My mate together with 20 other fans was lucky enough to win a days training with the first team at Man City as part of celebrating their FA Cup triumph. He got to meet and spend time with some of the first team, the manager and members of the coaching staff. They included:?
- Roberto Mancini (Manager)
- Massimo Marratti (Celebrated Italian goalkeeping coach)
- Brian Kidd (Tactical, defensive coach)
- David Platt (First team coach)
- Atillio Lombardo (former Juventus superstar, now attacking technical coach)
- Ivan Carminatti (Highly rated Italian fitness coach)
Now, whatever your opinion of the above, one thing for sure is they know how to play football.
Interesting that Man City has a very cultured back room staff. This is an area where we are lacking, we have a defensive manager and a very workman like coaching team.
Sure, Man City have money but coaching isn't about money ? it's about imposing your footballing ethos on your first team.
Rather than new signings this season, how about new technical/cultured coaching staff added to the backroom to give us a plan fucking B???
Daniel Johnson, Posted 24/05/2011 at 18:37:02
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1 Posted 24/05/2011 at 18:50:04
I don't see the point in using their set-up to attack ours.
For me, we need to buy more attack-minded player's whose first thought is to play forward, opposed to player's who are naturally combative or hardworking.
2 Posted 24/05/2011 at 19:04:01
3 Posted 24/05/2011 at 18:57:13
They know how to play football? They must have been doing it when I wasnt looking.
World class players like Tevez and Silva may illuminate Eastlands from time to time but if the negative shite City regularly play is the best this crew can do with one of the most expensive squads ever assembled, let them stay at Eastlands.
Perhaps if this dazzling array of talent ever send a team out to beat the much maligned Moyes sides, we might stop laughing
BTW Daniel, what were the top prizes in this competition like?
4 Posted 24/05/2011 at 19:23:24
Appparently the "lucky few" were amazed they spent nearly 4 hrs on the training pitch doing various training drills with the different coaches and had a few kick-abouts with the players. Then they all had pictures taken and were each presented with a portfolio of action shots of themesleves taking part in training (taken by a pro sports photographer) which, even I admit, looked really impressive.
5 Posted 24/05/2011 at 19:31:44
Man City??? The most boring workman like team in the Premier League?
Man City??? Who the press slam for their over defensive style of play?
That's so funny.
6 Posted 24/05/2011 at 19:34:49
Man City play like a David Moyes team and they have now proven it works by cracking the Top 4.
7 Posted 24/05/2011 at 19:34:07
Whilst I wouldn't look to Citeh for guidance as I think, with the money spent and players available, they should be closer to Manure than they are, I would be interested in a European coach for fresh ideas and, if nothing else, an ear to the ground for emerging talent in their homeland.
8 Posted 24/05/2011 at 19:59:07
Also where you played does not neccesarily mean that's the only position you coach. A good football brain mean's you know how positions work and the game as a whole.
The fact is the coaches we have may be the absolute best in the business, but it's the manager who deems the style of play we use. We all know this style inside out because we watch it week-in, week-out.
Watching us I always feel the more creative players are playing within themselves. Whether this is down to them, instructions from the manager or an indirect result of his nature,language and demeanour leading up to the game is hard to say.
9 Posted 24/05/2011 at 20:12:52
10 Posted 24/05/2011 at 20:14:37
11 Posted 24/05/2011 at 20:42:48
12 Posted 24/05/2011 at 21:30:38
13 Posted 24/05/2011 at 22:02:31
14 Posted 24/05/2011 at 22:04:46
W D Goal Dif PtsDoes that teach you somefink?
City 21 8 27 71
Everton 13 15 6 54
15 Posted 24/05/2011 at 22:44:32
16 Posted 25/05/2011 at 01:31:17
17 Posted 25/05/2011 at 02:03:32
No I have not been down to Finch Farm to watch the coaches, and they might be the best in the business. I doubt it, but they might be.
I'm not convinced with the way Everton attack and pass, so the suggestion that we might need to look at some new attacking/passing coaches could well be valid.
Completely unrelated, but I am fucking tired of Sir Alex. Can he just piss off and retire already??
18 Posted 25/05/2011 at 09:36:12
Obvious point that seems to be missed - these are all Mancini's mates, largely from his Sampdoria playing days.
Jobs for the boys doesn't mean anything in terms of style.
19 Posted 25/05/2011 at 09:37:47
20 Posted 25/05/2011 at 10:51:34
21 Posted 25/05/2011 at 11:56:22
22 Posted 25/05/2011 at 12:01:38
23 Posted 25/05/2011 at 12:21:20
But teh agin so will Moyes we have P Neville and David Weir wating in the wings to eventuallu join the existing coaching staff of:
We have a complete defensive coachings et up all based on former defenders and a mini match day yes man (round).
All I'm saying is lets get some people in who know how to pass and attack, to counter act the dour negative safety first cancer which always runs through our starting 11.
24 Posted 25/05/2011 at 12:24:46
25 Posted 25/05/2011 at 12:37:08
A friend of mine who managed a couple of sides asked me what was the secret to a successful team.
My reply was straightforward.
"There is no secret to a successful team it just needs to have good players".
Over 40 years my opinion hasnt changed.
Despite the attempts of coaches to stereotype players good players play there own game and stand out.
Do you honestly think Brian Kidd could coach anything into these players.
Coaches need to concentrate on the team tactics and effectiveness rather than individuals.
Sorry to say Daniel but yet another failed attempt to discredit Moyes.
26 Posted 25/05/2011 at 12:54:59
I think Moyes needs to change his outlook more than his staff.
Steve Round was supposed to be one of the best attacking coaches and tacticians in England.
27 Posted 25/05/2011 at 13:30:27
28 Posted 25/05/2011 at 14:06:15
29 Posted 25/05/2011 at 14:11:52
30 Posted 25/05/2011 at 16:47:09
I wouldn't mind some of Cities money or even a couple of players but the backroom staff and manager no thanks, Hughes would have done just as much imo.
31 Posted 25/05/2011 at 16:53:52
I'm sorry mate, but how they hell do you know what these former players are like as coaches? And how can you compare them to Steve Round and colleagues? Do you study the coaching styles of all of these people? If not are you just basing your reputations on what they were like as players? Doesn't work like that.
32 Posted 25/05/2011 at 17:13:53
33 Posted 25/05/2011 at 18:10:14
34 Posted 25/05/2011 at 18:37:14
35 Posted 25/05/2011 at 20:38:34
36 Posted 25/05/2011 at 20:35:43
Dick (14) it probably teaches you that City spent £47m on Tevez, £28m on Dzeko; £24m on Balotelli for starters, while we have Saha, Beckford, Anichebe, Vaughan (all free) plus Yakubu- out on loan. Hard to play effective attacking football when you can barely rub together one fit, decent striker
37 Posted 26/05/2011 at 14:53:59
If Jay's theory was right Boro would've survived that season, as would West Ham this, and Bayern Munich wouldn't have finished 3rd in the German league either.
38 Posted 27/05/2011 at 02:55:19
What Moyes is (should be) doing is providing a solid platform and backbone to which the creative players can operate. Risk management against the fast break for example. That's why Carsley was should an important Moyes player, and equally our lone striker up front can only be solved with money.
39 Posted 27/05/2011 at 11:03:43
Everton scored 51, with basically a makeshift set of strikers, none of them costing a penny, with 3 penalties.
Man City have, at a conservative estimate (Tevez - £40m, Dzeko - £30m, Balottelli - £30m, Jo - £18m, Adebayor - £25m) £150m worth of strikers. Whoever is coaching these guys on how to score goals needs to collect his cards from Mr Mancini as they have not got a fucking clue.
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