Anyone surprised we didn?t get the 3 points? No!!! You knew exactly how Brum were going to play against us, losing Arteta so early didn?t help (Knowing our luck his seasons over) but even without him we should be beating these teams comfortably.
I thought Heitinga played a lot better than he did against Newcastle and what a sweet strike for the goal, but it is worrying to think we simply can?t break teams down that come to defend. It has got to be a coaching/tactical issue; but what?s worse is we seemed to be happy with a point which really takes the piss.
That takes it to 13 draws this season, total disgrace when you know that well over half should have been wins. On top of that, we?ve now got a midfield full of defenders with only Osman a true ball playing midfielder & if he gets injured god help us.
Season ticket price freeze... Season ticket exodus more like!
Alex Buckley, Posted 09/03/2011 at 22:53:44
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1 Posted 09/03/2011 at 23:53:33
Coffee... keyboard!!! ARRRGGGGH!
2 Posted 10/03/2011 at 00:09:51
Cos I'm feeling a bit like the latter and starting to realise that, at 40 years old, and an Evertonian my whole life, this is about my lot, and I will never ever again enjoy a successful team when we are the biggest and the best.
I suppose sholud be grateful that at least I had that feeling for while in the 80s...
3 Posted 10/03/2011 at 00:55:39
Again, it's Moyes and his failure to change the tactics. Bringing on Vic for becks and keeping it the same really isn't doing anything. Heitinga should've gone off after 60 mins for Baxter, and Vic on then for Beckford. Crap.
4 Posted 10/03/2011 at 00:57:31
If a person from Clitheroe is a Clit Hero and an anogram of David Ginola is Vagina Dildo then anything is possible? Think outside the box (and shoot occasionally to while your at it).
The future of Everton is so bright ? how about we all attend Everton's next game wearing shades?
5 Posted 10/03/2011 at 01:35:54
6 Posted 10/03/2011 at 02:34:01
7 Posted 10/03/2011 at 07:48:45
Arteta injury drove home how small the squad really is, its not a case of what if x gets injured now more like who the hell do we have when x gets injured
Hibbert made some great tackles but he and Coleman confused each other going forward, Baines and Osman partnership actually looked decent, did someone tell Rodwell he was a crab last night as all he seemed to do was go bleeding sideways, Beckford and Saha way too far from each other for the long balls hoofed to them over and over again to be of any use. Just wished I would have put money on the draw at 3/1 was a dead cert at least I could have come away with bigger pockets as a consolation.
8 Posted 10/03/2011 at 08:42:03
9 Posted 10/03/2011 at 09:14:54
It's games like this, if we keep it up, that's going to condemn us to go down, if it isn't fixed.
Some reckon 42 points will be enough, the problem is, 8 points seems like another season away, when we produce fair like last night. I mean we could have stayed on that pitch and played for 24 hours and still not scored again.
Nice goal by Johnny though, superbly taken.
10 Posted 10/03/2011 at 09:17:26
The bottom of the table is just too hard to call, and I cannot believe with just 10 games to go we are down there with an embarrassing 36 points!
11 Posted 10/03/2011 at 09:14:46
There is at least 12 shite and average teams in the Premier League with us being amongst them. The real insult is that money that should have been given to Pienaar was used to give a nice contract to Anichebe ? what does it say about his management skills when one of your two creative players are let go without any replacement?
The RS game apart, and first half against Man Utd, that last night was the usual stodgy performance lacking in craft, guile and quality that we have produced all season, that tells me (but obviously not Moyes) that we are a very average side in need of 4 or 5 first team players at least.
For the "we have no money" brigade, Reading had not 1 but 2 strikers both better than Anichebe, who Moyes sees as our future... so it shouldn't be that hard to find players with basic footballing skills that lots of are players lack.
12 Posted 10/03/2011 at 09:40:49
13 Posted 10/03/2011 at 09:56:48
Yet on the other hand we have to carve out goals either with Baines's precise executions of free-kicks, or through Coleman's run or decent deliveries into the box for Cahill to head in. Why can't teams give us cheap goals to score? As soon as Birmingham went one-nil up, I knew we wouldn't win.
14 Posted 10/03/2011 at 09:39:58
That?s 3 centre half's on the pitch & 2 on the bench, surely we need all the attacking options we get on the bench? Teased with the Secret Weapon tag, sounds like either something?s happened behind the scenes, he?s injured, or they?ve loaned him out without even bothering to tell us.
15 Posted 10/03/2011 at 10:31:49
If you count Hibbert as a makeshift CB and Rodwell who we are told will become one in the future and Heitinga (surely one of these 3 would be put in there if Jags or Distin were injured before any of the young lads) that's 5 potential CBs on the pitch, which makes you wonder even more why there were another 2 on the bench.
And we wonder why we can't score goals... we should at least be keeping them out, FFS!
16 Posted 10/03/2011 at 09:56:30
We have 27 points still to play for, we have to try to get them all; we won't of course, but we'll get a sight more than some are saying.
Moyes is often accused of being ultra negative, he`s not even in the same post code as some of his accusers.
17 Posted 10/03/2011 at 10:45:22
Last night Leon put in a shift and a half, just as he did on Saturday. Please don`t dismiss the lad as a no-mark!
18 Posted 10/03/2011 at 10:54:13
Rodwell seems to be playing very much within himself, through confidence or tactics it?s debatable; however he is still a young player making his way in the game and will have ups and downs, make mistakes and form will fluctuate. But he has way more than he?s showing, he?s got talent to burn and when he eventually leave s(apologies but he will in the next 2 years max), he will show it.
Saha seems to be dropping deeper and sometimes wider, searching for possession; in my opinion, the age and injuries have stacked up and he?s lost the ability to turn defenders so can?t get in behind anymore really. When he plays as the lead striker with Cahill off him, we just don?t trouble teams, at all. When Beckford plays, he plays on the shoulder of defenders, Saha therefore drops off. Let?s be honest, Saha is on the finish; we may get another useful season as a squad player, but he is essentially living off reputation.
The squad is completely unbalanced and we need a big rethink on the balance of the midfield and the strikers at the club. If we even want to think about consistent European qualification, starting with the finishing 5th/6th and building it up, playing twice a week, Ossie is a genuine, honest squad player. That?s where we were progressing to 18 months ago, however through a combination of lack of dollar and Moyes having possibly his worst spell in charge for about 6 years (he?s got little right for months), we've blown it and we are where we are, midtable.
Ossie is the creative hub till season end!!! All keyed up?! Let?s just get this season done and get as many points as we can, it?s all about next season already.
19 Posted 10/03/2011 at 11:17:48
Hear, hear ? I feel I may be in the minority here but I agree! I've been an Evertonian for 40 years and I've seen some scapegoats both fairly and unfairly targetted by our fans but I've never understood this irrational dislike, almost hatred, for Ossie. He gives much more than most of our fans realise!
We got a poor result last night, pretty understandable given Arteta's injury and the loss of Fellaini and Pienaar, and Bily's strange attitude when given a chance but Osman put in more than a shift and we WOULD miss him if he gets injured.
And what's more, whenever I am at the match, I hear nothing but positive comments about Ossie from those around me.
I dont agree with some of your blind faith and rosy optimism for the future and well being of our club (but I will never knock you for it!) but in this instance I'm with you!
20 Posted 10/03/2011 at 11:29:34
21 Posted 10/03/2011 at 10:59:33
22 Posted 10/03/2011 at 11:46:42
23 Posted 10/03/2011 at 11:44:26
I agree with the virtues you and Doddy have listed and would have him as a squad player pushing for Europe all day. However, I think he is symptomatic of our limitations as a team and a club, which means a very similar but more talented and equally hard working player who jumped ship was playing Champions League against AC Milan last night. And that's the frustration which Ossie, wrongly, bears the brunt of.
24 Posted 10/03/2011 at 11:48:04
Maybe we can start creating medals and trophies if we reach 50 points, or win 3 games on the trot or finish in the top 10. We could then clear out all those League titles, FA Cup wins etc in the trophy cabinet.
25 Posted 10/03/2011 at 10:43:04
Apparently we can't replace Arteta's creativity, well that's probably cause we've nothing else creative in the squad now Pienaar has gone (how we didn't force Nico into the deal was typically pathetic).
Our squad has six recognised midfielders and two academy lads (one out on loan & one with a broken leg) & then we?ve got nine strikers on the books, you wouldn?t know it being one of the main areas we need investment (& the fact four of them are out on loan).
The whole balance of the squad is so bad, it's embarrassing.
26 Posted 10/03/2011 at 12:01:05
27 Posted 10/03/2011 at 12:31:36
I think we have quite a good record actually, but not looked into it.
28 Posted 10/03/2011 at 12:29:11
Our squad is the most threadbare of every team in the Premier League apart from maybe Blackpool. We are playing utility systems where its make do and mend. Players doing jobs out of position and a bench which is really weak. I still reckon we are not out of the woods and 42 points are needed for comparative safety.
Felli out for season, Arteta maybe the same, Cahill out until the end of this month at least... these are facts not pessimism.
29 Posted 10/03/2011 at 12:46:50
As for the game, best forgotten like many this season.
30 Posted 10/03/2011 at 12:50:24
31 Posted 10/03/2011 at 13:14:08
Stephen Leary@ 3: Do you think fans of say, Chelsea think they should be beating "shite teams" like Everton at home? Get a grip. Just because we support Everton does not mean we have a divine right to beat so-called lesser clubs. If it worked that way, we'd all make millions off the bookies predicting results each Saturday.
32 Posted 10/03/2011 at 13:00:46
Being positive will not win any team football matches: quality players with a little guile, craft and vision may get the job done but, given these are words Moyes has little understanding of, it's unlikely we will ever see these qualities from a Everton team managed by Moyes.
For me, it's quite simple: if we do not keep clean sheets (which we rarely do), we will not win many games, this is how it's always been under Moyes and it's how it will stay, imo.
33 Posted 10/03/2011 at 13:27:40
Did you expect us to beat Birmingham at Goodison? We don't have a divine right to beat anybody but it should take more than the very basic tactic of getting men behind the ball for teams like Birmingham, Wolves, Wigan, West Brom, West Ham, Bolton and Newcastle to get a result at Goodison.
Moyes talks of Europe and the top 6 which is insulting, he is obviously blinded by shite and deluded which is a big worry. His comments regarding Osman, who is a fine footballer but lacks the strength and pace to ever be top top quality, and Hibbert, who gives his all but is a Championship player, should concern anybody and everybody who wants to see the club challenging for honours and Champions League places. Think mid-table then don't ever expect to go beyond it.
34 Posted 10/03/2011 at 14:03:31
Someone had mentioned that we simply couldn't breakdown Birmingham's five across the middle. Well DM gets £65k a week and surely he has a TV, he could even watch MotD and see how Brum play and know what he needs to do to play against a team playing 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 or whatever variation of each, this is bread and butter management ? not rocket science, surely?
35 Posted 10/03/2011 at 14:09:44
The joke was to amplify the dire straits we now have in team selection.
But fair go, Osman has been terrific these last few games, no doubt there.
36 Posted 10/03/2011 at 14:32:59
37 Posted 10/03/2011 at 14:55:49
"Do you think fans of say, Chelsea think they should be beating "shite teams" like Everton at home?"
Yes, they do! I live amongst them and to a man they swear we are the luckiest team they play against as they always batter us but the ref protects us! Honest!
I've never seen Drogba play in goal for Chelsea or Tim Howard up front for us. I see your point but its weakened by using those extremes! Heitinga should be able to play back 4 or midfield. Bily should be able to play wide or centre BUT much beyond that is unreasonable. I'd have said Beckford can't play centre mid or Jags can't play wide and the point would probably be made clearer.
All said though ? IF Arteta had stayed on then YES, I would expect us to beat "the likes of Birmingham" ie ? a bottom three side! Once Arteta went off then I don't even blame Moyes for not having the tactical genius to break them down. A bad result but not a disaster.
38 Posted 10/03/2011 at 15:02:17
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of Anichebe who seems content to come on, contribute less than zero, pick up his pay and pretend he's a professional footballer in the most competitive league on the planet. If anyone offers to take him off our hands, we should bite off their arm at the elbow.
39 Posted 10/03/2011 at 15:22:57
40 Posted 10/03/2011 at 15:40:24
41 Posted 10/03/2011 at 16:21:31
42 Posted 10/03/2011 at 17:41:17
43 Posted 10/03/2011 at 19:36:22
44 Posted 10/03/2011 at 20:06:47
45 Posted 11/03/2011 at 01:00:16
Whilst you're there, tell them history starts before 1990. Chelsea were more famous for having a greyhound track around the pitch than playing football until recently.
46 Posted 11/03/2011 at 02:37:00
The annoying thing is ? if you go all out for victory ? you only have to turn 5 of those 13 draws into victories, and lose the rest to be better off points-wise. Considering the shite teams we've drawn against, I'm pretty sure we could have achieved this by being more adventurous.
If Moyes was the manager of Blackpool, they would probably have about 9 points (all draws) and scored less than 20 goals.
47 Posted 11/03/2011 at 01:40:04
This injury situation... could it be we play Bily and Osman in the middle and watch them perform admirably ? in their proper positions??!!
Guarantee Bily, if played in the middle behind the striker(s) will get plaudits post-game.
48 Posted 11/03/2011 at 08:54:00
49 Posted 11/03/2011 at 12:59:59
Yes we have. Blackpool led 3-2. We beat them 5-3.
50 Posted 11/03/2011 at 13:38:55
So we would be rock bottom with 24 points.
51 Posted 11/03/2011 at 16:30:08
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