With Tim Cahill nearing full match fitness, I was wondering what fellow blues thought about him returning to the side? I feel on current form Osman should be kept in the hole off Beckford as he has shown what a good wee player he can be.
Timmy is a legend but I feel now maybe the time has come to look for a different type player to play in the famous hole of the front man that Moyes likes so much. I am not saying Osman is the long term answer but somebody tricky with a good eye for a pass and a good shot should be looked at rather than Cahill who just seems to score with his head.
My candidates would be Bilyaletinov? With somebody fresh we could use Cahill as an impact sub and back-up striker if needed. It will let us move our play onto a new level and play the school of science stuff.
Stephen Leary, Posted 18/04/2011 at 21:35:53
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1 Posted 19/04/2011 at 06:20:09
2 Posted 19/04/2011 at 07:47:18
When he is fit, I'll be glad to see him in the side again. We really are down to our bare bones.
3 Posted 19/04/2011 at 08:26:09
They'll have heard of him, they'll have watched him in action but they won't know what's hit them when they've got to deal with him in their face and they're tired.
4 Posted 19/04/2011 at 08:44:54
5 Posted 19/04/2011 at 08:59:46
6 Posted 19/04/2011 at 09:08:12
Cahill is undoubtedly quality, and one of our most important players. However his style makes it harder for other to excel it seems.
For me he starts on the bench for now, he wont be match fit anyway remember.
If he comes off the bench and scores us a winner etc, or plays back into the team then thats great for everyone and the fair way to do it.
Just to put it out there, can anyone else see Moyes dropping Beckford and playing Osman behind Cahill?
7 Posted 19/04/2011 at 09:47:59
8 Posted 19/04/2011 at 09:59:04
Bring Cahill on for the last 20 and let him give the defenders Hell, if Vidic hasn't been sent off by then
9 Posted 19/04/2011 at 10:10:54
10 Posted 19/04/2011 at 11:55:05
11 Posted 19/04/2011 at 12:26:00
12 Posted 19/04/2011 at 12:27:55
(And if you?re suggesting that Cahill?s our top scorer, you?d be wrong. He?s actually joint second, behind Saha and level with Beckford, who has played fewer games and has had much, much less game time)
IQ now 35 and climbing.
13 Posted 19/04/2011 at 12:36:48
Its been along time since, and lets hope he gives the Aussie friendly's a miss in June.
I just hope his priority, is in getting fit for the Blues.
14 Posted 19/04/2011 at 12:44:43
Osman has been doing well recently, but it's well known that he has this ability against lesser opposition. Let?s hope he?s not anonymous against United midfield, which is all too often the case.
15 Posted 19/04/2011 at 13:49:54
If TC is fit he WILL start, no doubt about it.
Osman, Baines, Neville, Hibbert and Distin have been the players that have dragged us through this injury period and wanting to avoid feedback but Billy is shite, he avoids the tackle, he's slow and lacks vision but hey that's why we all have different opinions.
16 Posted 19/04/2011 at 13:54:32
17 Posted 19/04/2011 at 13:54:53
18 Posted 19/04/2011 at 14:00:35
19 Posted 19/04/2011 at 14:08:02
There is also no way that Osman will make way for ANYONE at the moment so all the debate is meaningless !!
20 Posted 19/04/2011 at 14:00:02
Can't agree with your MOTM assesment in that game, however Osman undoubtably has the tools, but for me, too often fails to live up to his promise in the big games.
Cahill on the other hand, is a big game player and should start if fit.
21 Posted 19/04/2011 at 14:15:35
22 Posted 19/04/2011 at 14:18:42
Nev, Jags, Distin, Baines,
Coleman, Osman, Cahil, Arteta
But, we'll most likely go with Bily instead of Cahill, and Gueye instead of Arteta. They are in the team, have been winning, while Cahill and Arteta will lack matchtime. The bench will look more recognisable. I haven't known some of the guys on it recently.
They should go out and enjoy it; see it an opprtunity and a challenge. The onus is on Utd; pity Rooney will be back, right?
23 Posted 19/04/2011 at 14:49:29
24 Posted 19/04/2011 at 15:01:12
25 Posted 19/04/2011 at 16:54:18
I'd keep pretty much the same side, Rodwell for Heitenga. Bring on Cahill for the last 30 minutes. Not sure if Arteta is match-fit yet. I'd rather him sit this one out.
26 Posted 19/04/2011 at 17:01:11
27 Posted 19/04/2011 at 20:03:18
I agree that we have a great chance of getting points ( or more likely point) off a United side with eyes on other prizes and some tired legs and I also believe we should stick with pretty much a winning team, or at least the one that ended up winning last match (Vellios aside).
Partly it's the confidence in the side and proving to players that good performances = continued opportunities, but it's also down to giving youth and overlooked players (like Bily) as much of a chance to prove themselves as possible so we understand what squad depths we do have and/or to increase their exposure (i.e. add another couple of million to Rodwell and Billy's price tags). And yes I'm happy to sanction them both moving on in the summer (Bily isn't a bad player but he's not the winger we need and from what I've seen Rodwell has equally as much chance of being a Jeffers as a Rooney so if the silly money is there when we need it we should grab it, I'd rather keep Felliani and Baines).
For me Cahill and Arteta have to start on the bench both from the sake of playing them in (launching into this sort of game from the off has off-the-pace and injury re-occurrence allover it) as for their potential super-sub impact.
Preferred starting line up...
Obviously Gueye's a fall-guy in this and it's close run with Bily for who should start on the left, but his lack of experience is likely to be more exposed here than in most games.
28 Posted 20/04/2011 at 00:05:45
Dont get me wrong, he should be kept on, no question but do we have enough funds to actually do both?
29 Posted 20/04/2011 at 09:45:28
30 Posted 20/04/2011 at 13:06:01
31 Posted 20/04/2011 at 13:09:28
32 Posted 20/04/2011 at 13:09:28
33 Posted 20/04/2011 at 19:12:50
I'd start with
Coleman, Neville Rodwell Magaye
34 Posted 20/04/2011 at 19:24:06
We have a player who still has a lot to offer especially away from home in a 4-5-1.
He cannot continue to play 50-60 games a season or he will be finished in 2 years.
Used properly he could play for anothr 4. For me 4-4-2 at home sometimes without Cahill and 4-5-1 away with Tim playing.
35 Posted 21/04/2011 at 07:24:55
Cahill is Everton 2005 ? blood and guts, hard work, percentages... nowadays, he looks completely out of his depth to me. Someone used the word "quality" further up to describe him. That would probably be the last word that would come into my head in describing Tim Cahill.
Technically (apart from with his head) he is rank average. The improvement in the team's style without him in it has been clear. More movement, more guile... and more football on the floor in and around the box. Thanks and all that, but time to move on.
36 Posted 21/04/2011 at 10:33:53
Cahill to start the match.
37 Posted 21/04/2011 at 16:15:33
In those 2½ years, Cahill has scored 28 goals, far and away our leader in that department. If that's what Neil calls "a few headers" and "garbage", then I'd say most of the garbage is inside Neil's header.
38 Posted 21/04/2011 at 19:24:59
Like Pienaar, he was better than what we had when he signed but the team has outgrown him and he?s become a limiting factor. I remember saying two summers ago that we should flog him whilst his profile was high, because he was worth far more to us in the bank than he was on the pitch.
I think that we?re probably still in the minority but, now that the whole ?It?s only Cahill?s goals keeping us up; just watch us fall apart when he?s away at the Asian Cup? myth has evaporated, more people are coming around to our way of thinking.
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