According to the News of the World and MirrorFootball.co.uk, Moyes is signing Jay Bothroyd on a free transfer after the striker was released by Cardiff following their failure to secure promotion. Jay Bothroyd played for England once during the last season and scored 20 goals for Cardiff. Apparently, Neil Lennon at Celtic wanted to sign him, but the 29-year old player wants to come to Everton.
I do not know how to react to this, but the more we sign those players, the higher are our chances that one will become a golden boot for us. I think it can be a good signing. Ba at West Ham and Odemwingie at West Brom were also unknown before they shone on the grand stage. Perhaps Jay Bothroyd will be along the same lines...
Sur Jo, Posted 29/05/2011 at 02:58:39
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1 Posted 29/05/2011 at 15:45:38
Last season we had a free transfer from League One. This season it looks like we are getting a free transfer from the Championship.
What a shame Moyes cannot just identify an International class striker and be given £15M - £20M to sign him.
2 Posted 29/05/2011 at 15:52:32
3 Posted 29/05/2011 at 15:48:49
Heard a rumour again about Owen; if true, it would have to be pay-as-you-play.
4 Posted 29/05/2011 at 16:07:23
5 Posted 29/05/2011 at 16:17:46
6 Posted 29/05/2011 at 16:14:22
Don't go thinking Anichebe is out of the starting 11 just yet though guys, Bothroyd appears to be a similar style player to Beckford, lots of pace, eye for goal, but doesn't hold the ball up or play a physical game challenging for headers. He is not a lone striker, so who do you think he will partner? Vic of course.
My hope is Vellios gets a run and proves himself. He's a big strong lad, so hopefully he can work out to be a decent partner for Beckford/Bothroyd, as Anichebe just doesn't cut it for me.
7 Posted 29/05/2011 at 16:42:35
I'd take him, I mean, he was in the England squad earlier in the season. For a free and hopefully we can buy another striker to replace Vaughan and Yakubu. Only the end of the world if that's all we sign.
8 Posted 29/05/2011 at 16:37:31
9 Posted 29/05/2011 at 17:01:38
10 Posted 29/05/2011 at 17:05:47
11 Posted 29/05/2011 at 16:59:09
1. With Vaughan out and the Yak on his way too, we need more cover up front to supplement Beckford, Saha, Vellios and Anichebe (although ideally it'll just be the first 3 and we can roll big Vic on to someone else too).
2. We clearly don't have big cash to splash, at least until we sell on (which is obviously uncertain into when, who and how much) or the Sky money clears (August), low fees or free transfers are going to be our only options in the short term.
3. Like Cahill, Beckford (and even Jags), he has a good track record outside the premiership and is less likely to be a Bertie big bollocks in either attitude or wage demands. This is his last shot to make it at the top level so he should be keen to give it his all.
4. Our side has always been desperately short of pace, Bothroyd seems to have it, as well as an eye for goal.
5. As with Vaughan, it's a sign of intent to get business done early, which is vital if we're to avoid our usual terrible start.
Ultimately, this is unlikely to make any difference to whether we sign a £10M+ player ? that'll be down to budget coming elsewhere, but I for one would rather that we had a plan in place just in case those silly offers for Rodwell, Felliani, et al don't materialise.
So I say let's get this out of the way and try and repeat the feat by clearing out Yobo/Yak and getting in a winger ? Seb Larsson would do me fine.
12 Posted 29/05/2011 at 17:22:38
13 Posted 29/05/2011 at 18:05:48
14 Posted 29/05/2011 at 18:06:13
15 Posted 29/05/2011 at 18:10:31
16 Posted 29/05/2011 at 18:08:21
In one England squad (for a friendly??) in mid-season and not a sniff of another squad since, even with England being in dire straights striker-wise for next week's game against the mighty Switzerland!!
Championship player aged 29. Not exactly some young up-and-coming prospect.
17 Posted 29/05/2011 at 18:26:55
18 Posted 29/05/2011 at 18:32:38
19 Posted 29/05/2011 at 18:50:56
20 Posted 29/05/2011 at 19:04:24
21 Posted 29/05/2011 at 19:20:08
22 Posted 29/05/2011 at 20:04:59
Klose's visited Finch Farm twice, once with his family. Can anyone confirm this or is my mate's cousin clutching at straws? Anyway, I'm hoping we've found a rough diamond in Thomas Vellios (thanks for that one Tony, still makes me chuckle).
23 Posted 29/05/2011 at 20:18:41
I wasn't impressed when this lad bottled a collision with their goalie in a one-on-one when he was favourite and the game was in the balance.
24 Posted 29/05/2011 at 20:30:39
25 Posted 29/05/2011 at 21:02:18
And apparently the Shite were looking at him so he must be some good (or not).
26 Posted 29/05/2011 at 21:02:43
I've watched and when his attitude is right he is unplayable. If he was 25, I would really be excited by this but at 29 I doubt if he has enough time on his hands to adapt to the Premier League like Beckford... still worth a go on a free though.
27 Posted 29/05/2011 at 21:22:30
Yet again, we will be spending less than Bolton & Stoke. Makes you wonder how long this Kenwright/Moyes relationship will be with us, 10 years and counting...
28 Posted 29/05/2011 at 21:38:39
29 Posted 29/05/2011 at 22:00:23
30 Posted 29/05/2011 at 23:09:16
31 Posted 30/05/2011 at 01:16:47
Even if this is true, I think we could get him; with some good persuading, this lad could be ours.
32 Posted 30/05/2011 at 01:52:07
33 Posted 30/05/2011 at 03:40:00
34 Posted 30/05/2011 at 09:38:52
35 Posted 30/05/2011 at 09:48:27
36 Posted 30/05/2011 at 10:22:52
37 Posted 30/05/2011 at 09:10:18
38 Posted 30/05/2011 at 11:08:49
39 Posted 30/05/2011 at 12:18:52
40 Posted 30/05/2011 at 13:10:01
This last season we had too many injuries to the midfield creative players and that could have contributed to many poor results. This department needs to be strengthened immediately and Charlie Adam would be my choice but, if we are penny-pinching, then he is beyond signing for the Blues.
Saha and Cahill have been basically no-shows since January and it remains to be seen if they will be of much use as strikers next season with their injury problems. Anichebe is not the answer and perhaps a swap plus cash for someone like Odemwingie may help the striking situation.
41 Posted 30/05/2011 at 14:40:46
Seb Larrson ? Free
Nigel Reo-Coker ? Free
Jay Bothroyd ? Free
Klose ? Free
Matthew Upson ? Free
David Vaughn ? Free
Gudjohnson ? Free
Vicente ? Free
Now I know the immediate reaction is "too old, not good enough" etc but look at it this way: What Moyes excels at is getting players to play, whether they are an amazing player, or Carsley/Bent who would not make a first team elsewhere. I suggest that filling our squad with a few squad players to 'do the job' is surely more effective then spending a lot of money on a few players who might not play 'our' way.
It was only a few weeks ago we had two centre halves as our midfield. Would it not have been better with Reo-Coker and Larrson as backup? If, instead of Anichebe, we had Bothroyd? Sure we can invest the cash we will make off sales into a 'good' player? But at least bring in lads who can do a job and fill our squad out a little more.
The difference between draws and wins next season could well be a goal from a free player, a midfielder stand-in winning the game in the middle, or a centre-half who is experienced there.
42 Posted 30/05/2011 at 15:04:18
43 Posted 30/05/2011 at 14:53:12
I have seen him on a few occasions and he appears to be a moody sulking little bastard... in the play-offs he blatantly refused to move if the ball wasn't played directly to him.
I think it's a fucking disagrace and insult to our fine club that we have to trawl the lower divisions year after year in the hope we can turn up a gem. Kenwright and his fucking cronies should hang their heads in shame... Craig Mackail-Smith for fucks sake... he was playing non-league three seasons ago and he ain't no youngster.
That said, perhaps Bullshit Billy doesn't trust the manager with a shed load of cash. The last time he gave him £10 million, he spent it on the load of SHITE known as Bilyaletdinov.
I'm sorry but Jay Bothroyd, DJ Campbell, Craig Mackail-Smith etc are names that just SHOULD NOT be linked with our great club and IMO CAN NOT & WILL NOT take us forward. As previously mentioned by another poster, Bothroyd is a poor man's Beckford... if that's the best that this club can now attract, I am very saddened and truly embarrassed. Surely there are better alternatives than these types!?!
There is a lot of divided opinion about signing the likes of Owen & Barton but the truth is both are proven Premie League quality and far better than the lower division also-rans we're currently being linked with.
Personally I'd have 'em both but I accept I will be in the minority but I'm absolutely certain that, if we sign Boythroyd, Campbell, Mackail-Smith etc, in 12 months time the majority will be saying about them what they are now saying about Beckford ?quite simply JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH..!!
Finally not to say I told you so but 12 months ago I posted on here that Beckford would not be the 20-goal-a-season man we all craved... I got some stick but I TOLD YOU SO. I hope I'm not saying the same this time next year about Bothroyd etc.
KENWRIGHT & FELLOW DIRECTORS ? YOU ARE A DISGRACE AND ARE DESTROYING THIS CLUB.
44 Posted 30/05/2011 at 16:21:17
If he's not rated in the Championship, what's the chances of him doing well in a higher league?
45 Posted 30/05/2011 at 16:45:40
46 Posted 30/05/2011 at 18:16:42
We'd have Saha, Beckford, Bothroyd and Anichebe without any transfer fees being spent yet, and gaining funds from Vaughan and whatever we get for Yakubu. And having just seen Reading fail to win promotion, maybe we could scrape together some funds and get Long?
47 Posted 30/05/2011 at 18:21:05
48 Posted 30/05/2011 at 18:19:08
49 Posted 30/05/2011 at 23:13:55
50 Posted 31/05/2011 at 07:46:15
Bootrhoyd if he comes is no more than a stop gap till Hallum Hope is ready to step in 2-3 seasons time.
ps...sounds like Yakubu ain't going anywhere...greedy git!
51 Posted 31/05/2011 at 14:27:55
Both these players have been goal machines in the last couple of years and living, as close to Peterboro' as I do, I have seen just how many times CMS has found the onion bag.
With Saha again picking up knocks, JV on his way to Norwich, Tim Cahill looking a lil' tired from his trips with the soccerroos and the Yak maybe going to pastures greener, is it worth taking a punt on them both?
And Yes, before anyone tells me, I know CMS is 27 but to a 40 something he is young!
52 Posted 31/05/2011 at 16:50:03
53 Posted 01/06/2011 at 13:44:50
54 Posted 01/06/2011 at 13:39:54
55 Posted 01/06/2011 at 13:45:43
If Rodwell was to go (let's face it, it's only Utd he'd join) would you take Welbeck and Park for him?
Personally, I hope he stays cos he will be at home in that Barcelona team in a few years.
56 Posted 02/06/2011 at 14:01:52
With Saha and Cahill getting past their best ? not to mention injuries ? then Beckford could do with support and at the right price Mackail-Smith could be the answer. Wigan seem to be interested too.
57 Posted 02/06/2011 at 14:04:02
For us they said, Shane Long, Gervinho, Demba Ba, Michael Owen, James Milner and N'Zogbia.
I am going to stick my neck out here and say that none of those will happen for various, sometimes obvious reasons and here are my suggestions.
Moyes has little money so he will be bargain hunting in the lower divisions such as he did with Beckford. My suggestions, as probably peddled here before, include Craig Mackail-Smith and George Boyd, both at Peterborough and Steve Morrison at Millwall, although I think the latter, whilst good, may be going elsewhere.
Anyway, beware when you see us linked with most players as it is nearly all made up rubbish and yes, I have worked at "proper" newspapers.
58 Posted 02/06/2011 at 15:35:28
The guy is a modern legend but would be on huge wages and has in the last two seasons scored about 10 goals in over 60 matches for Bayern. Not quite as prolific as he was.
Think we should be looking elsewhere.
59 Posted 02/06/2011 at 16:03:06
We've seen the ''best'' now lets see the rest.
60 Posted 02/06/2011 at 21:35:27
Based on a post a while back, I thought we had established that Sur Jo was a piss-taking red?
Was this thread designed to lull people into a false sense of security with a follow-up soon after?
61 Posted 03/06/2011 at 02:52:38
62 Posted 03/06/2011 at 05:25:22
I looked at some of his previous posts... I can perhaps see if I twist around far enough, that he could be taking the piss...
On the other hand, he could be as genuine as anyone else on here for all I know. Correct me if I'm wrong but was this piece really written by a piss-taking red? If so, I'm obviously out of touch and need to recalibrate.
I'm still waiting for that follow-up...
63 Posted 03/06/2011 at 14:53:08
64 Posted 04/06/2011 at 07:05:33
I just don't like people coming on here pretending to be what they are not, joining in our private debates. Of course you are correct, how can you really tell?
65 Posted 04/06/2011 at 17:07:37
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