So now we are unbeaten in 7 games with 17 points out of 21 but in fairness these games have all been against teams below us in the league and we would expect to be beating. Next Saturday will see the real test of how this patched-up team has galvanised! Up against the Premier League leaders and Champions League semi finalists but not only that ? we will be up against the match officials as well (this of course is only my opinion!). You just have to look at the ratio of penalties for and against United at Old Trafford to see evidence of this.
I hope with all my blue heart we can sink them next week but, playing against their extra men, I would be happy with a draw in the interests of keeping this run of form and team confidence together.
Thomas Owen, Posted 17/04/2011 at 10:27:27
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1 Posted 17/04/2011 at 17:06:52
There could be some sense in the theory that, earlier on, opponents came only to avoid defeat and now they have to at least try to be more ambitious. (Mind you, Blackburn didn't show much.)
2 Posted 17/04/2011 at 17:58:22
3 Posted 17/04/2011 at 18:42:07
4 Posted 17/04/2011 at 20:13:00
5 Posted 17/04/2011 at 19:53:20
Get a bloody grip will you, if this season has shown anything at all it's that every dog can have it's day and no-ones unbeatable or a pushover in the premier league these days.
Are teams more open and desperate for points now than at the start of the season? Probably (although Blackburn weren't exactly all about constant attacking play).
Are we playing better than earlier in the season? Not noticeably. If anything I'd actually say there's a little less joined up football than earlier matches we dominated without success. The much derided 4-5-1 formation certainly hasn't changed as far as I can see (if anything we've started the last 2 more defensively than ever with Neville and Heitinga in midfield and scored 5 goals!)
Indeed the only difference I can see in recent weeks is that we're having some luck/precision in front of goal and hitting the back of the net.
But why is that? Could it be the extra mercurial sliver of confidence that comes from a winning run, or is it that Moyes tried and tested approach is coming good yet again? Maybe it's players (who largely seem to escape censure here in the rush to abuse Moyes and Kenright) actually stepping up and doing the job they're (grossly over)paid to do or ultimately, perhaps, like so much of football and life, it's just out and out dumb luck.
Whatever the reason, after the considerable lows suffered thus far, I for one am going to take some enjoyment from the fact that Everton are scoring goals, winning matches and looking to finish the season with a flourish.
After all If you can't be happy when your team is winning then when can you be?
Enjoy the now my friend, yesterdays gone and you could get knocked over by a bus tomorrow.
6 Posted 17/04/2011 at 20:32:47
And hitherto, beating the lower half was the problem. We have already beaten Spurs, Liverpool and City and managed draws with Chelsea and Man U. These are the teams above us and getting points off them was never the issue. It was getting tonked at home to the likes of West Brom that was maddening!
7 Posted 17/04/2011 at 21:00:54
Could our early season difficulties also be due to Moyse's "tried and tested approach" of getting the buggars playing in January?
Imagine the "earlybird" take-up if the season's pattern were reversed!
8 Posted 17/04/2011 at 21:45:48
9 Posted 17/04/2011 at 21:51:46
The trouble is, without cash this Summer to support a decent squad, including one or two big money buys, we would seriously struggle with the extra games in Europe. When push came to shove, look what happened to Spurs. With our squad we would be in trouble. So, back again to the conclusion of thousands of us on Toffeeweb: we need some investment or a new owner to go further.
Everton sometimes remind me of what Mark Twain said about the weather: ?Everyone complains about it, but nobody ever does anything about it?
10 Posted 17/04/2011 at 22:32:40
I don't go along with this "tried and tested" theory that we only start playing properly in January. That is undoubtedly the case over the last 2 seasons but I can think of 4 seasons under Moyes where we were better in the first half.
11 Posted 18/04/2011 at 00:36:22
Walter Smith saved us from relegation. The Moyes years have been years of wasted opportunity.
12 Posted 18/04/2011 at 01:51:59
13 Posted 18/04/2011 at 07:59:34
Every team in the division will think "if only". If only Carrick had hoofed it forward, Man U might be in the final. If only Eboue hadn't tried to hump Lucas in the box, Arsenal would have won. If only Howard hadn't totally cocked up in the first game against Blackburn this season and Heitinga had bothered to tackle against Blackpool and Beckford had scored away at Sunderland, we'd be sat above the shite now. For the most part, we have been shite this season. It says it all when our best 2 players this season have been 2 defenders. Don't let a run of 7 games start clouding your judgement to start thinking we're suddenly world beaters.
The pressure is off, expectation is low and the sun has come out. That's why we're winning. We didn't win those other games when it mattered and that's why we'll not finish higher than 7th.
14 Posted 18/04/2011 at 09:47:48
15 Posted 18/04/2011 at 08:58:56
A lot of us had hoped we could find those extra 3 wins that would have had us in the mix for the CL places, unfortunately we couldnt.
Many were ridiculed for daring to hope for a top four place, "we are relegation candidates" they were told. Happily the glass half empty fans were proved even wider of the mark.
We are dying, we desperately need investment just to compete on a level playing field - no matter who is the manager is.
But what a turnaround ! The people who were predicting relegation are now claiming we coulda/woulda/shoulda. . . .its now seems the people with the lowest expectations have suddenly and retrospectively developed the highest
16 Posted 18/04/2011 at 09:52:01
Nonsense lad, when we embarked on this unbeaten run, we whad just been dumped out by Reading, dozens of people - you included - were screaming we were in a relegation battle. The "pressure" was as great as intense as it has been under Moyes`s leadership.
Only now are the panic merchants and the mathematicians who predicted 44 points would be needed to stay up, starting to relax.
A loser - Somebody who thinks there is ever a time when winning doesnt matter
17 Posted 18/04/2011 at 10:24:44
The start of the season was awful and if it wasn't for the fact that I believe the summer can only weaken us as a team, then I'd already be looking forward to next season. Instead I am filled with trepidation.
But winning is winning and it makes no odds to me who the teams are because I'm determined to finally enjoy a winning run. It doesn't paper over the cracks for me, but it makes life as an Evertonian just a bit more pleasant and right now I'll take it.
I don't think a run of 7 games unbeaten makes us "world beaters" and I haven't read any posts on here that suggest anyone has. I also didn't realise that the weather affected our ability to win, but if it does, long may the sun shine.
18 Posted 18/04/2011 at 11:12:31
Go there with pride,
Go there with no fear,
Go there unchanged
Go there with 4-4-2
Go there and attack
AND KICK ASS !
19 Posted 18/04/2011 at 10:30:05
20 Posted 18/04/2011 at 12:08:24
Maybe I was foolish enough to believe we should have been beating the likes of West brom, Wolves and Newcastle at home. I don't think many would have predicted our recent run especially with all the injuries so it's not right to criticise those who feared the worst.
21 Posted 18/04/2011 at 12:25:27
Everyone has gathered this season has been frustrating. We did actually have a genuine chance of the top 4(and I wouldnt have guessed it to the world) this season. If we beat those teams, like Alan said at home, then we would be right up there. That is the sad thing.
However, at least it gets us a summer of optimism and hope again that if we do actually have a good start, we would be right up there. If we sell one of our big guns as well, we can buy some players to improve our team.
But then again, when have we ever had a good start?
22 Posted 18/04/2011 at 12:46:06
Plenty we lost could have been wins and plenty of wins could have been losses.
The difference between us and 5 other sides in this league is marginal.
I've got a feeling that we will beat Man Utd, but over a season we still wont get close to them. Not without big changes anyway.
23 Posted 18/04/2011 at 12:27:29
I just felt a lot of people pressed the panic button unnecessarily; sure we had started badly but, given our run of fixtures, was this run really so hard to predict? We were going to be playing inferior teams who would have their injury problems too.
Slow starts under Moyes have sadly become predictable... but so too has the fact that, at some stage of the season, his team WILL put a run together.
That's not a defence of Moyes: in some way it's really quite damning,
Jim Hourighan's excellent article (25 March 2011) highlights how depressingly predictable our seasons have become.
Moyes's fault? Not really ? he does exactly what it says on his tin.
24 Posted 18/04/2011 at 12:59:48
25 Posted 18/04/2011 at 13:04:04
I certainly felt we could get a few points against them and enough to stay out of relegation, but certainly not enough to finish comfortably in the top half and a chance to finish above Liverpool. It is a testament to Moyes and the players to recover in the way they did.
But I agree, the panic of relegation was a bit ott.
26 Posted 18/04/2011 at 13:00:36
Moyes has built the team on a solid backline in previous seasons and we have been difficult to break down.
This season until recently we have been a shambles defending corners and have conceded far to many goals that should have easily been avoided.
We are always likely to score once in most games but having to score two and three with how the team is set up is unlikely in most games.
It's also noticeable imo that when are central midfielders are given licence to drive into the opponents penalty area with the ball and not always passing sideways we look a more threatening team.
The ball may be given away more but better this than Jageilka and Distan pumping long balls onto the Samba's of the worlds head.
Of course we would still love that 20-25 goal a season striker but being confident of shutting out the opponents is just as important.
27 Posted 18/04/2011 at 13:18:13
28 Posted 18/04/2011 at 13:51:29
I don't really see much hope this time around, but stranger things have happened this season.
29 Posted 18/04/2011 at 14:47:10
Stats are used to confuse, excuse and shroud real facts... please don't fall into the media claptrap lies and deceit.
I can well remember the Moores days when we were known as the Mersey Millionaires and, let's face it... Liverpool ruled with BOTH teams doing better than the Manchester sides without foreign players to bolster them up.
When the league had a level playing field, the title was won by many different teams until Liverpool's domination... where were Man Utd then???
30 Posted 18/04/2011 at 19:06:25
31 Posted 18/04/2011 at 19:43:28
And if you don't fear the consequences of Kenwright appointing another manager you... well actually, Andy, I don't for one minute believe you don't have very grave reservations about Kenwright choosing a replacement.
I want Moyes here, as long as Kenwright is.
32 Posted 18/04/2011 at 19:51:48
We have probably achieved exactly what the crapy pundits forecast at the start of the season and no more, so for me we have neither achieved or not achieved. End result is for me disappointing.
33 Posted 19/04/2011 at 05:18:34
34 Posted 19/04/2011 at 09:03:32
Hopefully though their mind will be on the Champions League and we can snatch a scrappy win.
35 Posted 19/04/2011 at 11:12:12
Now we're playing 'Sunday League' football according to some fellow Toffeewebbers after the Wolves game, but winning. It seems unless we're playing like Barcelona, scoring like Barcelona and winning like Barcelona, all on a non-existent budget, we're not allowed to be happy with our team and manager without being accused of being sheep/accepting mediocrity/holding the club back and all the other bollocks we're guaranteed to get from some miserable bugger or other on this site.
36 Posted 22/04/2011 at 03:22:19
3 pointless points I suppose after what we've thrown away but I'm going to fill my boots with the odds ? late winner, 2-1, 1-0....
37 Posted 22/04/2011 at 23:59:27
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