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Have just seen that Man ure got just over £60M for winning the league with The Hammers picking up a lil' over £40M for comming bottom of the pile. This in turn worked out that every place the team finished higher was worth £0.75M.

Add on the TV money which is worth £0.425M per game with a minimum of 10 games per club up to a maximum of 26 and you start to see why as a team you need to be in the Premier League. And, just to rub salt into the wounds of those clubs we lost this year, the TV money is going up again for the next 3 years!!!

Simon Smith, Cambridgeshire     Posted 26/05/2011 at 13:03:01

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Chris Keightley
1   Posted 26/05/2011 at 14:28:24

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Basically we are existing from the TV money ? waiting for it to come through in order to balance the books... great!!

If we have a Commercial Director, he should be sacked on the spot. I hear more commercial opportunitys discussed on here, than any that are leaked from Goodison ? it's a fucking shambles. I refer to zero merchandise at Liverpool Airport, no shirts at major UK retailers ? certainly none down south; poor pre-season preparations, with potential money spinning Mini tournaments missed...

Rant over!!!

Joe Green
2   Posted 26/05/2011 at 14:43:51

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And just remember that virtually all the millions that comes in (from TV, tickets, whatever) ... goes out in players wages ! Not enough sticks within the clubs to build better amenities.
James Martin
3   Posted 26/05/2011 at 15:11:11

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Newcastle ended up with more TV money than we did this year. Liverpool meanwhile ended up wtih substantially more than us and more than Tottenham, Man City and Arsenal. Its a win win for teams like Liverpool and Newcastle, regardless of league position the tv companies like to watch them win and they like to watch them lose too hence they get more televised games than others.
Martin Graves
4   Posted 26/05/2011 at 15:59:31

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It was my understanding that the reason you dont see efc merchandise anywhere is because, rightly or wrongly, the club signed a 10th year exclusivity deal with online retailer moyes, the first 3 of which are with le coq sportif. We did the same in that terrible jjb deal.
Matt Bone
5   Posted 26/05/2011 at 16:16:47

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Everton have signed a deal with sports retailers Kitbag to market the club's merchandise worldwide.

The agreement, is for 10 years and will see Kitbag take responsibility for high street shopping, mail order and the club's online store.
Chris Keightley
6   Posted 26/05/2011 at 17:03:06

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Matt, that's great ? why do I have to ring my dad in Rochdale in order to get a shirt??? Try getting any shirt down south... as for third and away tops... no chance!! The only time I remember being able to get a shirt was the year we finished fourth. The marketing department at Goodison must be in the fucking broom cupboard along with the budget papers and a dozen wigs from one of Kenwright's stage shows.
Steve Cotton
7   Posted 26/05/2011 at 17:34:50

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If you really want to feel that we are the poor relation then go and look at the kitbag main page kitbag.com. They list all the main teams shirts and don't even have any of our post-1985 kits for sale???

We are showing 5 available old kits; however, the RS have over 214 available kits to buy, names on backs etc.

We look like an afterthought. Someone in our club should be shot for this!!!

Steve David
8   Posted 26/05/2011 at 18:02:39

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There are no missed commercial opportunities is there? What about the friendly against Bury on July 15th that will be a start of something big
David Booth
9   Posted 26/05/2011 at 18:21:55

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Viva la revolution!

Can't wait for the TV bubble to burst - as it surely will - and the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

Perhaps then we'll get back to a game driven by the traditional values of fair competition and winning something - as opposed to how much a particular cup, or league placing is 'worth'.

This obsession we have developed for the money equation is killing the game for me.
Brian Waring
10   Posted 26/05/2011 at 19:03:51

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David, without all the Sky money etc coming in, we would be in shit street big time.
Joe McMahon
11   Posted 26/05/2011 at 19:31:13

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I have often cringed when we have been on Sky, yes there has been the odd good performance against Liverpool, but sadly West Ham, and Bolton away just gives other football fans the opportunity to slag boring tactics. Even at City away we defended like hell.

Sadly Liverpool and Newcastle bring in bigger TV audiences. I doubt City would have been on Sky so many times if still at Main Rd etc. I really do believe that the Kenwright regime has done this once great club good n propper. We have stood still at best during his reign, gone backwards in terms of stadium and promotion of EFC. I wonder if there's a Boys Pen in Hell?
Joe McMahon
12   Posted 26/05/2011 at 19:37:41

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Sorry for the rant guys, it's just.... Errrr... Kenwright!
Frank McGregor
13   Posted 26/05/2011 at 21:25:31

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It is my understanding that Everton's revenue from the TV rights this season was 49.6 Million pounds with the Top six earning more than Everton.Man United earned 60 Million down to Liverpool who earned 55 Million is this correct..
Gavin Ramejkis
14   Posted 26/05/2011 at 22:07:12

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Chris #1 - the club has already borrowed this season against next season's Sky money they were that skint

David #9 coats for goalposts and terraces full of flat caps has long gone, the Sky money is the only way to pay for these overpaid tarts that claim to be professional players these days, the catch 22 being if you don't have them you ain't going to stay in the league and thus lose the Sky money

Joe #11 it's been said on older threads that we don't play exciting football enough these days to command regular viewers besides the faithful and the perennial Sky darlings have the media by the balls so the sheeple get to watch those and be told they are the finest example of football in the world. A perfect example of this was granny shaggers overhead kick getting MoTD goal of the season, watch it again and realise it shows piss poor defenders standing off him, it shows it coming off his shin and could have gone fucking anywhere, a fluke goal but a media darling so nailed on for the win.
Mike Allison
15   Posted 26/05/2011 at 22:16:55

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You can buy the shirts on-line from the club. Pretty easy really.
Tony J Williams
16   Posted 26/05/2011 at 22:36:00

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Chris 6 - Locality has nothing to do with getting a shirt. Go to either the official site or kitbag and they will deliver it to your front door.
Frank McGregor
17   Posted 26/05/2011 at 22:56:44

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Based on league final placing I believe Everton will receive £49.6 Million compared to the top placing Man United £60 Million and down to Liverpool who I believe received £55 Million.
Andy Kay
18   Posted 26/05/2011 at 23:08:24

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Mike #14, Tony #15 ? Chris's point is a valid one. I get my shirts online as you said but, since moving to Australia where Tim Cahill is on everything from Weetabix boxes to Sony TVs, you still can't buy an Everton shirt in any of the sports shops that are full of RS, United and Chelsea kits. Rebel Sports has even got Blackburn kits for sale with Emerton on the back ffs.

In Airports worldwide you can buy Barcalona kits in the Nike shop but also Atletico Madrid shirts despite having more famous media grabbing city neighbours. In the adidas shops in outlet stores from The States to New Zealand, Stoke City shirts are sat next to the AC Milan and Bayern Munich kits!

We're missing a trick big time in getting noticed, not just over here but worldwide. For a team that has had Cahill, Pienaar and Donavan in a blue shirt in the past 2 years, it's a disgrace.

We've been underselling Everton since the days of Shoot and Match magazine only having Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal and Spurs products for sale on its pages. Remember the Greavsie's Six of the Best videos of the 80s? A 70s version was available for the above teams but not Everton? 20 years later we get a "Big Match" DVD with 70s classic games but not 20 years earlier.

Who makes those decisions and who complains about it when we're not included? Stuff like this has been happening for decades and yet there doesn't seem to be anyone up in arms about it. Saying it's easy to buy shirts online is not going raise the profile of one of the world's oldest and greatest football clubs ever known; investment will always end up across the park and down the East Lancs and M1.

Dick Fearon
19   Posted 27/05/2011 at 01:46:25

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How is it that here in Oz all Evertons league games are live on SKY the same goes for all other prem teams.
Andy Kay
20   Posted 27/05/2011 at 02:58:48

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Dick, it's just the deal Fox Sports have done with Premier League. All 360 odd games were supposed to be on live but only 6 games were on the last day of the season. Guess what was one of the games to miss out? Everton v Chelsea.
Richard Dodd
21   Posted 27/05/2011 at 08:43:25

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Can`t disagree that "without the Sky money, we would be in shit`s creek"... But so would EVERY club ? including Man Utd!
Tony J Williams
22   Posted 27/05/2011 at 08:55:50

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Andy, yes the commercial and advertisement issue is correct but not the difficulty in getting the shirt. God knows why he has to get his arl fella to get a shirt, unless he doesn't want to pay for the p&p.
Chris Keightley
23   Posted 27/05/2011 at 10:22:30

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Tony ? you make a valid point. Yes, I could go online... but my dad works in Liverpool so its easier and does save on P&P

What I'm trying to get across is that I would love to walk into Colchester (where I work) on my lunch break, and buy one off the shelf!!

Lee McIntosh
24   Posted 27/05/2011 at 15:07:33

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@Tony ? so does that mean to get myself a shirt I have to try on a RS or Manure shirt just to work out what size I prefer or what fits best? These should be in shops...

I went to visit my brother in Spain the other week, where most of the people I met that live their are Everton fans and not a single shop had an Everton shirt, but they had Birmingham!!!! Point being, I don't want to buy mail order, I want to buy in a shop...

Mike Berry
25   Posted 27/05/2011 at 18:46:21

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Stop paying Sky Sports Subs and the rest of the satellite-TV stations. Then the whole edifice will come tumbling down.

Personally I'd welcome it. I have lost count of the number of times I've met RS fans who have never been to Old Trafford, yet have seen every game.

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