I think its time the FA tightened up the rules loaning out players. Loaning players to other Premier League sides should be stopped IMO.
Chelsea spent a huge amount of money in the transfer window and then loaned out a top quality striker, Daniel Sturridge, to another Premier League side. The advantage of having Sturridge to Bolton has been obvious, in yesterday's game against Everton, he made all the difference to Bolton between victory and defeat. Even though Everton didn't play that well, they probably wouldn't have lost if Bolton didn't have Sturridge.
The current rules allow cash rich clubs to give an unfair advantage to another club in the Premier League, of their choice, making things more difficult for their immediate challengers. By making Bolton more difficult to beat, it means other clubs will find it harder to pick up the easier points, giving a distinct advantage back to Chelsea.
Chelsea have been quite selective in who Sturridge went to, as they have already played Bolton twice, so they don't need any "gentleman's agreement" with Bolton not to play Sturridge. Very cunning!
It would be interesting to see what other people think.
Brian Baker, Posted 14/02/2011 at 14:56:38
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1 Posted 14/02/2011 at 15:02:39
I think it is another sad fact of the game too that greedy players would rather join a team where they won't get a game only to sit on bench or go on loan to a lesser team with their team paying their huge wages.
2 Posted 14/02/2011 at 15:11:06
3 Posted 14/02/2011 at 15:22:50
4 Posted 14/02/2011 at 15:37:02
5 Posted 14/02/2011 at 15:45:48
It is great fun when your club nicks a player on loan who does wonders (like Donovan, and, erm, no-one else for us really) but it is very very very obviously ludicrously unfair to be allowed to loan players to other clubs from the same country/division.
This whole area must be a also moral quagmire when it comes to back-scratching, back-handers and dodgy favours.
I'm sure clubs in England couldn't do it, either, up until the mid-90s, or am I wrong? I'm largely basing this on early versions of Championship Manager (!)
6 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:07:52
7 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:06:09
If I recall correctly, Everton was one of the clubs that spearheaded the fight to lift the ban because the smaller clubs could not afford to buy enough players for a decent bench. We were one of the first beneficiaries, getting Francis Jeffers from Arsenal.
Now that Everton cannot afford to loan any player, it is right time for the ban to be re-imposed. Great thinking!
8 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:14:10
9 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:11:46
10 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:35:33
11 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:44:10
12 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:45:07
We could have got Sturridge if we had had the cash for his wages. IMO I reckon he would have joined us before Bolton, and at the end of the day, we are no threat to Chelsea, if anything, Bolton are more of a threat to Chelsea than us.
13 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:53:44
14 Posted 14/02/2011 at 16:59:13
15 Posted 14/02/2011 at 17:29:57
Spot on, why we couldnt scrape the money together for him having got rid of the best part of £100k / week off the wage bill i dont know.
Mind you would he have come to sit on the bench whilst watching Saha partnered by Cahill each week. I accept he would have played this week but had Saha not got injured does anyone think Moyes would have played 2 up front leaving out his beloved Tim ?
Another point relating to the article - Sturridge was hardly the difference between victory and defeat for Bolton. Bolton's first goal had no input from Sturridge and he certainly had bo part to play in our inept play that un-suprisingly led to another blank in front of goal. If Sturridge hadnt played we still would have lost yesterday, we were shit end of.
16 Posted 14/02/2011 at 17:30:24
The incompetence of the board is loudly and clearly signalled again when people have stopped talking about which players they'd love to see at Everton and are more concerned with putting a stop to the perfectly reasonable loans system.
As Bertie #13 says, we'd be doing the conga through the Pier Head if Sturridge had come to us.
17 Posted 14/02/2011 at 17:59:31
All the best players will get bought up by City and Chelsea etc and then loaned out for experience. Is that really the kind of Premiership we want? The top clubs not only dominating the top 4 but also owning the best players from the club's below them? But more than that it's a conflict of interests and shouldn't be allowed.
I couldn't give a fuck if Sturridge had come to us. We could never afford him permanently so what would be the point in grooming him for Chelsea and paying for the privilege.
18 Posted 14/02/2011 at 18:25:13
Loaning players to teams in the same division is open to abuse.
19 Posted 14/02/2011 at 18:33:22
20 Posted 14/02/2011 at 19:41:07
Never used to be the case (I think keepers were the exception) and after the Tim Howard furore there are no gentleman's agreements allowed anymore anyway - under FA rules Sturridge wouldn't be allowed to play against Chelsea no matter who he'd gone to. So there was nothing cunning about selecting Bolton...
...unless they are one of the teams that still has to play Arsenal, City, Chelsea and other potential suitors did not. I haven't checked but that would be the obvious conflict.
21 Posted 14/02/2011 at 19:49:46
All these players are off the wage bill, not counting Gosling and Pienaar... how much has our club saved?? We are losing places in the league which costs us about £4 to 5 million due to non-investment... what a heap of shit our clubs mismanagement is causing.
22 Posted 14/02/2011 at 20:15:51
23 Posted 14/02/2011 at 21:07:35
24 Posted 14/02/2011 at 21:20:42
25 Posted 14/02/2011 at 21:39:16
26 Posted 14/02/2011 at 21:54:34
Also,to guarantee freedom of movement for workers, which players technically are you must have the same rules in a member state as you do cross border. EU residence rules also cover players who have been resident in any EU country after a period of time. I think it is 5 years.
Hope this helps Ray.
27 Posted 14/02/2011 at 22:29:56
28 Posted 14/02/2011 at 22:45:50
29 Posted 15/02/2011 at 04:08:00
....course back then we were trying to save pennies by not buying players...now we can't even afford to loan them FFS
30 Posted 15/02/2011 at 05:59:35
31 Posted 15/02/2011 at 07:13:48
Why whoever agreed to that at Everton wasn't brought to task was mystifying.
32 Posted 15/02/2011 at 09:11:52
Mind you, I wasn't that comfortable with the terms of the Rooney transfer either. Us playing against them knowing that we stood to gain financially if Utd won!
33 Posted 15/02/2011 at 13:47:30
What a waste... they will have Pienaar and Krancjar sat on the bench soon and they actually tried to bring in Charley Adam and Phill Neville who no doubt would have sat on the bench too or got sent out on loan, its ridiculous.
34 Posted 15/02/2011 at 14:30:21
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