I stumbled across the libation emblazoned across our shirts in a Tesco in Tottenham of all places. First time I'd seen it so I bought the 4 bottles that were left. I have to say it warmed my cockles to think I was supporting the Thai conglomerate that was supporting Our Boys.
In the interest of furthering scientific research, I also purchased a bottle of Singha (Changs' "Red Shite"!), and, for an independent quality control point of view, Argentina's favourite lager, "Quilme" (I have to say Tesco Tottenham had a wide and interesting stock of ales, and not just yer Cobras and Carlsbergs).
Anyhoo, I remember reading somewhere on this site that Chang was the choice of the great unwashed in Thailand whereas Singha was to be found on the tables of the upwardly mobile. From my limited research (finished last night whilst watching Alan Partridge Mid Morning Matters on Youtube - sponsored by Fosters :o( ) I can say that Chang held it's own against it's Thai opposition. However they both came a poor second to the Argies (not least because Quilme is sold in Litre bottles!)
So, in conclusion, let's give Moyes one more season, and some money in the Summer through selling some, (but not all), of our Crown Jewels. If we continue to tread water then I'm sure both we and he will feel it's time to contact our lawyers. And in the meantime, if you see Chang, buy it, consume it and (as Woody Allen once said) you too can have hot cockles.
Alun Willis, Posted 23/03/2011 at 17:28:56
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1 Posted 24/03/2011 at 01:11:58
After 10 years of drinking Chang I'm trying to wean myself off it in a bid to cut down my alcohol consumption (by % rather than volume) but none of the others taste right in comparison.
2 Posted 24/03/2011 at 02:13:33
I don't know if Singha or Quilme are available, but next time I'm in the bottle shop I'll have a look for them and in the interest of further research will report back.
Anyone able to broaden the research with further suggestions?
3 Posted 24/03/2011 at 04:13:57
4 Posted 24/03/2011 at 05:31:58
One thing I found rather strange is that I never got a hangover, despite researching really hard. Is this because one sweats it all out as you go?
If I had drunk half the amount here, I would need a fortnight to get over it.....strange!!
5 Posted 24/03/2011 at 06:49:58
Singha and Quilme are both available in Brisbane.
But stuff those... Chang is on our jersey and it tastes better.
6 Posted 24/03/2011 at 07:19:50
7 Posted 24/03/2011 at 07:39:43
Although I am very fond of Duvel
XXXX Bitter is my cheap booze of choice, even though I'm a New South Welshman
8 Posted 24/03/2011 at 07:47:07
Before we got 'Blind' we did a blind taste test.
"My round, Raymondo, you get the table and I'll get the beers." Thus duly purchased, I transfered them to glasses.
We both times went for the Singha.
I would really like to find Spieght's on draught in Brisbane, can anybody help?
But short of a tardis the is no way ever to get Draught Bass or Double Diamond.
Back in the day when I was easily lead astray by the aforementioned Raymondo, we used to end up doing Pints of DD with Pernod sinkers. Which then gave us a taste for the Wine Lodge.
9 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:12:15
10 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:24:22
11 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:28:12
Come to think of it, those were the Saturdays when we always seemed to win matches with something to spare; or is that just the ale talking?
12 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:34:40
13 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:37:55
Growing up in the Midlands, my taste was for a pint of Mild & Bitter [or 'mixed', as it was termed locally], but now I reside down on the South Coast sightings of Mild are exceedingly rare & so I have reluctantly become a Bitter Blue!
14 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:02:42
However, I do drink Chang out of "brand loyalty" and never touch Carlsberg. (In Denmark a couple of years ago, I drank wine all night as Tuborg was unavailable as an alternative to Carlsberg.)
My extensive research has consistently concluded these findings and with the sage-like end-of-evening caveats that Phil Neville needs to improve his passing and that, as a team, we need to shoot more often from outside the box instead of trying to pass it in. And Arteta needs to beat the first man from corners and free kicks.
15 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:44:07
Apart from the taste issue, one troubling side effect of the Chang relationship has been the emergence of some poor bloke dressed as an Elephant as team mascot, on equal footing with the venerable Toffee Girl!
Apparently "Chang" is Thai for said animal. But then again, as a thick-skinned, loyal, slow, hard working and respected beast, whose rage is terrible to behold, could this new mascot have been introduced by BK to advertise the virtues we should be admiring in someone else...?
16 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:49:02
Worthington E - first bubbly beer
and my first pint of Double Diamond...2s/6d in the Little House on Smithdown Road
17 Posted 24/03/2011 at 09:50:36
18 Posted 24/03/2011 at 10:09:30
19 Posted 24/03/2011 at 10:32:51
Since the RS adopted Carlsberg, I quite happily continued my preference to Tuborg (although the Tuborg available here in the UK is a piss poor relation to the Dansk stuff) but imagine my horror when I discovered that Tuborg had been bought by Carlsberg anyway!
Tried Chang ? didn't like it ? so my foreign beer of choice is now Paulaner.
20 Posted 24/03/2011 at 10:38:15
I had one of the big blue and white E beer pumps rigged up to my brakes on my old Viva HB so it lit up when I breaked. The coppers didnt like it though and insisted I should have a red bulb in it which defeated the object so after being stopped numerous times it had to go.
21 Posted 24/03/2011 at 10:42:30
I bought 2 bottles, thought it was excellent.
22 Posted 24/03/2011 at 10:40:38
I buy it by the case from my local Bookers cash & carry but never seem to see it anywhere else in the Chelmsford area, either shops or bars ? sadly.
23 Posted 24/03/2011 at 10:52:50
24 Posted 24/03/2011 at 12:16:18
I've got 6 tins of Skol in the shed.
25 Posted 24/03/2011 at 12:34:59
26 Posted 24/03/2011 at 12:25:13
27 Posted 24/03/2011 at 12:39:09
I actually had a pint of "Higsons" bitter in Ma Boyles's about two years ago but on a visit there last month it had disappeared and no-one could remember how they come to stock it. I can only guess it was some sort of commemorative promotion.
I guess the Crow's is still going strong; I live in the Bristol area these days so have to put up with warm, flat stuff they peddle as beer!
28 Posted 24/03/2011 at 13:16:51
29 Posted 24/03/2011 at 13:34:26
Chang is nowhere. Sure you can have a crappy Foster's at about the £3.10 mark, or the preferable HB at £3.90 and everything else in between. But if you want a delicious Paulaner, a pint will set you back about £4.20.
With the upturn in weather though, time to order in those gin and tonics. Lovely.
30 Posted 24/03/2011 at 13:39:45
I actually loved it when Budweisser was at Goodison, rocket fuel in pint form. Those were the 4th-placed days when you had to queue for the beer 15 minutes before half-time and everyone was going mental.
One of the lads had to stop drinking it, as it nearly ended up in divorce. Loved it.
31 Posted 24/03/2011 at 14:17:33
32 Posted 24/03/2011 at 13:41:50
Sonja: "He kissed me".
Boris: "Any place I should know about?"
Sonja: "He warmed the cockles of my heart"
Boris: "That's just great. Nothing like hot cockles"
So not really a positive 'cockles spin' as he's gutted at having his heart broken'
It's as if Sonja is his Kenwright..erm...type stuff.
33 Posted 24/03/2011 at 14:48:39
Coincidentally Carlsberg used the swastika as part of their beer branding in the early twentieth century.
Coincidental to this thread, Carlsberg also used life-sized statues of elephants as their symbol at the factory.
34 Posted 24/03/2011 at 15:18:44
35 Posted 24/03/2011 at 15:25:16
I suffer it but it tastes rank.
36 Posted 24/03/2011 at 15:30:56
I look forward to the day when the royal blue jersies are emblazoned by the word 'Buckfast'. The noise level at Goodison and the Evertonian divorce rate will rise, concomitantly.
37 Posted 24/03/2011 at 15:28:01
38 Posted 24/03/2011 at 16:01:56
39 Posted 24/03/2011 at 17:07:03
40 Posted 24/03/2011 at 17:02:50
41 Posted 24/03/2011 at 17:11:19
42 Posted 24/03/2011 at 18:13:49
I've only ever seen Chang at the match and Tescos, so why doesn't the club come to an agreement with Chang to raise the profile so that it's in every pub, club, supermarket and offy in Merseyside and North Wales, and for a small % the club will promote it.
OK it won't bring in millions but with what we bring into the club may contribute to keeping our up-and-coming players like Anichebe... On second thoughts.
43 Posted 24/03/2011 at 18:13:54
44 Posted 24/03/2011 at 19:29:17
In the morning, brace yourself and drink the Stella like water. Get it down in no more than five gulps. For about a minute you will feel that you have seriously erred. Then a strangely comforting feeling will come over you and you will feel that all is well with the world. If you should vomit during this process, it is essential that you start again asap.
45 Posted 24/03/2011 at 17:02:50
46 Posted 24/03/2011 at 19:41:20
Chang were forced two years back to put an alcohol percentage on the bottle. Previously it contained none and could be anything from 6% to 12% alcohol depending on what they felt like brewing on the day. It says 6.4% but they still use the same laidback brewing methods.
Moreover, Chang in Thailand also contains amphetamines for those of you who enjoy buzzing unwittingly.
The UK/European version of Chang complies to all official brewing standards, therefore it tastes totally different, and in my opinion like piss water.
47 Posted 24/03/2011 at 20:22:04
Sounds like an urban legend.
48 Posted 24/03/2011 at 23:25:47
49 Posted 24/03/2011 at 23:50:15
Best beers are the German ones. Love a good Lowenbrau, Augustiner or Becks. Can drink loads of the stuff and not get a hangover. Although I am a little biased about the Augustiner as I met my missus in the Augustiner beer garden.
50 Posted 25/03/2011 at 08:48:12
And, at the time John is talking about, NO beer in Thailand had the alcohol content on it.
The reason Chang has elephants on it is because it used to be brewed by Carlsberg.
51 Posted 25/03/2011 at 12:41:55
Kuche Kuche (Malawi)
San Miguel (UK)
Wusu (Northwest China)
Halida Beer (Vietnam)
Cardinal Lager (Switzerland)
Carnegie Porter (Sweden)
Pirinsko and Shumensko (Bulgaria)
Splügen and Bock 1877 (Italy)
Troy and Venüs (Turkey).
Saxon Beer (Gluten-free beer)
Ironically Chang was also on this list until 2005 as it was a joint venture between Carlsberg and ThaiBev, but thankfully Carlsberg pulled out in 2005!
Alternatively, if you're really thirsty........
52 Posted 25/03/2011 at 13:59:19
Try Oddbinns in Blackrock - they sometimes stock it.
53 Posted 25/03/2011 at 17:10:13
As for those in need of enlightenment, a lot has been mentioned about beer but if you venture into the heart of Cheshire or find yourself in Harkers in Chester on a race day, may I suggest you try Weetwood's Cheshire Cat bitter, probably the best bitter in the world... Oh how I envy the first timer. And forget the races as you will never leave the bar...
54 Posted 25/03/2011 at 23:00:37
Chang Beer 640 mL
Rest of World Beers shelf ? £2.09
Chang 330 mL
Rest of World Beers shelf ? £1.46
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