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This is beyond a joke.

Saha is out for month after damaging a hamstring in training.

What with Rodwell's injury for the U-21's this just sums up what it is like being an Everton supporter.

Exciting match restores a bit of optimism and then two important players ruled out for at least a month through needless injuries.

It's enough to drive me mad!


Gary Mortimer, Shsropshire     Posted 11/02/2011 at 09:57:41

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James Elworthy
1   Posted 11/02/2011 at 08:22:49

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There is a rumour Saha is out for a month...
James Elworthy
2   Posted 11/02/2011 at 09:47:20

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On various websites on the Newsnow site:
Everton have been hit with a second injury blow in days as Louis Saha faces a month out after pulling a hamstring in training.

The absence of the France striker is a massive blow to the club, and boss David Moyes, and comes hot on the heals of Thursday's news that Jack Rodwell is out for at least a month with a groin injury picked up on international duty.

Saha, who was hailed as one of the best finishers in world football last week after he netted four against Blackpool, has suffered with hamstring injuries throughout his career and it looks like the curse has struck again.

It means Moyes is likely to be without both Saha and Rodwell for the next month as he looks to guide the side away from a possible relegation battle.

Anthony Hughes
3   Posted 11/02/2011 at 09:49:41

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This week has summed Saha up perfectly. Brilliant on his day but just not reliable enough fitness wise to pin your hopes across a full season.
Tom Bowers
4   Posted 11/02/2011 at 13:29:42

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Now we are all being justified about our complaints regarding Yaks and Vaughan being let go and the non-events of the transfer window.... Just when we didn't need it Saha gets crocked again.

Well played, Moyes.

(Sorry about the cynicism but you didn't have to be a rocket scientist...)

Colin O'Keeffe
5   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:11:45

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The Echo are reporting that Louis Saha could be out for a number of weeks with a suspected hamstring strain. He's having scans today on the extent of the injury. This means it'll probably be Beckford up front on Sunday ? time for him to step up to the plate and raise his standards another notch or two.

Alternatively Moyes might play Anichebe for his physical presence, although his lack of genuine goal threat would be a worry.

Shaun Brennan
6   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:12:40

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One of the joys about being a Evertonian.
As soon as we turn a corner start to look good, something always happens.
Steven Astley
7   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:16:03

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What I don't understand is since the closure of the transfer window, why haven't we looked to the 'free' market in order to find a short term solution up top.

Most certainly now with this news of Saha, why can't we go in for a player like this Brazillian forward, Ewerthon, that was linked with Newcastle...
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11678_6742998,00.html
Howard Don
8   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:24:26

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The OS are now saying 10 days to two weeks.
Roberto Birquet
9   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:32:11

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Official site is saying two weeks. He is brilliant, he is made of glass. And of course, we must have an extra striker. Just hope we survive to the end of the season.
But what chance have we now got against Chelsea (eight days away)? Jeez!
Norman Merrill
10   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:28:20

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With Saha out, and the injury to Rodwell, the manager has Cahill ready, and will have to choose between Beckford, who has scored some fine goals, and Anichebe who has not played too often, and not found the net when he has.

It will be interesing to see what he decides.

Tony Cheek
11   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:31:23

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Once again, Saha sidelined with an injury in training. Does he ever get injured in a game? There cannot be another player that gets so many thigh strains and hamstring injuries in the PL.

4-4-2 then, with Cahill and Beckford up front, couldn't be better.

Chris Keightley
12   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:36:10

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Has to be Beckford from the start with Cahill as support striker ? Anichebe as impact player if it's tight with ten to go.
Anthony Millington
13   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:48:55

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It's no suprise to me, I knew Saha would get injured... he always does. This is why I can't understand why Moyes loaned out both Yakubu and Vaughan with no replacements. When Saha gets injured that leaves us with only Beckford and Anichebe, both unproven and the latter is also injury-prone. This decision to loan these two out can only do more harm than good if we get dragged into a relegation fight.
Andy Morden
14   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:54:09

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Time to be brave and play Anichebe AND Beckford in a 4-4-2? Cahill off the bench if we need to change things?
Brian Waring
15   Posted 11/02/2011 at 14:56:40

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It's hardly a suprise Saha picking up another injury. It was always a matter of when, not if with him.

Steven (#4) ? because we haven't the money to pay the wages.
Anthony Millington
16   Posted 11/02/2011 at 15:03:29

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Brian, you say we haven't got the money to pay wages for this Ewerthon guy so why did Kenwright say Moyes would have the Pienaar money (£3 million) available to spend? And why is Moyes wasting money on Eric Dier and this Greek lad who every knows won't get a game this season?

I'd much prefer it if we'd not have brought these two in and signed someone that can go straight into the first team now and help us push up the league and away from danger! Or not have signed them and kept Yak or Vaughan!
Trevor Lynes
17   Posted 11/02/2011 at 15:23:28

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I reckon that Beckford needs a big front man with him... Saha is out so Anichebe will start versus Bolton and Beckford will be the impact sub if needed!!
Mark Stone
18   Posted 11/02/2011 at 15:26:57

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Anthony(#14), where was it reported that Kenwright said Moyes could spend the £3m?
Colin Smith
19   Posted 11/02/2011 at 15:21:21

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Beckford or Big Vic ? a choice between a rock & a hard place. Beckford: not much in the way of first touch & link up play, but does get himself in goalscoring positions... or Big Vic, aka the Nigerian Jô, who has all of Beckford's failings + an inability and/or reluctance to punch his weight. I think Beckford should have the spot, backed up by Cahill, who is likely to take over from the injured Rodwell.
Kevin Jones
20   Posted 11/02/2011 at 15:25:44

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Every time Saha sprints for the ball, I shit me pants waiting for his hammy to explode. All teams have injuries, par for the course unfortunately. Cahill back in up front with Beckford with my Mum on the bench. Well she's 70 but still better than big Vic.
Tom Winek
21   Posted 11/02/2011 at 15:33:16

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@ Tom and Anthony ? Was it Moyes who gave the green light for Yak and Vaughan to be loaned out? I'm sure if it were down to him both would've remained at Goodison in January. Why would he want to significantly weaken his team?
Andy Boyer
22   Posted 11/02/2011 at 15:26:25

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Moyes shipped out Yakubu, Yobo and Vaughan because he was told to.

Why? To get them off the wage bill.....

Liam Reilly
23   Posted 11/02/2011 at 16:00:08

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As both Yak and JV are loan deals, can't they be recalled?

Or maybe try something on the side of outrageous and give the young Frenchman, or Baxter a shot... but nope, it'll be 4-5-1 with Victor and he'll be replaced at 75 mins by Beckford.

After last weeks stormer, we'll revert to type and try to snatch a 1-0.
Anthony Millington
24   Posted 11/02/2011 at 16:03:45

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If we're so skint then why don't we sell a couple of these players? What is the point in loaning them out when we could get them off the wage bill and bag a few million by selling them? We might actually have some money to replace them then! Of course, it's all Kenwright's fault! All hail Moyes!
Brian Waring
25   Posted 11/02/2011 at 16:16:39

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Kevin, I know all teams have injuries, but I have never known a player who has spent so much time in the treatment room as Saha. Even his time at Man Utd was littered with injuries, that's why they gave up on him and shipped him out.
Dave Lynch
26   Posted 11/02/2011 at 16:32:11

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Shaun @ 6.
What corner have we turned?
We beat Blackpool for gods sake!
Tony J Williams
27   Posted 11/02/2011 at 16:38:43

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Fellaini will be put upfront, Neville in midfield, Hibbert right back and Cahill back in. That sounds like a winner... not.
Eugene Ruane
28   Posted 11/02/2011 at 16:01:31

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Tom, you ask: "Why would he want to significantly weaken his team?"

I think the same thing each time Osman is selected.

Seriously though, any injury to Saha will illustrate the dire straits we're in.

It's one thing not to have the money to buy strikers like Tevez, but another when you have to loan out your VERY non-Tevez strikers to save on wages.

Plus to hear Moyes state a few days back that we were outspent in the transfer window by... Crawley Town was a low point.

Of course I don't blame him for that, but I do wonder why he isn't more vociferous about his lack of... well, anything from the useless fuck-wits who 'run' Everton.

Truly desperate.
Michael Kenrick
29   Posted 11/02/2011 at 16:54:05

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Eugene, you seem to have missed the latest message from the Moyesiah: "Everton are not club in decline," insists David Moyes:
?You can?t stand still but that doesn?t always mean you spend billions to make it happen,? he said. ?If that?s the case you're going to have two or three clubs who can do that and no one else.

?If you look at what Everton have done over eight or nine years I have tried to keep it moving slightly, nudging it up, nudging it up.

?We have not spent big money but we are competing with a lot of clubs who have spent big money. We are not far off.

?You have watched us play Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool. People say Everton are not doing brilliant, but why don?t they say look at the money over the years that Liverpool have spent ? and Everton have taken four points off them.

?Look at Chelsea and the money they have spent. Look at the game against Manchester United at Goodison and look at what Everton have spent.

?If you said to me we were getting thrashed and we were way out of our depth you could talk about decline, lack of progression.

?You can?t do that. You can only really say Everton aren?t doing as well as we thought, but they are as good as most of the teams.?

Hmmm.... aren't doing as well as we thought, not in decline... where are we in the table, eh, Davey? Had a look lately have you??? Compare that with where we used to be. That's not decline? Look at your squad! That's not lack of progression?

The bloke is seriously delusional.

Brian Lawlor
30   Posted 11/02/2011 at 16:57:13

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Moyes was forced to get Yak off the wage bill. At £65k per week he was the second highest earner.
Tony McNulty
31   Posted 11/02/2011 at 17:10:08

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Does Johnny Morrissey join in for the training games?
Jimmy Ho
32   Posted 11/02/2011 at 17:31:45

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Light at the end of the tunnel.... On-coming train!
Kevin Clarke
33   Posted 11/02/2011 at 17:26:42

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Any team that starts a game with Anichebe will effectively be playing with 10 men. He is, by some distance, one of the most immobile, clueless players I've ever seen. Moyes gives this lump an extended contract as he thinks he'll develop. Into what?? An older ineffective, slow waste of space. Sorry if this is a bit harsh on a young lad but let's get this straight: Everton are the ONLY club in the Premier League who'd persist with this type of player. The mind fuckin' boggles.
Gavin Ramejkis
34   Posted 11/02/2011 at 17:32:36

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Where is the surprise to the news Saha is injured, he's always bleeding injured, does anyone have the stats on the most consecutive matches he has played for us and the blatantly obvious Beckford isn't a lone striker, Anichebe isn't a striker and neither is Cahill, at this rate we might even get to see Stav playing a game, club is ran like a fucking shambles.
Bren Connor
35   Posted 11/02/2011 at 18:12:27

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What I want to know is who will step in for Beckford and Anichebe when they get injured?
Gavin Ramejkis
36   Posted 11/02/2011 at 18:21:03

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Bren or Baines or Coleman or after we are forced to sell Fellaini.
Kunal Desai
37   Posted 11/02/2011 at 18:37:01

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Gavin ? It's just laughable how this club is run like a joke shop. They call themselves Board of Directors and Chairman... my arse. They haven't got any business acumen whatsoever. That 'yes man' Elstone, well what sort of spin was he trying to give after the accounts were released?! In any other industry, these buffoons would have been kicked out long ago.
Andrew Lawrenson
38   Posted 11/02/2011 at 19:45:11

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Anichebe makes the Yak look like Usain Bolt.
James Stewart
39   Posted 11/02/2011 at 20:12:56

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Thats Cahill back in the side then and back to the line-up that played so badly up til Christmas.
Christine Foster
40   Posted 11/02/2011 at 20:36:44

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The joke shop, wasn't that in Castle Street? Next to an electronics shop? Or that may have been in Whitechapel... by the tunnel...
Sorry for the diversion... must be nostalgia week...
Mark Stone
41   Posted 11/02/2011 at 21:54:58

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Hi, Anthony (#15 and 23) ? where did you read / hear that, mate? That Kenwright said Moyes could spend the £3m from Pienaar? Do you have a link at all?
Jamie Crowley
42   Posted 11/02/2011 at 22:55:40

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Michael @28-

Moyes is not delusional. He's just "tactically challenged".

We have done quite well against the bigger clubs. It's against the Blackburns and Boltons of the world where we have faltered this season. Moyes raises a very valid point ? we aren't that far off and when HE plays men in proper positions we're damn good at times.

There's nothing he can do currently. Our financial landscape is simply horrible. We had to cash in for Peanuts (pun intended) and had to loan players out to stop a financial downward spiral that would ruin the club.

He's a good manager, and he's officially handcuffed with resources. He's going to have to sell major assets in the Summer. And unfortunately because of some really poor handling on the business side, that is a good thing long term.

I just wish, as I'm sure you do, Moyes would attack lesser teams, and play men in proper positions.

But his quote is a standard, "the world isn't as bleak as you make it" from a company guy who's been clearly given marching orders to put as positive a spin on things as he can in dark times.

Don't get me wrong, Moyes pisses me off to no end at times. But I'm not so sure his quote you cite is a poor one, or makes him delusional. He's making a valid point when placed in perspective, and he's toeing the company line.

There IS an arguement that he's possibly drank too much of the corporate Kool-Aid.... but that quote - he's just doing his job that he gets paid very handsomely for.

He's playing the big-business game.... Call him a clever ass-kisser instead.
Gerry Quinn
43   Posted 11/02/2011 at 23:29:10

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Interesting, with regards to Saha. I'm not saying it is a broken hip, but maybe another underlying cause... get to the X-ray dept Louis... ?
Seattle Sounders star Freddie Ljungberg has been playing with a broken hip for TWO YEARS!

The injury-hit Swede joined Major League new-boys Seattle Sounders after tearing up a four-year contract at Upton Park last August.

And it was only after Ljungberg, 32, arrived in the US that specialists pinpointed a dodgy hip as the root of his problems.

The midfielder said: ?The doctors found out the hip was the reason I had so many hamstring injuries.

?I had an operation and was told it would take up to five months to recover. But I only missed the first three games. I feel very good at the moment.?
Anthony Lamb
44   Posted 11/02/2011 at 23:47:09

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Well what a surprise ? the greatest malingerer in the history of the game is "injured" again. Three games in a week? Anybody with any sense would have been expecting this news. He has done his stuff ? six (?) goals in three games after a barren spell that defied description and then what? The customary rest period.

The galling thing is that this is a very talented footballer but who is beyond the pail as regards his so-called "proness to injury" It is a pity that they do not do scans regarding character, commitment, engagement and responsibility ? we would then have a clearer picture as regards the true worth of Louis Saha ? a talented footballer but a complete waste of time as regards dependability.

What a superb position he finds himself in ? able to "cry off" at the least opportunity ? and because of the dire situation at the club ? continue to have people fawning over him both within the management and on the terraces. The tragedy is that Everton's situation at present means he is able to get away with it...

King Louis? He is a knave!

John Shaw
45   Posted 12/02/2011 at 00:32:03

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Michael - sorry but what do you suggest Moyes does? Are you really suggesting that he comes out and says something along the lines of:

'Yes, as you have no doubt noticed, there has been virtually no investment in the squad for quite some time now, meaning that this is probably the smallest squad I've had in my time here and there's no real chance of that changing anytime soon, as a result our league position is suffering and it's probably only going to get worse. If I was a top player here I'd probably look to move on to a club which is run by a Board which has ambition'.

Queue the mass exodus and ridiculously low bids by the likes of that gobshite Redknapp for our star players, leaving us in an even worse situation.

Love him or loathe him, and I've been a big critic this season, Moyes has got to try and get the best out of his players, he has got to keep them going, he has got to keep things as positive as possible, it's what managers do in every walk of life, they stay as positive as possible in a crisis to try and ensure the staff do the same, stay positive. Once fear and negativity set in, it's a very slippery slope I'm afraid.
Derek Thomas
46   Posted 12/02/2011 at 01:26:39

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Kevin Jones (#19) ? I knew he was injury prone, but didn't know he had cronic hamstring problems (Anthony Lamb, #42, this makes me think you are a bit harsh ).

A few weeks ago I was livid at his lack of mobility, what a waste of space, if he's a striker then I'm a fuckin' astronaut etc etc, the ball was 5 yards away, he just looked at it, he must have been favouring the leg. Yet against Blackpool I saw him scream off after a loose ball a few times, the upshot was he got 4 goals.

His praisers have always said the key words... 'a FULLY fit' Saha is a world beater. Shame it's only 1 game in 5, if that. Team requirements mean that Moyes has to play him even at 75% fitness.

So we are back to square one no money = small squad.

The super optimist in me thinks that the 10-14 days is the truth and that Moyes is making a virtue out of a neccesity, knowing full well that Bolton's plan A will be along the lines of... Owen Colye: "Oi you, big fella!" BF: "Yes Boss?" OC: "That Saha scored FOUR last week, right from the off, kick the livin' shit outta him... let's see how many he scores with no legs.
John Hall
47   Posted 12/02/2011 at 06:42:21

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Ossie and Hibbo will come back and save the day!!
John Audsley
48   Posted 12/02/2011 at 09:49:08

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Only just read this now as I ain't been on TW for a day or two...

I guess we all thought this WOULD happen at some point

It's a fookin' joke that we have no cover and Becks or Vic are not lone strikers

What a mess we are in.
Craig Bellew
49   Posted 12/02/2011 at 11:05:14

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All very predictable really, Saha can't go any longer then a few weeks without breaking down, so not really a surprising "Breaking News" story.

I'm more worried about where go from here, and considering the form Saha was in only a few weeks back when he was doing his best impression of Stuart Barlow, it proves how reliant we have become on ONE man to get us out of the shit we find ourselves in.

Kevin (#32) hit the nail on the head re Victor and I only hope Beckford can step up!

It's already been said but I can see a front pairing of Fellaini and Cahill as Moyes will revert back to his tried but not so trusted ways. Where we end up is anyone's guess.

I'm dreading the trip to Stamford Bridge, I'm going to the game too, so come Saturday teatime, I will probably be drowning my sorrows with £5+ pints somewhere in London... Can't wait!!

Martin Mason
50   Posted 12/02/2011 at 11:41:33

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Surely nobody can read those accountss and the two very good summaries that have been posted and still pour bile on the people who run the club. Yes, Moyes does some things which strike us as bizzare but he's obviously doing something right to have such a good side at times with very few resources at his hands.
Ray Said
51   Posted 12/02/2011 at 11:56:45

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Christine (#39) ? The joke shop was the Wizard's Den. Rumour is that BK bought a magic kit in from there... 'Watch how I make all your hopes and dreams disappear in a puff of smoke.'
John Crook
52   Posted 12/02/2011 at 13:16:14

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Guess Louis's Grandmother's leeches in France never did the trick then? Just when I thought we were in for a medical miracle...
Jason Heng
53   Posted 12/02/2011 at 14:40:09

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Didn't we just buy a Greek striker?
Brian Denton
54   Posted 12/02/2011 at 14:38:45

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Christine, I thought the Wizard's Den was in Moorfields, all changed now of course. I remember all my mates laughing at me when I first visited it because I tried to pick up the threepenny bit which was glued to the counter. And that itching powder would never get past 'Elf and Safety nowadays!
Colin Potter
55   Posted 12/02/2011 at 15:32:11

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Your'e right Brian, the Wizards Den was in Moorfields.
They now reside at Goodison Rd!!
Jimmy Hacking
56   Posted 12/02/2011 at 15:41:53

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I said this at the time he signed his contract a year ago and I'll say it again: Why the FOOOK did we not give the lad a pay-as-you-play contract instead of a flat £55k a week?

If he'd have turned up his nose and buggered off to Turkey, good riddance. Even when he IS fit, he never seems fully fit to me.
Colin Potter
57   Posted 12/02/2011 at 16:08:25

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Good thinking, Jason Heng! But would Moyes have the nerve to give him a go? He could be a vast improvement on Anichebe! But then again, so could I... and I'm 72.
Brian Waring
58   Posted 12/02/2011 at 17:14:57

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Jimmy, I may be wrong, but wasn't he already on a pay-as-you-play contract when he joined us?
Matthew Salem
59   Posted 12/02/2011 at 17:56:10

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Fuck,

You wake up to find that a wn at Bolton will propel the Blues to 8th... only to find out that Saha is once again injured. How shall we win at Chelsea without Saha? Fuck.
Mark Scarratt
60   Posted 13/02/2011 at 10:52:58

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If he is so injury prone, why make him train at all??? Just let him rest and play games. Loads of other player used to do it. I remember being at Bellefield to watch training and Peter Reid just went and had a bath.

It is February. Why are we half flogging our players to death in training at this stage of the season? Just rest them.

Oh and Moyes: You don't do us any credit by moaning about Rodwell's injury. At least he got injured in a game, playing for his country. We should be proud that he represented England. You are starting to sound like Wenger. Injured in a game is one thing, but having your already injury prone in-form on-fire striker injured in training is madness

Who is in charge here???
John Brennan
61   Posted 13/02/2011 at 12:07:24

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Brian,
I believe Saha offered the club that option, but they declined it.

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