I think the word bollocks sums it up. Allegedly Moyes is refusing to talk after the game because he's so incensed about the refereeing decisions? - including talking to the Official website!!! (inc. Everton TV!!!)
Someone needs to tell Moyes football is , at the end of the day, meant to be ENTERTAINMENT. This means catering to the punters who turn out, listen, watch or log on. Mind you his team selection today shows how highly he rates entertaining the punters.
Colin O'Keeffe, Posted 14/05/2011 at 22:03:55
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1 Posted 15/05/2011 at 03:54:42
2 Posted 15/05/2011 at 03:57:25
I heard Bily's sending off was a joke but were other decisions that bad???
3 Posted 15/05/2011 at 06:33:46
4 Posted 15/05/2011 at 08:45:35
A striker who hadn't scored all season against such a shit defence and players all over the place again despite him having seen a different line-up take the game to Man Shitty last week. Mind-numbing, he needs to fucking man up and face the music, we were shite and that was his line, his tactics, his team.
5 Posted 15/05/2011 at 08:43:46
No words could justify our starting line-up selections for the last two games.
6 Posted 15/05/2011 at 09:37:16
7 Posted 15/05/2011 at 09:47:11
8 Posted 15/05/2011 at 10:02:19
9 Posted 15/05/2011 at 10:20:39
If ever there was a day to give Gueye a chance, it was yesterday... yet he plays with seven defenders and a lad on his own up front who has not scored for 18 months ? and the media tells us he is too good a manager for us.
10 Posted 15/05/2011 at 10:27:12
Up untill then, we were controlling it without really going anywhere. Bily missed a sitter. We were fucking shite though, the entire back four were cack, Baines included.
11 Posted 15/05/2011 at 10:34:51
12 Posted 15/05/2011 at 11:07:46
We need someone extraordinary to deal with the disparity of the new monied armies and Moyes is not that man: it's not his fault ? he is what he is and when he goes to Villa I'll remember fondly the progress culminating in Champions League qualification and forget the rest ? he deserves that.
But he's several seasons past his Everton sell-by date and I cringe when his despairing visage and uninspiring opinion appears in the media and can't help thinking how many players think the same.
13 Posted 15/05/2011 at 11:31:40
14 Posted 15/05/2011 at 11:23:03
Watching our defence in the build-up to the goal, was nothing less than suicidal. One reporter described Distin as having a bottle of San Miguel in one hand, and trying to put his flip flops on with the other!
He was not alone in the dire performance, we had no idea up front, and although we created a couple of chances, we never really threatened.
And so to the last game of what has been a very disappointing season. If rumour has it, there will a some players leaving, I just hope that whoever we can afford, are better than what we have at present. But thats what being a Evertonian is all about ? HOPING!
15 Posted 15/05/2011 at 12:04:39
16 Posted 15/05/2011 at 12:05:52
For all Beckford's flaws, he can score goals and he should have been starting every game till the season ends but Moyes got all stubborn at Wolves with him. Well, sorry, Davey ? a player can run all day for you, but we prefer goals.
17 Posted 15/05/2011 at 12:12:54
18 Posted 15/05/2011 at 12:31:48
Compare that with SAF: yesterday they needed a point to win the title, at 1-1 he kept fdour attackers high up the field and gambled that Blackburn wouldn't throw men forward in case they got hit on the break and lost a precious point.
IMO, managers fall into two categories; cavaliers and roundheads. SAF, ?Arry, Guadiola etc are cavaliers, while Moyes, the special one, Mancini etc are roundheads. Both types can play winning football but, as Mancini and Mourinho have proved, just because they?ve got access to oodles of Wonga doesn?t make them change their footballing philosophy.
19 Posted 15/05/2011 at 12:38:29
Having said that, there's very little chance of defending him yesterday when he picked seven defenders in a starting XI.
I would disagree with one of Colin's premisses though. Sport is not 'meant to be entertainment'. Sport is sport, not entertainment, not business and not any of the other things people compare it to. Football takes place regardless of whether or not anyone is watching it, and it wasn't invented in order to entertainment, it was invented as a sporting contest. The fact that people often find it entertaining is a secondary consideration, and the entertainment derives from the fact that teams try to win using whatever means or tactics they see fit. Therefore praising one team or condemning another as being more or less 'entertaining' is to fundamentally misunderstand football. Its true entertainment value derives naturally through competition, not through a specific desire to entertain.
20 Posted 15/05/2011 at 12:49:23
21 Posted 15/05/2011 at 12:36:56
In this case, yesterday, the football laws and their interpretation, and the subsequent decision to keep private the ensuing discussion of, take priority over the 'need' to share this with the press.
Sorry, that's not quick at all. I tried!
22 Posted 15/05/2011 at 12:57:09
I have been an Everton fan all my life, and supported Moyes, but I can't get my head round this one at all. Anichebe HASN'T SCORED all season!!! He has hardly ever scored in the top flight, with hours and hours of chances and playing time.
The player really aggravates me, especially when he falls over, and puts his hands on his head. Just his constant moaning and body language and expressions. Whether he is good in training is irrelevant; if you are a striker and can't score goals under pressure then you are not a Premier League player.
I feel so angry about this because we have someone on the bench who had the greatest return of goals for minutes on the pitch in the Premier League. PLEASE CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN!!!
23 Posted 15/05/2011 at 13:00:19
24 Posted 15/05/2011 at 13:07:46
Nope ? got me there Simon. Shop window is the only word that comes to mind... but he keeps on losing value with each performance.
25 Posted 15/05/2011 at 13:31:52
We've not had the argument of players at his disposal etc on this thread but he does in Gueye and Vellios and Beckford to at least offer a more attacking formation. I'd be happier going down battling than to have as many useless shots and shown up by a piss-poor defensive side.
26 Posted 15/05/2011 at 14:49:32
Moyes as the Everton manager has a responsibility to communicate to the fans, his actions after the WBA game show a complete lack of respect to the Everton faithful. Our latest loss to WBA needs an explanation from the manager or at least his views on the game, if Moyes blames the referee for yesterday, who was at fault when we lost 4-1 at home to the mighty WBA? It surely can?t have been the Moyesiah?s fault...
27 Posted 15/05/2011 at 15:06:29
We won, played good football and got the place rocking.
Unbelivable team selection. More and more players will be thinking no future here. We are off.
28 Posted 15/05/2011 at 15:15:20
I just think Moyes's weak points throughout his career have been strikers. He always gets the best out of defenders and midfield, but can't seem to tactically get the best out of, or even know his best strikers.
He goes on about work rate, but I think he is completely wrong on that point. Too many games especially early this season we ran and worked and came away with nothing.
29 Posted 15/05/2011 at 16:03:12
When I watch European games, I see nothing as low as the standard I see here every week. When you watch the Premier League on TV, you see at least one match-changing decision almost every game based on the incompetence and arrogance of the officials.
They can't even get the basics right. They pace a wall back ten metres, turn around and everyone shuffles forward. Goalkeepers one or two paces off their line when penalties are taken. Throw-ins from the wrong place (ten yards in some cases). Defenders wrestling forwards from corners. Goals given when the ball has not crossed the line, 2 minutes injury time when six subs have been used etc, etc, etc.
All we get are excuses from the media, excuses from the FA. Nobody at the weak and corrupt FA does anything. .
30 Posted 15/05/2011 at 21:15:10
His pathetic tactics in the FA Cup Final, his defensive tactics v Wigan at home... He has to go this season, along with BK. I think he's a good coach but I worry about the effect he'll leave on the club after he's left.
31 Posted 15/05/2011 at 22:29:01
32 Posted 15/05/2011 at 23:48:30
Moyes and the club have just tied him down to a new contract and in my opinion I think they are now putting him in the shop window to showcase his talents ? or lack of... depending on how you see him. Come the end of the season, I can see him being sold to the highest bidder.
I for one would accept anything for him and this is why I think he has had an extended run in the team.
33 Posted 15/05/2011 at 23:49:28
And this bit: "I can see him being sold to the highest bidder" even gave me laff. Thanks for that.
34 Posted 16/05/2011 at 15:27:45
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