Is it me or do Everton seem to get a lot of injuries, particularly hamstring pulls, in the first 10 mins of a half?
I think last year it was regular, which may be why Rathbone was moved on, but it seems the same again now.
Do the players warm up and stretch properly before the game?
Also, why don't you see other sports eg Rugby have similar problems ? you hardly ever see a back in rugby union pull up when sprinting?
Alan Peters, Posted 10/03/2011 at 20:50:51
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1 Posted 11/03/2011 at 03:02:51
Here in Australia you see hamstring tears in all football codes. Also worth noting that a midfielders like Arteta or Felli do considerably more running than a rugby back.
2 Posted 11/03/2011 at 05:32:03
Agree with Russell. I am also in Australia and you see hamstring injuries every week in the NRL. I am sure they warm up properly and when you see them at training they go through a large amount of physical stress as well which is why it is common place for players to get injured at training.
3 Posted 11/03/2011 at 08:03:49
4 Posted 11/03/2011 at 08:33:22
5 Posted 11/03/2011 at 08:47:28
Overrated this super fitness thing.
6 Posted 11/03/2011 at 09:01:02
7 Posted 11/03/2011 at 09:05:54
8 Posted 11/03/2011 at 09:05:19
9 Posted 11/03/2011 at 09:05:05
Look at Arsenal, the Shite, Man U and Chelsea, they've all had serious injury problems this season, it's just more apparent here as we are more in tune with our own football club.
10 Posted 11/03/2011 at 09:08:16
11 Posted 11/03/2011 at 09:13:45
No, we are just having a shit season and when your feeling down and out at the bottom, the rain is at it's heaviest.
Anyway KPR Williams, I personally blame you!
12 Posted 11/03/2011 at 09:27:57
13 Posted 11/03/2011 at 10:11:44
14 Posted 11/03/2011 at 10:41:55
15 Posted 11/03/2011 at 11:46:27
The tearing of the hamstring is caused by overstreching, which in turn, is caused by trying to get on the end of Hibberts passes. Hibbert being on the pitch is caused by David Moyes, who picks the team. Moyes will protest his hands are tied because he has no money to buy a better right back, which in turn, puts Bill Kenwright under the spotlight. Bill will claim he is searching for investment 24/7, though recent revelations of three supposed bidders withdrawing will 'confirm' what most already believe, that the club actually isn't for sale.
And the reason the club isn't for sale is because physio costs are tax deductable and a nice little earner...
16 Posted 11/03/2011 at 11:51:35
I have copied some net notes on the cause of Hamstring injuries, just so it's clear.
Preventing a Pulled Hamstring:Other factors which increase the likelihood of suffering a hamstring strain include:
One of the most important methods of preventing a pulled hamstring is to warm-up correctly ? this has been scientifically proven to reduce the risk of hamstring strain. This should consist of some light aerobic exercise followed by stretching and sports specific drills with gradually increasing intensity.
Age: The older the individual the greater at risk to a pulled hamstring.Full link to more detail is:
Previous Injury: Prior injuries to the hamstrings or adductor muscles can greatly increase the chance of future injury.
Flexibility: Research suggests that the greater the flexibility of the hamstrings the less prone they are to injury.
Hamstring strength: Similarly studies have shown that lack of hamstring strength is strongly linked to hamstring injury.
Lumbosacral nerve impingement: Nerve impingement in L5-S1 can lead to associated hamstring muscle weakness.
Tiredness and fitness: When a player is fatigued he/she loses coordination between certain muscle groups. The biceps femoris muscle is known to become damaged due its two portions being innervated by two separate nerves. In states of tiredness, lack of synchronization between these two nerves can lead to a mismatch in firing resulting in a pulled hamstring.
In summary, although not stated as such, over-training causes strain if muscles are not built up correctly: warm up and warm down is critical. Looking at Neville, I would say that his was more likely an age related injury and inflexibility due to age whilst Arteta is almost certainly insufficient warm up / stretches.
Emphasis on pre-match stretching and muscle massage is paramount to increasing blood flow, and warming muscle.
17 Posted 11/03/2011 at 12:17:35
18 Posted 11/03/2011 at 13:18:56
1. Because we have an interest in what our players are doing
2. (and this is a bigger one) The squad is so small that all injuries that keep a player off the pitch have an impact, there simply is no depth so we have no replacements.
19 Posted 11/03/2011 at 15:45:04
20 Posted 11/03/2011 at 16:28:45
Couple of beers and a few brandies with the occasional bottle of wine.
Works well for me, I'm now 60 and never had a hamstring problem.
21 Posted 11/03/2011 at 16:30:36
22 Posted 11/03/2011 at 17:45:18
23 Posted 11/03/2011 at 20:55:32
When Arteta was injured, we had Pienaar doing a fine job; now it's down the plug hole. Not too long ago, Osman was being castigated after every game, now he is the only alternative.
We have a team of crocks and ageing players with a smattering of youth... we need players who can play anywhere to paper over the weaknesses. We waste money on long distance pre-season jollies which always seem to have an adverse effect on our starts to each season.
We GIVE away assets for peanuts (pardon the pun) or for free (Gosling). We readily loan assets (6 players) as if we are a pawn shop.
BK is speechless at the moment and DM looks on the verge of a nervous breakdown at the end of most of this seasons matches. I reckon we are as consistent as the England one-day cricket team supposedly trying to win the World Cup... Jekyll and Hyde to a tee.
Every game we play could never be bet on with any certainty because the same team never turns up... we win games when we seem to have no chance and draw/lose games we should win. The one thing we can count on is NOWT!!!
24 Posted 12/03/2011 at 03:41:19
His step up has been noticable in effort in the 1.1 games he played on the left. But has his training / warm-up / warm-down / pre- and post-massage etc been modified to take this into consideration?
Although football is basically a middle-distance event, not all positions require the same type of effort, one-size training / physio regime does not fit all. Every position is different and so is every player.
There must be some sort of questions asked about the physio's one-on-one program.
25 Posted 12/03/2011 at 11:23:27
I doubt we get more hamstring issues, it's just that our squad is tiny, so things like this are magnified beyond belief, and when you don't have a comparable replacement for the ones going out, it's natural to wonder what the heck is going on.
26 Posted 12/03/2011 at 17:16:32
Coat, taxi, retirement home, Liverpool reserves
27 Posted 12/03/2011 at 17:47:13
As we have a small squad, key players are rarely rested and hence prone to injury and or loss of form due to fatigue.
Coleman for example is now running on empty and seriously needs a rest.
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