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Charlton As Big As Everton!!!

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I don't post on here anywhere near enough but I was incensed by what I have just heard on Sky Sports Sunday Supplement this morning. They were talking about David Moyes and the job he has done with the budget ? a discussion for another time...

However, one pundit then went on to compare Everton to Charlton Athletic and claimed Charlton were as big as Everton. What planet is this guy on? Based on what? We are still, believe it or not, the fourth most successful English team.

Charlton spent 7 years in the Premier League and managed a high of 7th place! They now ply their trade in League One. How can this guy claim they are as big as us! Beggars belief. What a clown!!!

Luke Jones, Formby     Posted 03/04/2011 at 10:24:33

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Tony J Williams
1   Posted 03/04/2011 at 14:32:55

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There was a clue in your first sentence Luke. Sky Sports Sunday Supplement" Most of them are arsehole Laaaahndan worshipers.

Don't sweat it. The only opinion of worth to yourself should be your own.
John Nelson
2   Posted 03/04/2011 at 14:34:55

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As what Tony says Luke, the bell ends on that programme think the centre of the footballing unvierse circles around Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs, with Man Utd, Man City and the redshite being honorary cockneys.

"A shower of twats" is a fitting description for the lot of them. Watched it once out of boredom, and luckily enough Everton were being talked about. Nearly threw the remote at the telly when some Scottich prick proceeded to state that "Everton fans are just happy with things the way they are, even if they finish 5th or 15th"... Unbelievable.

So that comment about Charlton really is no surprise to me. Unfortunately the bigger picture is that some people will believe what these tits will say.

I would definately recommend not to watch that programme again mate, and leave it to the armchair, Tim Lovejoy twats of this world.
Andrew James
3   Posted 03/04/2011 at 14:49:52

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Charlton Athletic are as big as us.

We've won the league...they've...oh. They've won the Football League.

We've won the Cup loads of times and they once won it in the 1940s.

They're playing in a smaller stadium with half the home attendance we get.

It's like looking in the mirror.
David Nicholls
4   Posted 03/04/2011 at 15:14:04

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The 'pundit' in question is Shaun Custis, chief football writer for the Sun and all round smug bastard.

He talks constant bollocks and regularly embarrases himself on Sunday Supplement. The show's presenter Brian Woolnough looked at him in disbelief when he made the comment. He also compared us to Sheffield Wednesday and Leeds.

I nearly put my fist through the screen!
Don Kiddick
5   Posted 03/04/2011 at 16:12:40

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Dave (No 4) ? you say you nearly put your fist through the screen.... well, I once put my foot through it and severed a artery and lost a lot of blood and eventually had my foot amputated. But now I save money on socks, and often can get the shoplifters to just rob a single shoe or trainer, so it's not all bad...

If you ever lose a hand you might think you will only need one glove... but you try and get a glove on your hand without using your other hand. So please be careful and think twice about smashing the tv.

David Hallwood
6   Posted 03/04/2011 at 16:27:36

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I think the clue is in the word 'Sky' because they've got a calendar that everything that happened before 1992 is BS (Bullshit or Before Sky take your pick), and football only began in 1992. So I wouldn't take one milligram's worth of notice to what Sky say. I only wish I didn't have to subscribe to it.

But Charlton cannot be compared to Everton in tradition, honours, attendance, wealth, in fact by any measurement that defines 'big'. He probably meant to say that Charlton is round the corner from our house, but the early morning brandy, and lines of charlie got to his brain first.
James Stewart
7   Posted 03/04/2011 at 16:40:31

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That's what you get for watching Murdoch gutterpress.
Dick Anderson
8   Posted 03/04/2011 at 16:44:37

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I think the Charlton comment was a bit silly but to be fair I guess they were talking about spending power. Can Everton spend much more money then Charlton? Debatable.

They did have a point, though, when the pointed out clubs Everton size can be relegated end up lost in Division 1.

Both Leeds and Sheff Wed are similar sized clubs to Everton remember.

I think the pundits were attempting to highlight how important David Moyes is to Everton. Basically, without him, Everton could be in serious trouble.

If the rumors are true and Moyes is forced to sell Rodwell, Fellaini and Baines without getting any of the money back for his own transfer targets, then Moyes has to quit.

And who would blame him?
Tony McNulty
9   Posted 03/04/2011 at 16:50:35

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Well of course given the history it is objective nonsense, and mental defectives on the TV do talk through the wrong orifice at times.

However, without investment we will remain in terminal decline. In many ways, we are stuck in a time warp, and unless 24/7 produces something soon, we may face even greater indignities. I am reminded of the old Basil Fawlty line, which the Board need to listen to: ?Please try to understand, before one of us dies.?
Ryan Holroyd
10   Posted 03/04/2011 at 16:55:37

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Some of the idiots on here would do well on that program.
Karl Meighan
11   Posted 03/04/2011 at 17:01:33

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This is fuckin insulting, The same Charlton who didn't even have a ground a few years ago. Their claim to fame is signing Alain Simonsen who they couldn't fuckin even afford and had to give him back and Derek Hales there all time greatest striker.

Even without trophies won, there are very few fans who have ever seen Everton play anywhere other than the top flight of English football, can Charlton's fans or many others say the same?
Al Reddish
12   Posted 03/04/2011 at 18:27:31

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I too put a post up here the other day when the same programme angered me by saying the best thing for Everton is to let Moyes manage Spurs when Hawwy goes, and sell our best players, including Rodwell to United as Slur Alex is the only manager to get the best out of young talent, just like he did with Rooney.

I took the good advice of the people on here and turned the lying twats off for ever. They ain't got a clue, only four weeks ago one of them was saying, "Don't rule out the Shite putting in a late surge for the title," the fuckin tits.

Michael Lynch
13   Posted 03/04/2011 at 18:37:35

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Luke, I put the exact same letter in last week reffering to the exact same comments made by MotD. Is this really how people view us? Or, as I suspect, is it Kopites in the media trying to belittle us so much and so often that people will actually believe this?
James Flynn
14   Posted 03/04/2011 at 18:57:20

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Gents ? What do you expect from anything owned by Rupert? He takes a point of view (with piling up the cash his first any only consideration) and goes with it. The talking heads spouting this stuff don't matter.

Not having your knowledge of the game's history, I googled Charlton when seeing this post. My response? Hahahahahahaha! The same reaction as when I look at Fox News.

When we're back on top, EFC will be all the thing on SKY and Shaun Custis will be damning whatever idiot compared the English Football legend Everton with Charlton. Do it with a straight face, too.

Take anything owned by Murdoch for what it is: High Comedy. And have a good laugh.
Gerry Quinn
15   Posted 03/04/2011 at 19:34:25

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This sums it all up with regards to Everton - Fox Soccer highlights showed all the match goals but not the "Beckford one".

Can you imagine the hours of shite they would have discussed around that one being over the line, blah, blah, blah, if that had been frickin United, Arsenal, the Shite or Chelski.

It changed the whole perspective of the game, yet it was mentioned but not shown.
David Thomas
16   Posted 03/04/2011 at 20:31:01

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Dick,

How are Sheff Wed a similar sized club to Everton?

They have won one major trophy in the last 76 years and in that time moved between the top three divisions.

In that time, Everton have won 9 major trophies.
David Thomas
17   Posted 03/04/2011 at 20:45:37

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Luke,

I would just ignore all the media. A few weeks before Euro 2004 Martin Samuel wrote an article saying he was amazed Rooney had been put on the shortlist for Young Player of the Year and basically slated him in a full page article saying he should not even be in the running for the award. A few weeks after, when Rooney dominated the Euros, he was on Sky saying how he was the best young player he had ever seen and anyone who had questioned his ability must be clueless.
Jackie Barry
18   Posted 03/04/2011 at 21:51:20

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We are in danger of becoming insignificant though aren't we. Fans are starting accept what would have been unacceptable a while back. I am seriously beginning to wonder whether I will ever see my once great club win anything ever again.

The abuse that some give because you want success and dare to mention that things are going down the pan is bordering on pathetic in all honesty.
Graham Rathbone
19   Posted 03/04/2011 at 23:57:59

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David Hallwood @ 6 "I only wish I didn't have to subscribe to it".

David, you don't have to subscribe to it, it is shit. I got rid of it last year, waste of £600 a year.

I was sick and tired of the total bias to the "darlings" and the bollocks that we are reading now. I would rather subscribe to Evertontv.com, at least it's biased in the right direction.

Don't give Murdoch any fuckin money.

Iain Fenwick
20   Posted 04/04/2011 at 08:21:20

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I wouldn't let it bother you. It is just in line with most journalism these days. Lazy and un-researched... The Sun and the Mirror are just not worth reading anymore. Unjustifiably arrogant and smug, worthless more like.
Brian Waring
21   Posted 04/04/2011 at 10:31:37

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It was just his opinion, the other 3 journo's didn't agree with him, and I actually thought he looked embarrassed when he realised what he had said.
Norman Merrill
22   Posted 04/04/2011 at 11:36:33

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Brian, you're spot on, mate, when he made the comment, Brian Woolnough was rather surprised at his remark, and the other two both voiced their disapproval at once.

One even told him that Everton were the best side in the league in the mid eighties, although it was no way as money-orientated as at present.
The Sun reporter then tried to make a joke of it.

Anthony Hughes
23   Posted 04/04/2011 at 13:09:51

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Charlton will never be as big a club as us. We must make sure over the next few years we never slip to their level.
Luke O'Farrell
24   Posted 04/04/2011 at 13:36:27

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Seems he has seen the error of his ways, the journalist in question posted this on twitter yesterday:

"Accept flak for Everton Charlton comparison. Meant how Charlton were once 7th lost long serving boss and had no money. Didn't mean as big."

He's still an idiot for saying it though
Karl Meighan
25   Posted 04/04/2011 at 13:58:20

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JackieBerry@18 ? The fact is, even without a recent trophy win, the Sky four apart, Everton's recent history stands up to any other club in the land.

The club's fans and manager are not content with being close, this alone shows the expectations and size of Everton FC.

Bolton, the media tells us, are having a great season; us, on the other hand, are disappointed, and have been average at best, yet we're still above Bolton.

We may not have the finance but the desire, expectation, determination to challenge and the name will always mean were bigger and better than the Charltons of the world.
David Israel
26   Posted 04/04/2011 at 19:10:56

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The Charlton comparison is rather stupid, of course, and could only be uttered by a Londoner. As a matter of fact, they are probably bigger than Crystal Palace but are playing one division below.

But the Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday comparisons make more sense, irrespective of how long ago the Owls won anything. In terms of support ? and that's the main yardstick in my book ? the three clubs are probably very evenly matched, as Aston Villa, for instance, are too.
Matt Traynor
27   Posted 04/04/2011 at 21:36:02

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John #2 quoted the programme: "Everton fans are just happy with things the way they are, even if they finish 5th or 15th". Sometimes reading these pages, I wonder if this doesn't actually apply to a lot of our fans? Apathetic doesn't begin to describe them.

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