Our worst season in the Premier League era was 97-98 when we survived by the skin of our teeth on goal difference only. Bolton had the same number of points as us - 40 - but went down. It still wakes me up in a cold sweat.
At the same point that season ? i.e. 26 games, we are currently 2 points better off now than we were that season.
That was 13 years ago and after 26 games:
97-98: W7 D7
10-11: W6 D12
In 97-98, we won 2 and drew 6 in the run-in.
I know I need a new anorak for doing the maths on this tonight but those statistics scare the shit out of me.
I'd love to win the FA Cup but survival is what matters. I'm as unhappy as anyone else here with the way things are going on and off the field but screw the fans' protests for now. Leave that until the summer or 45 points ? whichever comes first. We need to survive in the Prem and upheaval right now won't be good.
Mike Hughes, Posted 16/02/2011 at 22:57:38
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1 Posted 17/02/2011 at 00:04:25
I agree that any protest now would be counter productive. I hope we survive by goal difference like the season you refer to so that Moyes will have to go and maybe BK might be forced to pull his chubby little finger out.
2 Posted 17/02/2011 at 01:36:44
Of course, that is still conditional on finding money to pay better players but if we have no place in Europe we will have to pay even more in wages to attract players to come to us. Would West Ham have kept Scott Parker without a large salary or have signed Wayne Bridge? This from a club who are meant to have financial problems and have an manager who has looked haunted all season.
3 Posted 17/02/2011 at 03:16:55
Was a horrible, horrible day in any event. Took a Geordie friend to the game. Wasn't a celebration after, more like relief.
4 Posted 17/02/2011 at 03:22:56
09-10: 30 pts
08-09: 34 pts
07-08: 36 pts
06-07: 38 pts
05-06: 34 pts
Also, we're shit, but there's plenty worse.
5 Posted 17/02/2011 at 09:17:06
Personally I'd rather win the Cup and get relegated, than win FUCK ALL AGAIN. We all know though at we'll get done on Saturday though by them twats....
I do agree with one of the lads above in that there are worse teams than us in the Premier League ? luckily there are 3 or 4 of them this year. I fear however, it'll be different next year.
We need someone with very deep pockets to buy the club ? personally, I couldn't give a flyin' fuck where he is from or what his motives are, as long as he gives the Manager £200M to spend....!!!!!!
Anyway, it's nearly the weekend ? long gone are the days that Everton FC ruins my day / night / weekend / week.... After all, our opinions and / or thoughts don't matter one jot to those that run / play for the club.
6 Posted 17/02/2011 at 09:25:34
Of course, the wheels could always fall off completely but, even on current form, I think we're pretty much a dead cert to finish somewhere fairly solidly mid-table ? which is still disappointing given where we could have been if everything had clicked from the start.
7 Posted 17/02/2011 at 09:42:50
There's at least 6000 Evertoninas who are prepared to give the lads a chance on Saturday, Andy lad.
8 Posted 17/02/2011 at 09:51:22
Moyes needs to approach every game boldly ? but I am not keeping my fingers crossed for that!
9 Posted 17/02/2011 at 10:35:16
10 Posted 17/02/2011 at 12:28:36
Ajay, we are in the middle of a shitty season, not run, so why would Chelsea, the current double champions, who are about 10 places above us now, suddenly be there for the taking? If things are to be banned then that quote should be banned along with the word fickle... it really should.
11 Posted 17/02/2011 at 12:36:10
Fans have come on here and said that to get a result at Stamford bridge, Moyes will have to change his usual safety first tactics; it would not surprise me if Saha played Saturday? I know no more than any other fan, but stranger things have happened, and to really have a chance, then he has to play.
The performance at Bolton will I am sure be addressed hopefully, and the players will perform with pride in the shirt, and give the 6,000 fans, something really shout about. COYB
12 Posted 17/02/2011 at 13:08:54
13 Posted 17/02/2011 at 13:50:09
If you want to talk about bad decisions then talk about all of them. Not just the ones that suit you!! We have some good luck and bad luck with officials. Just like everyone else!
14 Posted 17/02/2011 at 13:56:11
It's going to be a backs against the wall fight and made more difficult by the bungling in the transfer window which has left us short on strike power. Wins by 1-0 will be the order of the day in the short term which will suffice but will not be easy to watch but who cares as long as we reach safety.
15 Posted 17/02/2011 at 14:12:51
However, I don't think it will come to that. I suspect we will probably finish in the top half. Having run the BBC website predictor I think we'll need about 37 points to be safe. If it came to that, it would be tight though because I believe that the bottom 3 teams will all finish around the 36 point mark.
16 Posted 17/02/2011 at 14:20:13
I take your point that our form isn't great, but it's not as bad as all that. Yes, we were dire against Bolton, but since Dec we've also beaten City, Tottenham and Blackpool and drawn with Chelsea (twice) and Liverpool, only losing difficult away games to Stoke, Arsenal and Bolton.
We'll be fine, in my opinion, though the striker situation remains a concern.
17 Posted 17/02/2011 at 15:27:03
Given our inconsistency and poor form / lack of firepower / leaky defence, I have to say I'm worried.
I think we'll need more than 40 points to be safe.
18 Posted 17/02/2011 at 16:18:06
Just like those 'Easy' games at home, Matthew: West Ham, Wigan, West Brom, Wolves and that 'Poor' Newcastle side you talk off who beat us. 3pts from a possible 15 from those games at home, says to me there is no easy run in.
19 Posted 17/02/2011 at 16:37:02
20 Posted 17/02/2011 at 20:40:22
This season has been dismal but I still think we'll comfortably exceed 40 points.
I think we'll know a lot more in 4 games time!!
I hope I won't be eating my words.
21 Posted 17/02/2011 at 21:46:30
22 Posted 17/02/2011 at 22:35:24
23 Posted 17/02/2011 at 22:54:20
24 Posted 18/02/2011 at 08:16:22
Wins by 1-0 will be the order of the day
We cannot keep clean sheets, thats been as much a problem as our inability to take our chances and score. The defence has been very poor at least from the last game, it seems Howard is prepared to come off his line.
I really fear this season is going to see our worst nightmare come true. But hey, BK will have the £35m parachute payment to pay off his cronies, oh and plus the money in from the sale of Fellaini, Jags, Arteta, Yak, and Baines. The next 4 weeks are going to be eventful.
25 Posted 18/02/2011 at 09:15:16
As I said, our form isn't great, but it's better than at the start of the season when yes we were very poor against very bad sides. We've improved since then, even if we're still grinding for results. You might be right: there are no 'easy games in this division, but some are certainly easier than others, and there are many worse teams in this league than us.
Our shocking performance at Bolton is colouring people's opinion at the moment, I think. It's only one game ? I think we'll show we're better than that over the rest of the season, enough to stay up reasonably comfortably anyway.
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