Everton have really pissed me off even more so this season after so much was expected last Summer. I listened the other day to a RedShite player extolling the virtues the new coach Steve Clark. How he had really zipped up training and that they were moving the ball with more pace etc etc... What do our coaching staff do? Our Play is slow, predictable and never seems to go forward.
I am getting to the stage where I really don't give a fiddlers fuck anymore. You know what, I also could't care less about wether Billy Liar stays or goes. If the masses carry on supporting him then so what? I have decided that Everton will not get any more money from me until he is gone.
So My grandson will get a Barca Kit or a Brazil kit. No more Everton Pajamas or School pen sets. "Renew a season ticket" ? you must be fucking joking! Bill, I surrender ? have your train set; I will go and play with something else.
Saints are building a new stadium 15 minutes from me... maybe I'll start to go there. Just given my seats away for the Chelsea game, I will be off to play golf.
I really just don't give a damn anymore.
Steve Sweeney, Posted 11/05/2011 at 16:05:32
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1 Posted 11/05/2011 at 16:42:56
2 Posted 11/05/2011 at 16:48:12
You sound a bit confused. If you don't care whether he is chairman or not, why does his presence fundamentally alter your financial relationship with the club?
3 Posted 11/05/2011 at 16:51:40
4 Posted 11/05/2011 at 16:52:08
5 Posted 11/05/2011 at 16:53:59
Fair advice, now I think about it.
6 Posted 11/05/2011 at 16:56:50
7 Posted 11/05/2011 at 17:23:58
8 Posted 11/05/2011 at 17:22:00
I don't mean relegation. I don't mean administration. I mean fail to exist, perhaps the first Premier League club to do so.
I don't see much future for the club as a going concern the way it is being run. Don't see anyone investing enough to make a difference and certainly no-one buying the club.
I have no idea who really 'owns' the club as it seems we have loans out everywhere, and are not able to build on the land inside the stadium.
I absolutely live for Everton, and yet, to completely contradict myself, I've never felt less interested in football or Everton as I do right now. Just thinking of the club and what next season may hold in regard to squad size/quality exhausts me.
Just to end on a more positive note, nothing beats days like Saturday against Man City, the crowd etc. I guess that is why I keep coming back.
9 Posted 11/05/2011 at 17:30:00
10 Posted 11/05/2011 at 17:27:26
I think we have the lying prick until he pops his clogs, which can't come quick enough for me.
11 Posted 11/05/2011 at 17:37:39
12 Posted 11/05/2011 at 18:03:23
There must be thousands who feel the same as I. He is a boil on our once great club. Do you think he gives a toss about us fans? If he did, he wouldn't be with us now.
13 Posted 11/05/2011 at 18:32:58
I have hated this season from Blackburn away onwards, I am sick of leaving my seat early not being able to take the taunts from chav club fans sitting to the left of me all season, but jacking it all in is not going to help the name of Everton and that is what it is about, not the lying clown, he will go eventually.
I have seen a good few jack it in and once they go you never come back, their birds won't let them for starters and Saturdays become chore days... keep the faith and watch some DVDs to cheer you up ? I do and it works.
14 Posted 11/05/2011 at 18:53:02
You´ll be back.
EVERYONE comes back.
15 Posted 11/05/2011 at 18:52:10
16 Posted 11/05/2011 at 19:36:15
So I would prefer we bide our time for now, remain in the top flight and choose our time to take advantage. This of course requires us to remain at the top table which I believe we will do.
17 Posted 11/05/2011 at 19:58:42
18 Posted 11/05/2011 at 20:15:02
It's easy to remember the good times but what the players are paid we should be expecting better football ? money or no money in the transfer kitty.
19 Posted 11/05/2011 at 20:30:02
20 Posted 11/05/2011 at 20:44:39
I thought there'd be a lot more Steven Astley (#4) type posts but it seems the section of congregation feeling this way cannot simply be left by the wayside...
21 Posted 11/05/2011 at 21:12:55
Fair play to you, enjoy your Rugby ? or what ever it is Saints play
22 Posted 11/05/2011 at 21:05:52
No matter how it happened, I'm pleased this one got through ? as it's therapeutic knowing someone actually feels worse than me, for once.
I just hope for Steve and all our sakes, that BK is not the new Doug Ellis.
23 Posted 11/05/2011 at 21:18:25
Appreciate your frustration, we all feel; to be so close and yet still outside looking in.
But pushing your kids towards rooting for that big fish in the La Minor Liga pond instead of EFC? Come on now.
24 Posted 11/05/2011 at 21:32:36
I'm not renewing my season ticket this year. I can no longer justify the expense when the club is being so badly run. I don't want Kenwright and co having my secured income. I am not turning my back on the club though and I will still try and get to a few home games, maybe even some away games which I forego to get to all the homes.
25 Posted 11/05/2011 at 21:41:02
Perhaps you can go to the rugby with Steve?
26 Posted 11/05/2011 at 21:38:57
I think that's why there haven't been so many #4 type posts, as we all chipped in back then.
You'll be back Steve, and why not? Fans never used to know or give a fuck about what went on behind the scenes. Caring about the boardroom is losing sight of what football's actually about. Its our 11 fellas against their's, and you'll never stop wanting ours to win. Everything else is just bullshit to fill the time between matches.
27 Posted 11/05/2011 at 22:18:05
28 Posted 11/05/2011 at 22:43:12
I should know I've felt it for the last 50 years willing them to do well, feeling thoroughly depressed when they dont but at least I've had the benefit of John Moores's stewardship of the club when we did have a proper chairman who everybody respected.
The current lying, deceitful charlatan cant go quick enough for me and I understand certain fans feel disenchanted with life right now. Some of us will continue to look to the good times to help us through the bad times but how many Evertonians have we lost through this current regime.
I dread to think.
29 Posted 11/05/2011 at 23:14:07
Don't forget to close the door on your way out.
30 Posted 11/05/2011 at 23:12:31
It's the top heavy distribution of money which is killing the competition, killing the game and making it virtually impossible for most teams to win anything.
We may be the 'best of the rest', and fair play to Moyes for that at least, but there's fuck all we can do about it, and nothing meaningful to be achieved without major investment.
Moaning about 4-4-2 or 4-5-1, substitutions, negativity, blah blah blah, is just not relevant when the core issue is the fact that English football has been shafted for the past ten years, and us along with it. I hate what Sky have done to our game and to my team.
31 Posted 11/05/2011 at 23:27:19
32 Posted 11/05/2011 at 23:16:42
Most fans are casual. Those departing will come back once we are challenging for the Trophy. Look at Man Utd.
20 years ago, there wasn't 10s of millions around the world wondering how Man Utd was doing while some Northern England millions were definitely wondering how soon that club would dump the Scots failure Ferguson.
Then came Cantona.
We're a "Cantona" away to challenging and those insisting they're done with EFC will be be back when we make the final move up.
Next season I think.
33 Posted 11/05/2011 at 23:53:13
Far be it from me to defend the Mancs but, since the Busby Babes, Munich and the "phoenix from the ashes" rise of Best, Law and Charlton, culminating in them being the first English club to win the European Cup ? the Cantona arrival was but a cherry on a mountainous cake formed many years ago.
34 Posted 12/05/2011 at 00:40:58
I travel from Northern Ireland to every home game and I couldn't live without Everton. I'm 23 and, ever since my dad took me when I was 3 years old, I have been hooked on the Everton blood. As the saying goes, once it's in your blood it's there forever.
I'm as frustrated as the majority of our fans on how we are being run and where the club is going, maybe Doddy apart we all feel Kenwright has to go... not necessarily for some sugar daddy, but for someone with business nous and acumen, with a plan and strategy.
Something has to happen and will I feel this summer, whether it's to be a takeover or Moyes walking, I feel there will be a major development at Goodison in the next 3 months. COYB!!
35 Posted 12/05/2011 at 01:29:56
Think I'll go and burn me club flags and scarves in protest, and start watching Accrington Stanley instead.
36 Posted 12/05/2011 at 01:14:06
Step 1: Stop posting on Everton websites...
37 Posted 12/05/2011 at 02:39:54
See you back here when we challenge again.
38 Posted 12/05/2011 at 03:59:23
39 Posted 12/05/2011 at 04:30:39
40 Posted 12/05/2011 at 05:31:36
Well they have dominated my Saturdays (or whatever day it is we play on now) for the last 45 years. Can't imagine what I would do without Everton, Good, bad or boring.
But apart from that, What has Everton ever done for us?
41 Posted 12/05/2011 at 06:45:02
Given us years of bad Saturdays,relegation battles and embarrassing failures, but WHEN we win the FA Cup again it will make it all worth it and I bet when we get to Wembley again you will be fighting for your ticket then not giving it away and that next Wembley takes only four wins remember, we will be back sooner than you think our history proves that even when we have been shite.
Come next August I will be refreshed and excited like a school kid waiting for that first home game you enjoy your shopping.
42 Posted 12/05/2011 at 08:14:04
43 Posted 12/05/2011 at 08:12:26
Real fans stick with the club and unless you have fiscal issues or live miles away then stop moaning. Fans walk away every year and I for one think it's not a problem as the walk-up market ticket is more expensive, thus meaning more income for EFC, so have a good time watching Saints but I would prefer Wigan myself!
Seriously it?s not BK that is driving you away, it?s the modern game, along with its high wages and greedy institution. BK and EFC are victims of the modern game ? we just don?t have glamour or the commercial product to become a major player any longer and the board do have to be held to task but, if you look at the product, EFC is just not viable.
We as fans love our club and what we are but outside the fan base we have very little appeal and I?m afraid that?s the real issue. I travel 500 miles round trip to GP and it cost a lot to stay a STH but I stick with it, I just wish I lived a bit closer these days so I could enjoy it more ? you don?t know how lucky you are!! COYB
44 Posted 12/05/2011 at 08:15:25
Disclaimer; I will not accept getting rid of Johnson, BK was on the board when he arrived, and Johnson sold up for his own financial reasons. Bill didn't force him out, he just took advantage.
WHAT HAS KENWRIGHT DONE FOR US??
45 Posted 12/05/2011 at 08:33:30
Catch them early or lose them.
46 Posted 12/05/2011 at 09:07:48
Why do posters consistently feel the need to tell others that they will not be renewing etc.
This is an Everton website about football, what self-importance to believe we want to know or even care if you are not going again. Do it within another discussion post but believe it when I say, pretty much no-one cares if you stay or go to a game, so there is no need for a new post just about you. No-one on here knows you and, with respect, cares if you leave.
47 Posted 12/05/2011 at 09:31:06
Funnily enough I was just having the same conversation with a fellow Bluenose at work. It's not EFC that's screwed, it's football.
48 Posted 12/05/2011 at 09:38:42
Are you angling for a moderators job, as you seem to have enough time on your hands to snipe at other posters on here throughout the day? Michael do you have any vacancies for Tony 'J' ? Supersupporter?
49 Posted 12/05/2011 at 09:43:05
That's a tad harsh, the lad is obviously frustrated and wants to share it with fellow Evertonians.
I've said similar things myself hundreds of times, but a bit of banter, and a good dose of Evertonianism from my mates, always puts me back on track.
Steve, keep the faith, Kenwright can't go on for ever... can he? Shhhiiiit... what if he does a Doug Ellis and stays until he's 90???
See you at Glorious Goodison next season.
50 Posted 12/05/2011 at 09:27:32
I thought being an Evertonian was personified by supporting them through thick and thin. I fully understand the frustrations ? God knows I have felt them too most of my life as a Blue ? but withdrawing your support just compounds the situation and puts a greater burden on the rest of us left behind. I am no fan of our heirarchy but they are what they are and we cannot complain about their 'shoestring budgets' when we are contributing to the chopping shorter of the laces each season!
I am sorry but if you want glory and an easy ride to supporting success, by all means do as you suggest. Go and support the Saints ? even Man Utd or City or whomever you choose. I don't want to be associated with fair-weather supporters or glory hunters. Personally, I prefer to do all I can to encourage others to feel the passion I feel for this club and recruit, recruit, recruit. Not abandon faith all ye who enter here!
I fully understand your frustrations but have no respect for your intended desertion. Goodbye and good luck but please do not think I would welcome someone like you back with open arms if we ever do find the glory days again.
51 Posted 12/05/2011 at 10:07:59
I don't have the self-importance gene to express my points by starting a new thread, never have and never will.
What's the point of your post? What's the daft comments about me for? If you don't give a "fuck" why does your post seem so confrontational and angry? Why respond?
I post on here a lot because I can, simple really.
I learned a long time ago to not get worked up about what people I will never meet think about me. Let them swear and abuse, I will reply with a reasoned response (unless I am drunk) or with sarcasm, because I am a sarcastic person, truth be told.
Are you looking for a moderators job? You wouldn't be very good because in one breath you champion Steve's free speech but in the next you seem to want to censor mine.
52 Posted 12/05/2011 at 10:34:30
It looks like Billy Liar is going to keep on with his huge list of mistakes and still have the backing of a huge amount of supporters because he is a blue. The club is so incompetent we can not even put a building in the car park by all accounts. This summer will be another let down when it comes to transfer activity and some of us are simply fed with the whole thing. So my response was not angry or confrontational, I'll leave that to you when you've had a drink.
53 Posted 12/05/2011 at 10:37:41
Sorry mate but Tony #46 and Adam #38 are bang on the money.
Football fans come and go, if everyone who became a matchgoer in their childhood or youth remained matchgoers for the rest of their lives, they couldn't build a stadium big enough.
In the past, if people didn't feel they were getting value or the the magic had worn off, they simply stopped going.
Why all of a sudden do people feel the need to announce it to the world, why feel the need to give a reason or an excuse? Are they looking for somebody to talk them down?
It won't happen, mate: if they are that unhappy they are best left to jump. I just wish they would do it quietly.
Most fans support the club, not the chairman or the manager... and, give or take a few hundred, Everton's average attendance next season will be pretty much the same as this season.
54 Posted 12/05/2011 at 10:54:17
With Steven (4). Couldn't care less fella. Enjoy watching the egg. I'm going to Craven Cottage tomorrow to watch us win the Under 18's.
55 Posted 12/05/2011 at 11:15:48
Like I said above I don't think Steve's really going anyway, he's just pissed off. And if he DOES go somewhere, it's not like there'll be an empty seat in Goodison, is it? Surely, even in this age of glory-hunting vapidheads and non-attending armchair fans (like me) there will be a blue arse ready to sit in his chair?
56 Posted 12/05/2011 at 11:23:38
57 Posted 12/05/2011 at 11:39:54
I want him gone as much as the sweary heads but I still also want to go to the game and watch the togger.
58 Posted 12/05/2011 at 12:52:27
59 Posted 12/05/2011 at 13:12:07
60 Posted 12/05/2011 at 16:57:24
61 Posted 12/05/2011 at 17:10:38
Feckin golf? Enough said!
62 Posted 12/05/2011 at 22:12:37
Think i've captured the general theme... anyone else fucked off with this one yet?
63 Posted 12/05/2011 at 23:54:59
The way we have conducted ourselves in the transfer market is utterly shambolic and extremely disheartening for everyone concerned, so I can fully understand people giving up. Also the media does us no favours whatsoever by giving the impression that we are always 'punching above our weight' like we are fucking Wigan or something and not one of the most sucessful clubs in English football.
64 Posted 13/05/2011 at 08:39:47
65 Posted 13/05/2011 at 13:14:19
66 Posted 13/05/2011 at 14:24:31
You`ve just kicked the weekend off.
67 Posted 13/05/2011 at 22:42:41
?7th is like winning the Champions League? You couldn?t make it up. You would think he was managing Charlton. As a fourth generation Evertonian, it is in my blood to follow the Blues, and I will for life but there is something rotten to the core, from top bottom at Everton which will hinder our progress for a very long time, which previous generations would not have accepted.
All these Kenwright haters need to get a grip, he is not perfect but at the end of the day: you lot voted for Kirkby, like numpties & he is far better than Johnson ever was. Moyes has been backed to the hilt and has not over-achieved because the group of teams we?re in & around we have outspent over the years such as Notlob, Fulham.
68 Posted 14/05/2011 at 13:04:34
Don't let the truth get in the way though eh lad?
69 Posted 14/05/2011 at 17:16:14
"Don't let the truth get in the way though eh lad?" ? you saing he didn't say it? Are you mad? Hardly made up-irrespective of the situation or context he tries to put it in.
I belive the points gap from the top 6 to the bottom 3 was a mere 6 points at Christmas as well ? hardly makes any sense to compare it to winning the Champions League. I am pretty much certain you would be unable to fathom that & just go along with it.
Good result for the Moyesiah today as well... I was only glad I did not have to listen to the idiot speak. Shame I read your post though.
70 Posted 15/05/2011 at 13:13:06
Unfortunately I have read your post too, misleading as it was and don't worry I won't respond again. Who knows? You may just take random words from my post and suggest I said and meant something I didn't
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