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The Curious Incident of the Boos & the Applause

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Yesterday at Goodison Park, we witnessed the return of two former Everton Players ? both with very different playing records at Goodison but both departed under a cloud; however, one was more public than the other.

Joleon Lescott came from Wolves for a fee of circa £5m and slotted in straight away in defence ? flitting between Left Back and Centre Back and being equally adept at both. So much so that, in his first season here, current flavour of the month, Leighton Baines, was sat on the bench for most of it as David Moyes felt he could not drop any of Jagielka, Yobo or Lescott ? and in my opinion rightly so.

Things moved on and the one constant in the team was Joleon Lescott, pretty much ever-present at the back and chipping in with a very respectable number of goals at the other end ? including one at Anfield. His form was so good that he eventually caught the attention of other clubs ? namely Manchester City. Joleon wanted to go to (a) further his career with a club that was and is on a fast track to winning things; and (b) double his wage packet.

Who could blame him? Not me. He didn?t handle it well though and according to reports he had to indicate to Man City that he was serious about joining them. He did this with an infamous strop that was very unprofessional for a player on mega bucks anyway and one who was obviously very happy at being an Everton player at the time until Manchester City had registered their interest. It still hurts and he subsequently gets dogs abuse when he returns. At the end of the saga, we got a fee of £23m, making a profit of £18m on a player who had been nothing short of outstanding in an Everton shirt.

Jô, on the other hand, in two loan spells at Everton, was utter shite. Comfortably the worst player I have ever seen in an Everton short. A couple of half-decent finishes whilst he was here but overall a complete lack of effort in his play, an awful touch, a point blank refusal to tackle and as bad as any other centre-forward I have ever seen in the air. We were obviously paying his wages whilst he was here (or at least subsidising them) and, even if we didn?t pay a fee to take him on loan, he was still expensive for what he gave back.

His second loan spell was cut short because, whilst we were in the middle of a striker shortage, he decided to go back to Brazil on holiday. He was subsequently suspended and his loan terminated. Man City didn?t want him back either and sent him straight on-loan to Galatasary ? where he was also a miserable failure.

He came back to Goodison Park yesterday and, when he comes on as a late sub, gets a round of applause. From me he didn?t even deserve a boo as he was that insignificant here. Should it have been the other way around?

Gareth Humphreys, Formby     Posted 08/05/2011 at 10:37:54

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Chris Bannantyne
1   Posted 08/05/2011 at 17:40:06

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Well, I see your point like, but you tend to get upset and boo the players that meant something to you, ie Lescott. And yeah, Jo got some applause but it weren't exactly an ovation either, it was a bit like "Eh, didn't that Jo fella play for us for a little bit?" "Oh aye, he did too. Scored a couple goals too if memory serves." "Oh did he now? 'spose I'd better give him a bit of a clap then" *Clap, clap, clap* "Yeah, why not? It will piss old Joleon Iscariot off anyways" *clap clap clap*

and that's pretty much how it happened, word for word, so I believe.

And I don't know so much about Jo being the worst fella to ever pull on the blue shirt, don't get me wrong he was pretty shithouse but, up until yesterday's game I would have swapped him for Anichebe any day. He found the back of the net a few times at least.

He really is THE odd man out at Man City though isn't he?
Steve Guy
2   Posted 08/05/2011 at 18:14:15

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To answer your question as succinctly as possible........No
John Audsley
3   Posted 08/05/2011 at 18:20:06

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Erm... No.

Lescott is a twat and deserved to be booed for the way he behaved during the City transfer.

Jô is just a lazy misfit, odd he got applause but maybe it was sarcy or just to fuck Lescott off.
Chris Matheson
4   Posted 08/05/2011 at 18:21:51

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Everton fans have a long and honourable tradition of welcoming former players back on their return to Goodison. Except where the player is one that left acrimoniously.

Joleon fits that category. There's a fair chance he will have an FA Cup winner's medal next week and will play in that corrupt self-perpetuating oligarchy the "Champions" League next year. All well and good in terms of ambition and success, then. He is playing for two or three times the decent money he was on at Everton. Fair does.

But the manner of his leaving was a disgrace. He refused to play in one match for us, and didn't he ignore the fans when they were calling his name, whilst he was sat in the stand or dug-out? Graceless and without any class.

So the singing of "Lescott, what's the score?" was as predictable as it was amusing.

I agree Jô was hopeless and, whereas I approve of giving him a good welcome as a former player (I clapped him), I am sure there was a large element that was cocking a snoop at Lescott.
Chris Matheson
5   Posted 08/05/2011 at 18:29:20

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And another thing, if I may. Although it is slightly off topic.

After we went 2-1 up, I went to Twitter to post "Lescott, what's the score". Yes I know, very juvenile.

I had been beaten to the post by one Landon Donovan, who I follow on twitter. He had posted something like "Yees come on the Toffees" as we had taken the lead. He must've been watching the game on TV in America.

If we are talking about former players, well there's one who deserves a massive welcome whenever he comes back to Goodison, as it is clear that he still thinks and really cares about our club.
John Shaw
6   Posted 08/05/2011 at 18:30:03

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No. Lescott behaved like a twat during the move, like ignoring the St End fans chanting his name as the Arsenal game was about to kick off !

As for Jo being worst player, not by quite some distance, for that I give you one Brett Angell, brought a whole new meaning to the word shite!

Kendall looked at him and filed him under shite, until Mike Fukin Permatan Walker went and bought him! Never mind nearly getting us relegated ? Walker should have been sacked for buying the useless bastard!
Gavin Ramejkis
7   Posted 08/05/2011 at 18:52:25

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Lescott was a greedy bastard that fucked up big time when Arsenal tore us a new one with a tit lip for the whole game and caused unrest, whereas Jo was never an Everton player just one we borrowed from another side, he was gash but we didn't pay millions for him. On Lescott's display yesterday I'd say we got a good payday from him as he looked shite, given their money I'm sure Shitty will be looking to get shut.
Kevin Hudson
8   Posted 08/05/2011 at 19:40:30

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The difference between the two is that one of them intentionally behaved dishonourably, whilst the other was simply feckless.
Andrew James
9   Posted 08/05/2011 at 20:28:26

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Lescott became a hero to me on the night of the away game in Kharkov. But his behaviour was unacceptable in the summer of 2009. He should have handed in a transfer request much earlier because City were allegedly on his case before the FA Cup Final.

For me he was a coward and hoped Everton's dire financial state might allow him to leave nicely. If he wanted to leave, he should have made it much clearer say in June. It was a summer without a tournament so there was no distraction. He disrupted pre-season and was a major factor for our dreadful start. We deserved a little more honesty and forethought.

BUT ? he might win a medal next week yet he has fallen down the pecking order for England since leaving us. He rarely scores anymore and doesn't always start for City. I hope, one day, he looks back and recognizes that his development as a player stagnated after leaving.
David McKitt
10   Posted 08/05/2011 at 21:01:47

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Speaking of former players there on Saturday... how good was it to see Duncan and how much it meant to him. He puts Lescott to shame.
Col Noon
11   Posted 08/05/2011 at 22:24:46

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Time to move on with the whole Lescott saga. I for one am bored to death of it. His behaviour througout the long drawn out affair was unnaceptable but it's water under the bridge. Better players have and will leave in the future. Who can honestly blame him for leaving?

Pointless article... sorry.
Tony Rice
12   Posted 08/05/2011 at 22:35:55

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Not curious at all.....

Jô receiving some polite applause was just a further way of sticking it to Lescott for his behaviour prior to his move.....

John Anderson
13   Posted 08/05/2011 at 22:55:24

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"Jô the worst Everton player, comfortably by some distance" ? Brett Angell was shite, but I'll give you Mark Hottiger, Claus Thompsen, Carl Tiler, Gareth Farrelly... Jô is by no means our worst player.
Chris Thornton
14   Posted 09/05/2011 at 08:53:19

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And don't forget Bernie Wright and Rod Belfitt.
Dave Roberts
15   Posted 09/05/2011 at 09:10:35

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I think everything has been said concerning the original post but while we are on the subject of Saturday's game, does anybody have any idea what the spat between Neville and Mancini was about? It didn't seem to be connected to the original incident with Coleman and sitting in the Upper Bullens it was only on MOTD that I saw how pale with anger Neville was and Mancini was shitting himself!

Anybody a bit closer with info? I know it shouldn't interest me but I have learned to despise Shitteh over the last couple of years and Mancini is even more ungracious in defeat than Raffa was!
Tony J Williams
16   Posted 09/05/2011 at 09:35:06

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Dave, he proved how ungracious he was with the long ball comment, yes we did have the long ball mentality for most of the game but the two goals came from a free kick and a cross from the right wing, long ball goals are punts upfield for the forward to chase.
Kevin Hudson
17   Posted 09/05/2011 at 10:27:41

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Agreed. His long-ball comment is up there with Rafa's "small club," jibe. Undignified & petulant.

Fuck him! He looks like an aftershave commercial.
Alan Clarke
18   Posted 09/05/2011 at 11:02:10

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City were comfortable when we played long ball. It was when we started playing higher up the pitch and passing it they fell apart. There were 8 Everton passes in the lead up to Osman's goal.

As for Lescott, he's a twat. I hope City get Champions League football and he gets sold to Villa in the summer.
Tony J Williams
19   Posted 09/05/2011 at 11:09:11

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Lescott will see it as a good move... but, let's be honest, he would be on the bench for the season if it wasn't for Toure's "slimming pills"... yeah right!
Dick Fearon
20   Posted 09/05/2011 at 11:38:24

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We were hanging on to a slender lead when City brought on Jô. Perhaps the applause was not so much for Jô as a sign of gratitude to Mancini.
James Marshall
21   Posted 09/05/2011 at 13:22:56

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I love Lescott - 1 good season for us, we flog him for £18m and he turns out to be shit for City! Genius bit of business - he should be applauded (sarcastically). Jo is always worth a clap, because he's something that happens to rhyme with exactly that.
Dave Roberts
22   Posted 09/05/2011 at 13:24:10

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To be fair, I think we played some decent stuff in the second half, primarily because taking Hibbert off and putting Beckford on gave us more options than just lobbing the ball up to Anichebe. Then putting Cahill on terrified their defence, unsettling the whole team (given his record against them I'm not surprised). It was like letting a Tasmanian devil into a chicken coop!

From then on there was only one team in it!
Ernie Baywood
23   Posted 09/05/2011 at 13:58:36

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Just common sense. If a player is good for us then we, as fans, don't want to see him go. With our current standing there aren't many ways a player can leave that couldn't be considered 'acrimonious'.

Whereas if a player is shit we're glad to see the back of them and wish them well.

Its a little bit absurd but, hey ho, shit happens eh. I'm sure neither Lescott nor Jo will be worrying about it too much as they reach for their respective ivory backscratchers.
Karl Meighan
24   Posted 09/05/2011 at 14:51:36

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I have to agree with the poster concerning Lescott, he was a great player for us and we also made big money on him.

Him getting stick is probably down to how gutted most of us were to see him go.

I don't think Jô was as bad as Gareth makes out but he certainly wasn't quality and him getting a decent reception is more down to nobody was bothered to see the back of him.
Jim Potter
25   Posted 09/05/2011 at 17:04:54

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Come on, be generous... If anyone deserves the clap ? it's Lescott.

Worse player ? does no one remeber Glenn Keeley's one and only appearance? A terrible memory.
Trevor Lynes
26   Posted 09/05/2011 at 17:23:56

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Jim #25....I hope you mean 'clap' in the real sense ????
Ciarán McGlone
27   Posted 09/05/2011 at 18:04:40

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I doubt Joleon's move would've been 'acrimonious' if Moyes hadn't fucked about playing the moral highground card... and he should never have played in that Arsenal match.

Booing him is pointless and petty -- he was an employee, not a fan.
Dalziel Kane
28   Posted 10/05/2011 at 01:41:01

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I never had an issue with Lescott being sold. Sometimes you can't hold it against players who want to move if they think it's a step in the right direction or to better their careers; he was a good player, solid defender but it's water under the bridge now. We got a tidy sum from City for him, way over anything his real valuation; it was a good piece of business and Lescott has hardly been player of the season since his arrival, but what the kid does now is his business.

I was kind of excited when Jô came in, was eager to see what he could do; apart from a few goals here and there it was an all round disappointment, another over-rated and over-priced player, time to move on.
Brendan O'Doherty
29   Posted 10/05/2011 at 01:43:58

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Mancini is an ungracious twat whose team of mercenaries didn't like it up them. Enjoyed Nev telling him where to get off. He'll be out of a job soon enough.

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