to help a fellow countryman.
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