With the visit of Villarreal announced last week a trip to Birmingham has now been announced as part of our pre season preparations.
Much more competetive teams than recent seasons have offered.
I know there is American opposition and Bury early doors, but as the season gets closer we need to play some decent opposition.
Craig Taylor, Posted 06/06/2011 at 10:51:25
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1 Posted 06/06/2011 at 15:42:11
2 Posted 06/06/2011 at 16:02:42
3 Posted 06/06/2011 at 16:33:35
4 Posted 06/06/2011 at 16:53:32
5 Posted 06/06/2011 at 17:28:15
I still wished we played in one of those tournaments like the Emirates cup. Bit more buzz and a better feel for competitive footy. Never seems to do Arsenal too much harm, they usually start the season strongly. Or is that just when they play us?
6 Posted 06/06/2011 at 17:28:54
7 Posted 06/06/2011 at 20:44:22
8 Posted 06/06/2011 at 22:01:35
A) Like the majority of clubs there?s a significant disparity between what the manager wants and what the he is able to get. There?s no reason to believe that our pre-season opponents for the next campaign indicate that Moyes has a better understanding of our needs than he did last year ? or any worse for that matter.
B) Alex Ferguson and Manchester United have repeatedly demonstrated the importance of gaining and maintaining momentum in the run in to the end of the season. Moyes generally does this very well but our limited finances mean that we simply don?t have the resources to finish strongly AND to get off to a flying start. Until we have greater strength in depth, this is unlikely to change, regardless of our pre-season opposition.
9 Posted 06/06/2011 at 22:13:31
Lack of real match sharpness was one of the main reasons that we lost 6-1 to Arsenal (as well as the Lescott factor). We'd been playing second rate opposition while Arsenal were on top of their game after competing in the Emirates Cup.
10 Posted 06/06/2011 at 22:37:13
Last season we lost a relatively key player late on (Lescott) plus Moyes hadn't signed his contract and this season it was due to the lack of major signings to improve the squad.
Both of these events had a big impact on the squad and morale was low. Had the morale been high the start would have been better, I'm convinced of it.
11 Posted 06/06/2011 at 22:59:40
Also agree with Anthony, the Lescott transfer was a cloud over the club all summer and should of been sorted out before the first game.
12 Posted 06/06/2011 at 23:15:29
If we do not have the quality then we will always struggle wether it be the very start of the season,the Xmas period or the end of the season. We do have some quality performers but also have been carrying for many seasons some palyers who just cannot perform consistantly at a high level and they get to play a lot due to a variety of reasons thus reducing the winning percentage of the team.
Not having much money, not being able to afford the top wages or having a manager who cannot vary the way the team plays especially when they go behind are the main reasons we have been down the pack and will continue to be so as long as these factors remain
13 Posted 06/06/2011 at 23:40:21
14 Posted 07/06/2011 at 07:13:49
15 Posted 07/06/2011 at 07:12:56
At the start of the season, all teams are fresh and high on testerone, our pussy footing ladies in midfield simply get run over. Have Heitinga and Felliani in midfield and kick the shit out of the opponents and let the ladies take over after Xmas.
16 Posted 07/06/2011 at 09:14:45
If Arsenal can do it why can't we?
Won't take much money to make medals or cups for the winners. And I'm sure with the matches being hosted at GP, people will come and watch the matches especially if it is like 5-10 quid a match.
17 Posted 07/06/2011 at 09:19:46
18 Posted 07/06/2011 at 10:27:09
Too often this team buckles under the burden of expectation. This season there was lots of hype about how me might go so far as challenging at the top. Lots of us believed 4th place might be possible. And we struggled. In the same way, when Reading came to GP for a place in the FA cup quarters, we struggled. When we have a full team and no injuries, we struggled.
When playing the top 4, when decimated by injury, when expectations are reduced, thats when we do well. Half way through the season when any chance of Europe has faded and there;s not really much to play for...thats when we shine.
Of course there are exceptions to this and sometimes the team does well with expectation. But i do think psychological weakness has something to do with it.
19 Posted 07/06/2011 at 11:09:37
20 Posted 07/06/2011 at 11:32:56
21 Posted 07/06/2011 at 12:23:27
22 Posted 07/06/2011 at 14:10:27
Phil Neville and Felli in the middle with Ossie and Arteta left and right, allowing full backs of Bainsey and Coleman to attack the flanks.
23 Posted 07/06/2011 at 14:47:28
24 Posted 07/06/2011 at 15:20:14
The thing in America does sound pretty decent, because the facilities there are very good, conditions will be very, very, very hot! And the opposition arnt too bad either, I mean, I think our record is attrocious there.
I was surprised with the Birmingham one, but seems good to me. A lot of ex Prem players there. And Villareal is a good ending.
Let's just hope we start better this time. I think its difficult to blame pre-season this time, as it looks ok.
25 Posted 07/06/2011 at 15:24:07
26 Posted 07/06/2011 at 16:41:29
27 Posted 07/06/2011 at 19:30:57
28 Posted 07/06/2011 at 20:45:16
We don't need a creative central midfielder... we need players who win the ball (Felli) and get drag the tempo up (Pip). I'm fed up of watching Arteta, Rodwell etc doing f*ck all but pass sideways and then let the opposition jog past them when we lose the ball.
29 Posted 07/06/2011 at 22:51:48
Ossie finally got a few good games at the end of the season but is still a little slow and weak in the tackle. Biley as everyone agrees should be sent packing but we need to see the new blood given some extended time in the pre-season games such as Velios and Gueye etc.
30 Posted 07/06/2011 at 23:51:51
If we play a better quality of team, only one thing will be different....we won't get any wins pre-season and we will still start shite
31 Posted 08/06/2011 at 12:38:53
is the game due, at St Andrews in July.
If the match is anything like the fixture I attended earlier in the season then I will give that a miss.
I just feel that we need games against sides who will give us a test, and so give Moyes some insight into what is required, not what we have had in the past. little more than training sessions.
32 Posted 08/06/2011 at 13:08:08
33 Posted 08/06/2011 at 14:20:15
The bottom line here is surely that we need to buy some creativity in the middle of the park and have done for years. Arteta is the new Vinny Sideways and Rodders doesn't have a clue what his best position is.
I just can't see Phil Neville spraying the ball about or bringing people into play - likewise Fellaini; he's rather headless at times and isn't exactly known for knocking it about like Xavi.
We need more players - simple as, but without the proverbial pot to piss in, I can't see much happening beyond the quoted Bothroyd, Mackail-Smith etc...
34 Posted 08/06/2011 at 15:59:42
I would like to see us scrap these god forsaken jollies to America and Australia. What's the fucking point? I want us to play somwhere decent in Europe, fuck these trips to countries where they call football soccer. Why not play someone like Porto away then Juventus at home? Or visit somwhere like Ajax or Hamburg.
Organise cheap chartered trips for fans then the club can make some money. Or invite somebody like Ajax or Napoli to Goodsion as both clubs have large UK supporters clubs meaning we'd have away fans visiting Goodsion. Instead we play Villareal who take about 50 fans to big euro away games.
35 Posted 08/06/2011 at 18:47:49
We desperately need someone (not to dissimilar to that gobshite SG accross the park) who can tackle, spot a pass, run their bollocks off for 90 mins, and lift the team. Unfortunately for us, unless Rodwell suddenly gains a die hard mentality, we don't have a player like that on our books. They're either committed and useless, or gifted but spineless!
All that said... I think we'll defo be in the top 4 next May!
36 Posted 08/06/2011 at 19:16:54
37 Posted 08/06/2011 at 20:20:34
38 Posted 09/06/2011 at 02:34:11
39 Posted 09/06/2011 at 18:56:54
What is depressing, is that our players seem to forget how to play footy over the close season and need games to realise what they were doing, not 3 months before.
40 Posted 10/06/2011 at 13:39:34
We need fresh blood at all levels.
41 Posted 10/06/2011 at 16:01:03
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