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Don't blame Drenthe
15 Comments: The biggest disappointment for me last night was the sending off of Royston Drenthe. I'm more annoyed about this than the final result to be honest. It probably did cost us the game but we had enough chances to win. I really hope Moyes doesn't use this an excuse to stop playing attack-minded flair players.
This guy has the potential to be the best attacking wide player we've had since Kanchelskis. He'll make mistakes like in the Man City away game but I really hope this doesn't add weight to Moyes's beliefs of "keep it simple, sideways pass or launch it" football.
Craig Walker, Posted 27/10/2011 at 09:49:02
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I was talking to an Evertonian today at work and while I moaned about Moyes not playing 4-4-2 from the start, playing Mucha, not putting on Velios... all this guy had to say was we lost because of Drenthe. He got sent off we lost... end off; wouldn't hear anything else.
Never mind the fact we should have buried the game by then if the right team and tactics were played!
Drenthe has looked sharp every game, I hope Moyes doesn't pull his "I don't like you" stance on him and bury him in the reserves.
Never mind the fact we should have buried the game by then if the right team and tactics were played!
Drenthe has looked sharp every game, I hope Moyes doesn't pull his "I don't like you" stance on him and bury him in the reserves.
Andy (1) - I think the "one good point" is we're 6 points from 6th place with a game in hand.
Drenthe is another good point though.
If he can put it in the net, I'll forgive he doesn't always track back (Like VanNistelrooy, Henry, either Ronaldo, Pele himself).
Drenthe is another good point though.
If he can put it in the net, I'll forgive he doesn't always track back (Like VanNistelrooy, Henry, either Ronaldo, Pele himself).
Out main issue was Mucha. He cost us dearly and, if not for him, we would have won. Also Stracqualursi was a piss-poor pick by Moyes.
It has all left a really bad taste in my mouth. Mucha to me is gone. I don't want to see him play again. Stracq needs to get a grip and start working hard to earn his place ? plus practice finishing.
The main reason we lost yesterday was because of too many and bad changes, no doubt about that. There is a given in football: never change a winning side.
It has all left a really bad taste in my mouth. Mucha to me is gone. I don't want to see him play again. Stracq needs to get a grip and start working hard to earn his place ? plus practice finishing.
The main reason we lost yesterday was because of too many and bad changes, no doubt about that. There is a given in football: never change a winning side.
The transfer window was about to close when Davey Moyes pulled Drenthe`s career out of the toilet. Nobody else had come in for him and his own manager didn't want to know.
Drenthe owes the Everton manager and supporters big time; he recently praised Moyes for driving him to a level of fitness that has enabled to perform at the highest level again, his joy at the final whistle was there for all to see at Fulham as he celebrated with fans who have instantly taken him to their hearts.
Drenthe has undoubted talent, I have been singing his praises to anyone who will listen to me since he got here, but we were given a clear indication as to why his current manager deals with him from a distance the length of a barge pole.
Moyes let every Evertonian down on Wednesday: when Drenthe walked past after being sent off, he should have felt a the full force of a size eleven up his arse. He had cost us the game alright, his sending of acted as a shot in the arm for a Chelsea side that had been battered for the best part of an hour.
Most of us will forgive you this time, Royston lad... probably because we are desperate.
Drenthe owes the Everton manager and supporters big time; he recently praised Moyes for driving him to a level of fitness that has enabled to perform at the highest level again, his joy at the final whistle was there for all to see at Fulham as he celebrated with fans who have instantly taken him to their hearts.
Drenthe has undoubted talent, I have been singing his praises to anyone who will listen to me since he got here, but we were given a clear indication as to why his current manager deals with him from a distance the length of a barge pole.
Moyes let every Evertonian down on Wednesday: when Drenthe walked past after being sent off, he should have felt a the full force of a size eleven up his arse. He had cost us the game alright, his sending of acted as a shot in the arm for a Chelsea side that had been battered for the best part of an hour.
Most of us will forgive you this time, Royston lad... probably because we are desperate.
He was sent off for trying to win the ball and push forward. It was late and a yellow card, no arguments, but I'll not come down on someone for trying and was clearly our best player on the park.
I'd be more concerned with some of the other performances, Heitinga should've been quicker to react for their and what the fuck was he doing for the penalty, Strac doesn't look up to the standard and Mucha can no longer have any complaints about Howard starting ahead of him.
I'd be more concerned with some of the other performances, Heitinga should've been quicker to react for their and what the fuck was he doing for the penalty, Strac doesn't look up to the standard and Mucha can no longer have any complaints about Howard starting ahead of him.
Drenthe was sent off because he could not curb his over-enthusiasm. I'll take that over dreary and passionless play any day.
I wonder what it would have been like on here if Hibbert had been sent off and cost us the game?
Please, lets not confuse passion with stupidity,
The guy had already been issued with a totally unessary yellow.
Liam
We need this guy big time, if we dont come down on him -or worse still, applaud him off as some idiots did - then we are encouraging irresponsible behavior.
This was no Rodwell like injustice, he gave the referee no option.
He`s a talented boy, but he`ll be no good to us tomorrow, he needs to grow up
The guy had already been issued with a totally unessary yellow.
Liam
We need this guy big time, if we dont come down on him -or worse still, applaud him off as some idiots did - then we are encouraging irresponsible behavior.
This was no Rodwell like injustice, he gave the referee no option.
He`s a talented boy, but he`ll be no good to us tomorrow, he needs to grow up
There would have been an internet riot Brian
He does deserve some blame, as the first yellow was for dissent! The ref called a foul against him and he starting jumping about and made a fake kick towards the ref, and it was after that when the ref pulled out the yellow.
The 2nd one was unlucky, you see them all the time, both players running at speed, and he just caught him a tad late.
The 2nd one was unlucky, you see them all the time, both players running at speed, and he just caught him a tad late.
Agree with you Dave, I can't believe that he was applauded off the pitch.
Problaby would have system meltdown Tony.
Problaby would have system meltdown Tony.
What a load of rubbish Dave and Brian. Of course he was applauded off the pitch he was our best player!
The only player Baines aside with any real quality who I would pay to watch. He was a constant threat and won countless free kicks in dangerous areas.
The sending off was a joke. The referee couldn't wait to even it up as the Chelsea sending off was harsh as well. The first booking for Drenthe was never a foul let alone a yellow. The 2nd one was soft and had neither been given no chelsea player would have complained. Blaming on Drenthe is simply stupid and misplaced. We lost that match because of one player only and that was Mucha.
The only player Baines aside with any real quality who I would pay to watch. He was a constant threat and won countless free kicks in dangerous areas.
The sending off was a joke. The referee couldn't wait to even it up as the Chelsea sending off was harsh as well. The first booking for Drenthe was never a foul let alone a yellow. The 2nd one was soft and had neither been given no chelsea player would have complained. Blaming on Drenthe is simply stupid and misplaced. We lost that match because of one player only and that was Mucha.
Well in James#13.
FFS everyone ? he made a rash tackle, he didn't have a mare à la Mucha, and as for the "he cost us the game" argument ? absolute testicles! All he did was to even it up to 10 v 10, against a weakened Chelsea team at home.
Don't look at Drenthe ? look at the team that folded after he got red carded.
FFS everyone ? he made a rash tackle, he didn't have a mare à la Mucha, and as for the "he cost us the game" argument ? absolute testicles! All he did was to even it up to 10 v 10, against a weakened Chelsea team at home.
Don't look at Drenthe ? look at the team that folded after he got red carded.
You can't hold one person culpable for the League Cup exit the other night, there were others at fault for our expulsion. Mucha in goal had an evening to forget and Moyes, while putting out a strong starting XI, left out some relevant names that could of made a difference.
It's no good crying over spilt milk at this stage. I was genuinely frustrated after the event the other night but it's water under the bridge now. There will be bigger fish to fry this season, and all is not lost; still everything to play for.
It's no good crying over spilt milk at this stage. I was genuinely frustrated after the event the other night but it's water under the bridge now. There will be bigger fish to fry this season, and all is not lost; still everything to play for.
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