First and foremost, I love Tim Cahill. He's a modern Everton hero and deserves a statue for the effort and guts he puts into every single performance.
However, despite him being arguably our best player of the first half of the season (and the only one to score goals), is it just me or have we dramatically improved (in terms of results) with him out of the team?
I know this debate has been had before but can anyone find out what our stats this season have been with him in or out of the team?
I have a strong feeling that they are much better without him. In no way am I dissing him as a player but it may be that, when he does play, there is only really one system that suits him (the Moyes's 4-5-1) and that this system, old as it is, has been worked out by other teams.
Anyway I'm not really sure what point I'm trying to make but was just trying to figure out why we have been doing so much better in these last few months... perhaps it is the absence of other big players? Who knows???
Sam Hoare, Posted 11/04/2011 at 12:24:10
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1 Posted 11/04/2011 at 14:36:42
Rather than analysing Cahill, Moyes should just vary his tactics more rather than persisting with 4-5-1 when is isn't working.
On a side note, I saw an interesting stat today that we've not won this season without Neville in the side ? lost 3, drawn 3.
2 Posted 11/04/2011 at 15:03:55
3 Posted 11/04/2011 at 15:13:14
4 Posted 11/04/2011 at 15:38:47
5 Posted 11/04/2011 at 16:45:44
6 Posted 11/04/2011 at 17:39:45
7 Posted 11/04/2011 at 17:42:03
As for Cahill, in my view, if fit, he plays instaed of Beckford who, despite scoring on Saturday, is still a poor, poor player; not good enough for this League
8 Posted 11/04/2011 at 18:07:33
9 Posted 11/04/2011 at 18:07:26
Can't you see that it's all about putting the ball in the back of the net and that is what Beckford has done nine times this season while not starting most games?
On top of that his first goal last weekend was a great glancing header that other strikers may have headed over the bar, minutes later he did what all strikers are told to do: "head the ball hard and down towards the keeper" and Hennessy did well to save. On top of that we've all seen how hard a shot he has and the intelligent runs that he makes. He's not perfect but I am quickly becoming a Beckford fan and am happy he's a Blue.
As for Cahill, Moyes should find a way to accommodate him and Beckford, then we may just perhaps start to score goals with more regularity. COYB!
10 Posted 11/04/2011 at 18:14:01
In all seriousness though, Beckford has played the equivalent of 10 games less than Cahill and has scored 2 goals less than him. Whilst I'm here, Beckford has played 400 minutes less than Saha, and has scored the same. He's our best goal scoring threat on that basis. So if you consider him not good enough for the PL, it *could* be argued that Cahill and Saha arent good enough for this league either.
11 Posted 11/04/2011 at 18:44:21
12 Posted 11/04/2011 at 18:47:54
Cahill is good at what he does best ie; leaping high and getting on the end of crosses... however, he is FAR from being a top class midfielder.
The article writer is very possibly one of the younger fans who has supported us for a limited number of years so has never seen a top class midfielder in an Everton shirt.
13 Posted 11/04/2011 at 19:42:37
Beckford came to our attention by scoring against Man U and Spurs in big matches. I'm not yet convinced but with patience and a run I'm hoping he'll be doing that again next season!
Re Cahill, I've said it so many times, it's becoming my mantra ? first on the teamsheet for me every time!
14 Posted 11/04/2011 at 19:50:26
Or / and Arteta???
15 Posted 11/04/2011 at 19:51:43
16 Posted 11/04/2011 at 20:22:54
17 Posted 11/04/2011 at 20:44:23
18 Posted 11/04/2011 at 21:05:42
Although Moyes can clearly generate a hard-working, battling spirit amongst the squad, I don't think he actually instills in his players the belief that they can truly compete with the best.
At the weekend he was singing the praises of Leon Osman and proclaiming him to be a really good player, but then added the proviso that he has always been 'slightly below the level required to get into the England squad'. It just reminded me of when he tried to big up Baines by declaring him to be the 'second best' left back in the country after Ashley Cole.
19 Posted 11/04/2011 at 22:40:01
20 Posted 11/04/2011 at 23:02:04
21 Posted 11/04/2011 at 23:08:34
I guess it's testament as to how our stock and expectations have fallen when all we can attract is Championship standard players. I for one didn't see a large queue forming at Leeds when it was clear he was available on a free. A poor man's Marcus Bent... and he was pants!!
22 Posted 12/04/2011 at 00:14:12
23 Posted 12/04/2011 at 02:45:58
Or maybe it's because Osman is now starting in his best position.
24 Posted 12/04/2011 at 05:56:10
Up to recently, Osman was not pulling his puny weight. With Fellaini, Arteta and Cahill being injured, there is nowhere for Leon to hide... and he knows it.
25 Posted 12/04/2011 at 07:34:41
26 Posted 12/04/2011 at 07:22:42
However, I don't see Cahill's best position and certainly not helpful for the team, as a support striker. For me, a support striker is a player with great technical ability, that can create a chance out of nothing like a Sneijder, Ozil or Van der Vaart. For all the positives that Cahill brings to the team, he is certainly not that player and therefore limits our creativeness.
Osman has excelled in the last couple of games as he has been playing in this position, a player that fits the role, just not the same quality as the players mentioned! However, the team has improved with Osman in that position as it is now properly balanced.
Cahill's best position is as an attacking midfielder, ideally in a 3-man central midfield (4-3-3 or 4-5-1) with licence to go forward. This was Cahill's position when he first came to the club and Everton finished 4th, similar to the position Lampard plays for Chelsea. I don't think Lampard has much technical or creative ability, but he knows how to get forward and score.
27 Posted 12/04/2011 at 08:59:48
If Fellaini goes, he would be my quick / cheap fix. And he could see out his contract, and maybe even a year-on-year extension might be in order, coz he doesn't seem to lack stamina and energy.
28 Posted 12/04/2011 at 13:01:45
29 Posted 12/04/2011 at 13:10:02
The analysis of Saturday's win makes interesting reading.
30 Posted 12/04/2011 at 17:35:28
31 Posted 12/04/2011 at 18:34:56
32 Posted 17/04/2011 at 06:42:03
World Cup Qualifiers are later this year though.
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