According to his twitter feed, James Vaughan has gone back to Palace. Not sure, if it's a loan or permanent move.
With Saha being as fragile as my great-nan's hip, is it a good idea to get rid of another striker?
I'm still trying to get my head around sitting and then moving Yakubu, when he seemed to be finding some kind of form...
Paul Conatzer, Posted 26/01/2011 at 16:10:08
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1 Posted 26/01/2011 at 16:34:47
2 Posted 26/01/2011 at 16:31:29
I have heard there will be a peaceful protest at the Chelsea game ? well put me down for a noisy one as peaceful means a few chants and then a walk to the pub.
I don't want to see it happen but I can see that a large number will not take what has happened in this transfer window lightly. Season tickets will almost definitely be lower which could be the death of this club. If nothing changes before the summer, I fear the worst.
3 Posted 26/01/2011 at 16:45:12
4 Posted 26/01/2011 at 16:50:38
He is a headless chicken and Beckford, as bad as he is will score more goals than him. He will be earning a wedge sitting on the bench for the remainder of the season so why not punt him off and save his wages? He is obviously not in Moyes's plans.
5 Posted 26/01/2011 at 16:52:58
6 Posted 26/01/2011 at 16:55:46
7 Posted 26/01/2011 at 17:08:57
8 Posted 26/01/2011 at 17:14:21
9 Posted 26/01/2011 at 16:47:04
10 Posted 26/01/2011 at 17:21:02
Andrew, you do Bob a disservice. He was very deceptive. He was slower than he looked.
11 Posted 26/01/2011 at 17:26:08
Haha.....I agree....but what a goalscorer in a then poor Everton side....Davy Thomas providing the crosses.....Magic!!!
12 Posted 26/01/2011 at 17:47:31
Personally I like him. I've heard a lot of people describe him as "running around like a headless chicken". Even if that is the case putting him on for the last 15 minutes with his pace would create anxiety amongst defenders.
There was a very brief time when him and AJ looked to be the beginnings of an exciting strike partnership, I remember way back when thinking we only brought Yakubu in because of Vaughan's injury - seems funny now.
Anyway, he seems like a nice lad so I wish him all the best at Crystal Palace.
13 Posted 26/01/2011 at 18:53:49
14 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:02:29
She knows very little about football so she wouldn't make it up, so I don't want to put 1 and 1 together and make 3 but I shall be watching that space as they say...
15 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:02:23
As for Vaughan, I wish him well but really do you think he's a Premier League striker?? Fingers crossed Moyes knows what he's doing!! We desperately need someone... And soon!!!
16 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:10:42
17 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:19:47
18 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:29:04
I was always a defender at amateur level but I respected the good centre forwards I played with more than anyone. They could make things happen that the rest of us couldn't. I thought they were up their own arses but I could forgive them for being lazy and demanding at times because they won us games.
Even Saha himself spoke out recently about the joys of having a strike partner to make space for him.
Moyes's favourite forward was Marcus bloody Bent because he would run the channels all day. His finishing was shocking at times. Remind you of anyone at the club now?
Glad we didn't get Mbokani because I read an interview in which he stated that his frustration at Monaco was linked to his defensive responsibilities outweighing his attacking game. Sad times if you like goals.
19 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:35:39
We see a lot of posh cars down here that go the training ground, Yobo had a Black Bentley I often saw him as he lived in Woolton, and Fellaini recently cut me up in a Belgian plated Maserati coming out of Finch Lane and headed to the Runcorn Bridge at 120mph but sadly for him there was a one mile tailback at the bridge and I caught him up, haha.
20 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:43:14
21 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:44:57
22 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:55:45
23 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:34:07
Yak looked in good shape to me against Liverpool at home, scored a cracking goal against Stoke, then got dropped. It's not as if Yakubu ever relied on his pace like a Michael Owen so I'm not sure how the injury ruined him.
Maybe playing him down the middle rather than running down the flanks and giving him some support and service would mean scoring more than 5 goals a season...
24 Posted 26/01/2011 at 19:58:11
I hope Vaughan does well at Palace and goes on to have a fruitful career; he deserves a bit of luck after the injuries he has suffered.
25 Posted 26/01/2011 at 20:18:06
26 Posted 26/01/2011 at 20:46:07
Championship if not next season, it's the season after. And unlike Derby, Coventry, Leeds, Boro, Southampton, we have a wooden stadium. The Bill Kenwright era (and sadly involved Moyes) will have destroyed Everton FC.
27 Posted 26/01/2011 at 20:49:21
28 Posted 26/01/2011 at 20:48:24
The last few days of the transfer window, you are probalby going to see us linked with every Tom, Dick or Harry.
29 Posted 26/01/2011 at 21:52:20
30 Posted 26/01/2011 at 22:05:56
31 Posted 26/01/2011 at 22:27:08
32 Posted 26/01/2011 at 22:26:48
33 Posted 26/01/2011 at 23:50:56
I heard a vague rumour last week about Reading's Shane Long being at Finch Farm, obviously nothing to it.
34 Posted 27/01/2011 at 02:19:01
35 Posted 27/01/2011 at 02:44:12
36 Posted 27/01/2011 at 04:23:05
37 Posted 27/01/2011 at 04:22:23
It's a possibility. After all, I don't think we even have a business strategy team at the club!
At the rate we offload/loan out our strikers, we'll be playing 4-6-0 in no time!
38 Posted 27/01/2011 at 08:12:16
It's depressing and I want to go back to focusing on us being crap and missing the boat big time this year.
39 Posted 27/01/2011 at 08:58:17
The sad fact is that Anichebe has scored more Premier League goals in the last season than Vaughan... all of one. As I said, a very sad fact indeed.
40 Posted 27/01/2011 at 09:33:55
If not, then something has gone very badly wrong. I suppose it already has.
41 Posted 27/01/2011 at 09:28:43
42 Posted 27/01/2011 at 09:43:07
43 Posted 27/01/2011 at 10:00:57
Let's just hope the loans out of Yakubu and Vaughan aren't two big mistakes! Why don't we at least sell them so we'd actually have some money to spend on bringing in a replacement? There's no logic whatsoever!
44 Posted 27/01/2011 at 10:08:40
Anichebe quite blatantly is not of Premier League standard. Beckford as yet still unproven and needs games to adjust to the Prem (I'm not entirely convinced he'll make it but I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being).
Saha, well we'll be lucky if he plays another five or six full games for the remainder of the season. It looks like we're going to rely on Cahill once he's back for goals.
45 Posted 27/01/2011 at 11:18:13
Just ask Boro fans about his attitude when the month or two before he signed for us. Blantantly dis-interested. Although he may still make a comeback elsewhere, if he sorts his head out.
A ruptured achillies and a bad attitude ruined the Yak ? not Moyes.
46 Posted 27/01/2011 at 11:54:36
47 Posted 27/01/2011 at 13:06:19
48 Posted 27/01/2011 at 13:52:28
The same old Moyes plan will see us relying heavily on what we have left with the occasional strike from the midfield which has been below par this season. We can all see the problems but Moyes cannot. This should have been recognised much earlier in the season and possible loan players sounded out well before January. As it is we only have rumours about players we have enquired about but nothing concrete. Hard to believe we have aquired absolutely nobody to strengthen the squad for this season.
We will find it very difficult to get results against a resurgent Chelski on Saturday and Arsenal on Tuesday which could finally start the ball rolling for Moyes removal. Having said that, football is a funny old game and the Blues have played well against the better clubs this season so let's hope the trend continues.
49 Posted 27/01/2011 at 14:13:53
Assuming you weren't being sarcastic regarding 4-6-0.
But didn't the 1970s Total Football Ajax model involve not playing an out-and-out striker? Their philosophy being, good attacking midfielders can all attack from their positions when appropiate. Thereby being much harder for defences to mark.
50 Posted 27/01/2011 at 14:58:40
As for Ajax, I?m a few years too young to have appreciated them at the time, but my understanding - which may well be wrong - is that they essentially played a 4-3-3. Their fluidity derived from the adaptability of their outfield players, who could all slot in to multiple positions as and when required (so, in a sense you?re right, there were no strictly designated strikers), but there was still an expectation that the attacking roles would be filled at any given time (so, perhaps wrong in another sense).
You?re definitely right to point out that this isn?t necessarily a new thing though, it?s just that the idea hasn?t been widely embraced - at least not yet - although, when Ronaldo was still at United, their formation was sometimes interpreted as being a strikerless 4-2-4-0.
(I know that last bit is going to confuse the hell out of some people, who are going to be adamant that Rooney was, is and always will be a striker. Tough)
51 Posted 27/01/2011 at 18:05:16
52 Posted 27/01/2011 at 20:14:21
While Vaughan has lost his way he has always known where the goal is and looks like a striker, albeit one who has missed a great deal of development and laying time.
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