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jwallace38 James Wallace

Signing a new contract for everton today! #buzzing...then off on holiday 2moro can't wait!

Young reserve James Wallace is signing a new contract tomorrow... it's about time he breaks through to the first team isn't it? And with a new contract and him "buzzing" is it possible he will break through?

Andrew Fair, Ashton     Posted 31/05/2011 at 11:44:05

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Stephen Kenny
1   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:01:41

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I'd like to see some kind of loaning system going into place for players like Wallace who are on the fringes but never quite get through.

I think a season in the Championship would do him the world of good for his development and let us see if he has what it takes at a challenging level.

At the moment it seems a bit haphazard. We should either be grooming them for our 1st team or trying to generate a fee.

Something along the lines of;

Age 17/18 - 3 months at league 1/2 depending on maturity.

Age 18/19 - 6-12 months in the championship.

If they don't perform at either level thens it's fair to say they probably won't be good enough to play for Everton.

Age
Ben Howard
2   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:17:57

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Don't mean to sound rude, but that's a bit of a stupid comment Stephen.

Every player is different, matures at a different rate, and develops in a dissimilar way. Currently, we loan players out to championship sides (such as Coleman to Blackpool last season) if it in their best interest. Wallace himself was on loan at Stockport County (League 2, though got relegated), so the only point you seem to be making is that this should be a regimented thing.

I don't see what is wrong with the current way in which we loan players out.
Kev Lacey
3   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:29:02

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he'll be like a new signing!
James Flynn
4   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:25:09

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Andrew - Would be nice to see, but few teenagers break through in the EPL for a reason. They're teenagers. Who know, maybe Wallace will make an exception.

As far as giving up on them while they're still teenagers? Can't see that at all. They still having filling-out to do, for; physically and mentally.

Will all that, come on young Wallace!
Andrew Fair
5   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:37:21

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Well, he looks like a big lad physically, and according to reports he captained Stockport for a few games at the end of his spell ? must have something about him to be a loan player and go and command enough respect to be given the armband... even if it was for Stockport.
Roberto Birquet
6   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:40:13

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Toffeeweb hoepage
Everton Reserves defender James Wallace is "buzzing" on Twitter after he welcomed the opportunity to sign a new contract at Everton. The 19-year-old product of Everton Academy has agreed a one-year deal. The midfielder ...
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Well, which is it? Defender or midfielder?

One year deal doesn't show a huge amount of faith.
James Marshall
7   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:45:41

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First things first, they need to stop him from using terms like '2moro'
Stephen Kenny
8   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:50:45

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Ben,

Wallace first broke into our squad about 3 years ago.

What do you honestly think was gained by him going out on loan to a side 3 divisions below us?
James Marshall
9   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:53:31

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Experience of playing in front of crowds with professionals? Just a thought.
Stephen Kenny
10   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:53:05

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Forgot to add he has spent his time playing with conference level footballers over the past few months.

Maybe the rough and tumble has hardened him a bit, or a few loud character's have brought him out of his shell but do our prospects have what it takes in terms of ability if they have to drop to that level to get a game at nineteen?

IMO that hasn't done him any favours in terms of experience. But more importantly doesn't tell us if he's ready to take a 1st team squad place, which a loan should be all about for young players.

I.e. Sturridge has proven at Bolton that he can score goals at this level and is worth a place in their squad.
Craig Taylor
11   Posted 31/05/2011 at 15:57:40

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James, the quote comes from twitter. where there is a character restriction. '2moro' saved him some characters.
Ben Howard
12   Posted 31/05/2011 at 16:07:13

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I realised afterwards I was a bit harsh Stephen...

However you've contradicted yourself now. By giving further information you have added credence to my point that each player has to be treated individually. Moyes and his backroom team decided on the way to handle James and whether you agree or not, whatever he has learnt with Stockport has got him a professional contract
Rob Keys
13   Posted 31/05/2011 at 16:22:57

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Besides the fact that the academies of English/British clubs need revamping, perhaps the bigger issue is that of hunger and hardiness of young players coming through the system. People often talked of a dearth of talent, but talent seems to be found everywhere else but within the British game.

Think about this: even our players like Fellani & Arteta leave their countries young enough to sweat it out. By the time they are 2 or 24 years old, they are already able to adjust to different leagues. How many English players are prepared to learn a different language, get their feet wet by playing in a different league etc???

Well, between playing in the reserves indefinitely, or getting loaned out to lower divisions where they are more likely to get lumps kicked out of them, why not try the French league, Dutch or the Belgian league? Or even the Danish & Portugese league? Some people call them Mickey Mouse leagues, but they get to compete in the Europa League & the Champions League. You only get experience by playing. In these places, the money is obviously a lot less, and it's going to be less comfortable.

This is where I see many continental players being hungrier than the British/English. By all means, aim to play too in the Spanish league. In fact, I think that the Spanish 2nd Division will give the youngsters a better education than the Championship.

The Scots of the 60s, 70s and 80s were hungry enough... they moved out of their comfort zones, sought to move down south. Yes, many who did were not good enough, but the very willingness to fight it out beyond the comforts of the familiar is something I believe is important.

Perhaps our "conveyor belt" of young players will be better served to be spending some time out there.

Michael Kenrick
14   Posted 31/05/2011 at 16:23:23

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Thanks, Roberto (#5); I'm playing catchup here... his file was in a dreadful state! (ps: "Toffeeweb hoepage"....Hmmm... that gives me a nice idea for some summer distractions... I can think of some fine hoes we could feature. Not sure Lyndon would approve though.)

I was very interested to see that James Wallace is "just" 5ft-8in tall... and a midfielder... Could it possibly be that the lad has some sublime ball control and passing skills that have "saved" him from the almost inevitable 'small player' axe?
Will Leaf
15   Posted 31/05/2011 at 16:25:38

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"2 moro"?

Young Wallace, please refer to the TW rules regarding spaghetti soup attempts to communicate:

"No txt-speak, please try to use proper grammar, all-lowercase posts are likely to be deleted"

First warning.
James Marshall
16   Posted 31/05/2011 at 16:37:28

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Apparenty thats the way they all speak on the Twitter, Will. Personally I prefer not to spout my entire life all over the Internet ? I choose to ramble about Everton on here with you lot instead; I find it far more sensible somehow...
Dave Smith
17   Posted 31/05/2011 at 16:42:59

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I wouldn't read too much into it. The lad has only signed a 12-month contract.

Not exactly long term. I would presume that next season is his last chance to prove himself.
Chris Bannantyne
18   Posted 31/05/2011 at 16:46:48

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I'm more of a trial by fire kind of guy. If we are comfortably winning a game, chuck him on! Mind you, can't remember the last time we were comfortably winning... Maybe a loan is for the best, haha.

Good luck to the kid. Hopefully he is another Messi and never ever wants to leave the club, not for any money. Fingers tightly crossed!
Tony J Williams
19   Posted 31/05/2011 at 17:43:26

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You don't win anything with kids etc
Dick Anderson
20   Posted 31/05/2011 at 17:45:07

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Why is it about time James Wallace broke through to the Everton team?

Apparently he did ok at Stockport who finished bottom of League 2.

And that qualifies him to be in the starting line up for Everton? A Top 7 Premier League side???
Gerry Quinn
21   Posted 31/05/2011 at 18:20:34

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Will we be selling him to one of the Manch mercenaries for £20-odd million then? We might get "past-it" Scholes as an add-on......
Stephen Kenny
22   Posted 31/05/2011 at 18:43:28

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Ben,

I'm struggling to see the contradiction.

He was already a professional. Has been for quite some time now.

I doubt it's the three months at relegated Stockport that got him his extra year.

I can't see it being playing with pro's either he does that day in day out. Not sure he needs the experience of playing to a massive Stockport faithful either TBH.

He is not what I consider a young lad. At age 19 I would think if he was anywhere near good enough for us he would have going out on loan to a much better side in much better circumstances.

That's my point about the way players who are coming through are loaned out by us. I struggle to see any rhyme or reason to it.

If it helped his development or put him in the shop window I would be the first to praise the club, I don't think this has and you could add the loans of Turner, Nsiala, Agard and Silva to that. Although I read somewhere Silva went due to homesickness.
Andrew Gilbert
23   Posted 31/05/2011 at 21:05:58

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Following James's tweets, I came across this:

Tim Cahill
@fizzer18 cant believe ur on holiday with Moysey, ur like his shadow pal

Tim Cahill
@fizzer18 whoops sorry mate, for telling everyone ur on holiday with the gaffa

Nev is certainly keen!
Dick Anderson
24   Posted 31/05/2011 at 21:26:00

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A couple of good games for bottom of Division 2 side Stockport and all of a sudden he's the next superstar that the evil David Moyes wont give a chance to because (shock) (gasp) (horror) he might be creative.

Lets start the campaign now to get James Wallace in the Everton starting 11.

If he can be ok for bottom of Division 2 side Stockport then surely he can drive Everton to the Champions League.
Matt Traynor
25   Posted 01/06/2011 at 04:12:06

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James #16, can you think of the the consternation it would cause certain contributors to TW to be limited to 140 characters?

Actually, there's a germ of an idea in there!
Trevor Lynes
26   Posted 01/06/2011 at 15:48:22

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Maybe I am a cynic but I honestly believe that the loan system enables clubs like us to lower their wage bill...period!! We loaned out a dozen players of varying degrees of experience and brought in NONE !!
Ian Tunstead
27   Posted 02/06/2011 at 12:29:40

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Michael he cant have been measured for a long time or must have had a growth spurt because i stood next to Wallace in Soccer Sport last year and he was as tall as me, he was at least 5ft-11in. Mind you, Gosling surprised me too, I expected him to be about 5"7 but he was around 5ft10- 5ft11.
Mike O'Neill
28   Posted 03/06/2011 at 19:27:16

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Ian,

who's that other fella you mention?

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