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Question: What do Everton have in common with Southampton, Millwall, West Ham, Cardiff, Bolton, Wigan and Aston Villa?

Bonus point: Why are Everton worse than Portsmouth, Tottenham, Blackburn, Middlesbrough and Birmingham?

Matthew Lovekin, Brighton     Posted 12/04/2011 at 11:33:12

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Matteo Rosingana
1   Posted 12/04/2011 at 14:47:28

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I think I've got the bonus question: all those teams have won something in the last 10 years. Does that make us worse though?

As for the main question, I'm struggling. Is it something trivial like 'best pie award' or is it something important?
Eric Myles
2   Posted 12/04/2011 at 15:12:59

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1. Beaten FA Cup finalists that didn't qualify for Europe on the back of it?

2. What Matteo said.
Tony J Williams
3   Posted 12/04/2011 at 15:19:14

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1) - They all are football teams.

2) - They all have more letters in their names.
Mark Murphy
4   Posted 12/04/2011 at 15:25:00

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Southampton, Bolton and Aston (Villa) all end in -ton.

Tim Cahill played for us and Millwall as well.

Cardiff's manager used to play for us and will manage us as well one day soon.
West Ham also won the ECWC and Wigan are also from the North West and play in blue and white?

Bonus point ? they aren't.

John Gee
5   Posted 12/04/2011 at 15:57:24

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1. They were all clubs Gary Speed said "I'm delighted to sign for this club, I've been a fan since I was a boy."

2. Lower score in scrabble.
Chris Matheson
6   Posted 12/04/2011 at 17:36:55

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Matthew, at No 1 Matteo has given a good answer to the second question but I am going to suggest that it has to do with UEFA coefficients and rankings.

Oh go on, tell us.....
Dennis Stevens
7   Posted 12/04/2011 at 18:18:40

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Don't Quiz ? Just Quit!
Antony Matthews
8   Posted 12/04/2011 at 18:44:14

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1. ex-Everton players have managed them?
2. What Matteo said
Mike Allison
9   Posted 12/04/2011 at 18:46:58

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The Bonus point they have all won a cup since we last did, but we're certainly not 'worse' than any of them in any way, "if you know yer 'istory" and all that.

The main question lists many recent FA Cup losers but I don't think they all are, maybe they've got to League Cup finals?
Dave Roberts
10   Posted 12/04/2011 at 19:37:04

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Bonus point... Everton were the only 'underdog' not to win a final. (?)
Dave Roberts
11   Posted 12/04/2011 at 19:53:23

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That's why we're worse?
Guy Hastings
12   Posted 12/04/2011 at 19:55:12

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a) Aptly enough, they've all got an 'a' in their name - even Bolton to give them their fill name ? and we haven't.

b) Harry Redknapp has bid for every one of their players.
Dave Roberts
13   Posted 12/04/2011 at 20:10:54

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Yeah, for the bonus point, they've all won the league cup and we haven't. But they were all underdogs in their respective finals and won....so I reckon I earned an extra bonus point! for giving two correct answers!?
Dave Roberts
14   Posted 12/04/2011 at 20:16:07

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And what we have in common with the others is that they have lost a League Cup Final too.
Dave Roberts
15   Posted 12/04/2011 at 20:22:21

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It's great that Wikipaedia!
Matthew Lovekin
16   Posted 12/04/2011 at 21:04:26

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ANSWER: Everton have been a losing Cup (FA Cup or League Cup) finalists in the last 9 years (since Moyes took charge), as have the mentioned teams.

BONUS POINT: Everton are worse than those teams as they have all won silverware in the last 9 years (since Moyes took charge).
Jamie Tulacz
17   Posted 12/04/2011 at 21:44:19

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Can't really say I'd swap places or that we're worse than any of those sides other than Spurs though.
Tony J Williams
18   Posted 12/04/2011 at 22:25:08

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We are worse than Portsmouth and Middlesbrough? Didn't realise they were above us in the league.
Mike Allison
19   Posted 12/04/2011 at 22:35:25

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We're quite a lot better than all of those teams except Tottenham, and I'd rather be in our position than any of theirs bar Tottenham any day of the week.

Also, not enough seems to be made of the fact that Portsmouth effectively cheated to win the FA Cup. They spent money they didn't have on top players they couldn't afford and had to pull off some not-quite-legal tax dodges to achieve it.

The court ruling was along the lines of 'we won't punish you because the letter of the law wasn't quite clear enough, and to punish you fully would put you out of business which is no good to us but you clearly broke the spirit of law and no-one will be allowed to get away with this in future'.
Mike Allison
20   Posted 12/04/2011 at 22:41:28

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Also, I'd argue that if Chelsea hadn't been cheated out of the Champions League semi-final against Barcelona in 2009 we'd have had a very good chance indeed, I think we'd have won.

You have to accept that once you're in a final, luck plays an important part. For example, reaching the final to find an aggrieved, determined and title winning Chelsea team waiting for you or reaching it to find a mediocre Championship side waiting for you.

Kevin Jones
21   Posted 13/04/2011 at 08:33:15

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I Love quiz's even sarcastic one's

A) They all play at football ground

Bonus easy = Victor Anichebe
Mark Stone
22   Posted 13/04/2011 at 09:49:41

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Same of course goes for Blackburn and Birmingham, Tony.
Mark Stone
23   Posted 13/04/2011 at 09:56:20

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Question: What do Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Man City and Liverpool all have in common?

Bonus: Why are Everton better than every remaining team in the English football system?
Alan Clarke
24   Posted 13/04/2011 at 10:12:59

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A1: Teams Moyes could leave us to go and manage this summer.

A2: If you type all those team names into a Word document and change the type to 'symbol' then convert it to Russian then back to English, it spells: "Kenwright is a shithouse".
Norman Merrill
25   Posted 13/04/2011 at 11:45:49

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At least this took rather longer than trying to explain only two minues?
Dick Fearon
26   Posted 13/04/2011 at 11:58:42

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Hibbo hasn't scored for any of them.
Neil McKinney
27   Posted 13/04/2011 at 13:20:04

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Matthew

Correct me if I'm wrong. So this was a (not so) veiled attempt at another anti-Moyes post?

I like it when people pose quiz type questions on here, but this is poor.

Here's some questions for you:

1. Do you really believe that the fact that most of those teams (I'll exclude Spurs as they are in fairly good nick at the moment) won a trophy in the last 9 years and have won nothing else or ever looked like they would win anything else means that they are "better" than us?

2. How many of the managers who were in charge of the teams mentioned at the time they won their singular trophy would you advocate as a replacement for David Moyes, bearing in mind that they would have zero funds available?

I am not being flippant, I am actually interested in your response and anyone else who has an opinion.

For all the teams outside the top 5/6 (since the addition of City to the rich clubs and Spurs' resurgence which has also been backed with plenty of money), winning a trophy is possible but highly unlikely and, if they do win a trophy, it will likely be the last one they see for a decade or more. Very similar to when we won in 1995, a great achievement but a somewhat freak occurrence, as with many of those teams mentioned. We very nearly did it but lost to a strong Chelsea team.

I cannot argue with the frustration at Moyes over team selection, tactics and style of play. I sympathise with the hunger for trophies and the unwillingness to accept mediocrity, I hold those very same frustrations. However, I cannot see the point in this sort of post as I do not agree that those teams are "better" and I would not have wanted any of those managers as a replacement for Moyes.

COYB
Liam Reilly
28   Posted 13/04/2011 at 14:19:04

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Matthew
#1 At least Everton got to a final. I'd have that over a 3rd round knock-out by Shrewsbury or a home beating by Reading any day of the week. Was a great day out, even though we lost, but hey, that's football.

#2 Other than Tottenham, I'd argue that most of those clubs' supporters would find it difficult to agree with you.
Neil McKinney
29   Posted 13/04/2011 at 15:19:35

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Portsmouth - Harry Redknapp
Tottenham - Juande Ramos
Blackburn - Graeme Souness
Middlesbrough - Sshhteve McLaren
Birmingham - Alex McLeish

So which of those powerhouses of football management would you have replaced Moyes with? Bearing in mind that they'd have had zero money to spend (something which Appy Arry seems to struggle with these days).

I'd like to think that at least one of those mentioned above is a definite No No for reasons I need not mention.
Mark Stone
30   Posted 13/04/2011 at 15:25:47

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Why are Arsenal worse than Portsmouth, Tottenham and Birmingham?
Mark Stone
31   Posted 13/04/2011 at 15:34:09

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What silverware have Blackburn Rovers won since Moyes took charge at Everton? I know that they won the league cup in February 2002, but that was whilst Walter Smith was Everton manager.
Dean Adams
32   Posted 13/04/2011 at 18:50:27

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Everton have nothing in common with Southampton, Millwall, West Ham, Cardiff, Bolton, Wigan and Aston Villa. They all wish they could swap places with us.

Portsmouth, Tottenham, Blackburn, Middlesbrough and Birmingham, two of which have been relegated and two more who could be this year. The other have a manager who spends money like it is going out of fashion.

Reality is we are as good as we are and only a handful of teams are currently better, all of whom have spent silly money in the last ten years.

James Hollister
33   Posted 13/04/2011 at 19:33:46

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All those teams have won something in the last 10 years. Does that make us worse though?

From your statement, the mediocrity value seems to be what you value more rather than winning anything.
James Hollister
34   Posted 13/04/2011 at 19:36:07

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Dean Adams ? That manager who spends money like it's going out of fashion, has managed to get his team to the CL QF regardless if Madrid has already ripped them new arseholes, and will do it again tonight... However the money they would have made from progressing and the amount of coefficient points earned, will likely stop them drawing the big teams earlier...

In the mean time, we can't even get past easier teams in the Euro Mickey Mouse Cup.
James Hollister
35   Posted 13/04/2011 at 19:39:27

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Mark Stone ? Blackburn won the league in the 90s, did they not...? Meanwhile, we'll be lucky to finish in mid-table in the future if things are not changed significantly in the summer months.
Ron Broadstairs
36   Posted 13/04/2011 at 19:46:31

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Other than Villa, are they clubs we are aspiring to become?
Sean McCarthy
37   Posted 13/04/2011 at 20:04:37

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What a stupid argument.......If you really think any of those teams (other than Spurs) are 'better' than Everton or the others have anything of substance 'in common' with us then goodbye and good luck watching any one of them instead!!
Jon Cox
38   Posted 13/04/2011 at 20:17:24

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Connection? Easy... we've all been shit at some point of the season.
Mark Stone
39   Posted 13/04/2011 at 20:51:12

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James, have you really just answered my question 'what have Blackburn won since Moyes took charge in march 2002?' with 'the Premier League in the 90s'. Brilliant. Nice to know what we are up against on here.
Dean Adams
40   Posted 13/04/2011 at 21:50:52

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James Hollister ? Have to say I resent your assumption that I am willing to settle for mediocrity. But ,back here in the real world, we have no money and, on that basis, I believe we are doing as well as can be expected. My solution would be to find the players as we have been and keep building, hoping to stay in the frame long enough for our finances to improve.

I really hoped that the 24-year rule would continue and am not happy to have lost that piece of history, but that's life, get used to it.

Sean McCarthy
41   Posted 13/04/2011 at 23:26:22

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Mark ? what have the romans ever done for us???

Maybe in James world time really does go backwards!! in that case enjoy the Millenium celebrations!!!
Karl Masters
42   Posted 13/04/2011 at 23:41:33

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Matthew; Just for you:

Question: What do Everton have in common with Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal?

Bonus point: Why are Everton better than Man City, Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle, Villa, actually all except the 3 mentioned above?

A clue... something to do with League titles......

If you know your history!
Craig Walker
43   Posted 14/04/2011 at 13:23:28

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We've all been recent FA cup losers but the other teams have won the Carling?

It's either that, or it's a Scrabble question.

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