The Rumour Mill, Season 2011-12

More takeover chatter

19/12/2011 | Comments (43)
It's half-season ticket time so no surprise that rumours of an imminent takeover at Goodison are cropping up again.

The latest suggestion is that a deal to buy the club for £150m is in the final stages — this time it's Miami Dolphins owner, Steve Ross, who is supposed to be the interested party according to posts on various message boards and Twitter — but, of course, we've been here many times before.

Original Source: Internet Whisperings

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Robert Daniels
1   Posted 18/12/2011 at 22:53:49

Rumours abound about new takeover... I know, I know. Same old same old, but Steve Ross, Miami Dolphins owner?

Let's fucking hope, have you heard anything?
James Flynn
2   Posted 19/12/2011 at 01:47:35

I don't see any "Kenright etal" cynicism here.

The Club is for sale and has been. Now, the £150m number? Who floated that number?

We're getting close to this bunch leaving.

What will be the sale price at time of purchase? That's the question.
Jimmy Sørheim
3   Posted 19/12/2011 at 02:11:27

There will not be any sale, until the BU can re-establish contact with Kenwright and become an active part in pushing the sale. The BU can not afford to be this passive, they need to be in with Kenwright in order to get any information and to put further presuure on Kenwright.
Jimmy Sørheim
4   Posted 19/12/2011 at 02:14:30

The BU have already failed their aim, as it say here:

Through honest and open dialogue between the club and the fans, we genuinely believe we can help put Everton Football Club back where it belongs. 



They have destroyed any hope of getting contact with Bill Kenwright and the club and they are now so silent and dead that people have forgotten ALL about them, and now started focusing on David Moyes and his failings.
Jesus christ, why couldnt you keep that transcript for yourselves like Kenwright asked you to, and you promised to do.
I am angry on behalf of this mess, makes our clubs fans look dumb, and therefore the clapping at Goodison for Kenwright came.

This BU has been a complete disaster, you havent reached any of your goals, you have only made the public aware of the mess we are in, and how does that help when you appear to have no solution to it.

I am sad and a bit angry at this result, and I firmly belive all this have sapped all the good out of Moyes and the players.
Look at where we are now, we are in an even worse situation than before this silly group came to place.

How I wish there were some wise guys inside the BU who could say sorry to Kenwright and try to patch up this mess.
Mike Jones
5   Posted 19/12/2011 at 02:47:08

Jimmy Sørheim

What have YOU done for the good of Everton lately?

Mick Davies
6   Posted 19/12/2011 at 02:55:32

Heard talk of a yank taking over Everton. .believe it's Mickey Mouse
Paul Gladwell
7   Posted 19/12/2011 at 06:10:51

That's right Jimmy its all the BU fault....good Lord!
Did you go the game on Saturday?
Paul Gladwell
8   Posted 19/12/2011 at 06:29:15

1 point at home against shite like Norwich,Stoke and QPR, one up front against all these teams Phil Neville in midfield, your only bit of creativity stuck on the bench, then when Moyes does what the 30k fans wanted him to do at half time things changed like we knew they would, 31,000 at home with a lower crowd coming this Wednesday, yes its all the Blue Unions fault and the reason I asked was you one of those loyal souls on Saturday like so many of those you slag off, as you would have realised how many fed up,cold and pissed off blues were in that morgue of a stadium.
Mike Green
9   Posted 19/12/2011 at 07:01:02

Paul - watching the highlights on MOTD (so admittiedly I am part of the problem....) I felt a bit sick seeing all the empty seats around the ground. It stood out at the Park End in particluar, cant blame obstructed view on that one.....

My lad's 4 and at the start of the season I decided I'd take him to his first game this year, circumstances have conspired against us so far but as the season wears on I'm thinking "Jesus, I cant take him to watch this s**t, it'll put him off for life...." I also dont want to find myself after 20 minutes agreeing with an infant that I'm cold, bored and want to go home. : )

I think we are edging towards a takeover, you can sense BK knows he's no longer loved, and as much as I agree with much of what you say Jimmy it was the BU that have brought this home to him more than any body else. I think we'll have new owners by the start of next season, hopefuly my lad wont have been put off for life by then.
Joseph Foster
10   Posted 19/12/2011 at 07:35:05

Best Xmas prezzy yet if it happens
Ste Traverse
11   Posted 19/12/2011 at 07:36:13

There's unrest amongst the fanbase+the transfer winsow opens soon+half season tickets are on sale=Nicely timed rumours about a takeover.

So so predictable.....
Stephen Kenny
12   Posted 19/12/2011 at 07:34:38

Jimmy,

I know were not supposed to say this but I honestly believe your a club plant.

You have been on here spouting nonsense for god knows how long about how to get the manager out in order to make those with a sane argument for him going part of the same daft gang.

Now all of a sudden you are spouting nonsense about what the BU should and shouldn't do, completely ignoring the facts that media coverage of the ownership of EFC has never been under so much impartial media scrutiny at any point under Bill Kenwright.

Now your blaming all the clubs ill's on them too. Last week we should have been marching in the streets to get rid of Moyes now it's the BU's fault?

I expect we'll be seeing you marching up the streets of Oslo with your "Everyone Out" banners sooner rather than later?
Ste Traverse
13   Posted 19/12/2011 at 07:39:11

What an absolute joke of a post, Jimmy # 4.

Why do some fans turn a blind eye to the mess created by Kenwright and try to put the blame on anyone but him?
Phil Walling
14   Posted 19/12/2011 at 07:56:49

For the record,I again say that Kenwright and Moyes piss in the same pot. They will only fall out when Kemwright `s failings make the club unable to pay Moyes` ridiculous salary-for which he treats us to utter shite!
Paul Gladwell
15   Posted 19/12/2011 at 08:17:56

Mike, totally understand where you are coming from, I sit near to a few kids and alls they seem to be doing is playing on there phones due to the negative crap, fair enough I am all for caution against teams like City etc but this was Norwich and we had two holding defensive midfielders and one forward.
Phil Bellis
16   Posted 19/12/2011 at 09:00:11

...and I firmly belive all this have sapped all the good out of Moyes and the players..."

Grow up
John Keating
17   Posted 19/12/2011 at 09:19:28

Rumours of a takeover ??? Have the BU announced another march - must have missed the announcement !
Phil Roberts
18   Posted 19/12/2011 at 09:30:25

Not the Fish. Please no. They are one of the worst run franchises in the NFL. Haven't won anything. Last won the super bowl 40 years ago, Last playoff game they won was 20 years ago. They have no clue.

Somebody please Ring Robert Kraft NOW at Patriot Place. He turned that franchise around to be one of the best in the NFL.
Mick Gallagher
19   Posted 19/12/2011 at 09:50:16

Jimmy #4 how have the Blue Union failed, they highlighted the problems at the club. Everyday that passes they have been proved right. You say keep it to yourself lads, why he told them you could ask anything but not about his family and no one mentioned his family. You might like to bury your head in the sand and hope everything will be fine and do fuck all about,but other fans what more.
Dick Fearon
20   Posted 19/12/2011 at 10:14:25

We have been hoping and praying for someone to buy us. At the first hint that it could be on the cards we get the likes of Phil #18, saying Not the Fish please please not them.
Gareth Fieldstead
21   Posted 19/12/2011 at 10:15:33

150 milllion? Surely not?! A club he bought for 22 million, sold all the assets, has done nothing to improve Goodison, wasted countless millions on two failed ground moves and yet him and his cronies walk away with well over 100 million in profit? As much as I want the fella out that would really stick in the throat. Sadly I think its all rubbish anyway, even if as has been highlighted before on the site, we only gradually rebuilt the ground to a standard required, provided funds for the manager within our budget (Uefa rules etc) any new owner would still have to part with around 300 million, were is the potential profit there?
Matt Traynor
22   Posted 19/12/2011 at 13:18:08

Gareth #21, I have to agree with you. If BK and the other major shareholders had managed to screw someone out of £150m, I would be seriously worried about our new owners financial acumen!
Peter Rogers
23   Posted 19/12/2011 at 13:40:46

Ste Ross is worth $3.1 bill about £2 bill does any one believe he would risk 25% of his fortune on us? I dont think so. Before you all start in, it would cost at least £500 mill to purchase us, build a new ground, get new players and pay off debt.
Stephen Kenny
24   Posted 19/12/2011 at 13:52:30

Peter I think your a bit OTT on how much we would need to spend to make us competitive but I agree with the point you make.

Imagine you had Billions available to you. What are you going to do? You can't take it with you. You'd have to be incredibly foolish to lose that amount so you may as well have some fun with it.
James Flynn
25   Posted 19/12/2011 at 15:23:51

Phil (18) - Take a pill brother. We don't know how Ross would be as an owner.

Dick (20) - Actually, the jury's still out on the Dolphin's ownership. Ross just took over near-complete ownership the last couple of years.

The Dolphins he purchased were beyond horrible and the NFL of all sports is the one where you have to be patient for 3-4 years and be lucky with the draft and keeping injuries to a minimum. So there's no real telling yet.

One thing sure, Ross has very deep pockets.
Chris Verghoden
26   Posted 19/12/2011 at 16:11:04

Mick#6 I believe Mickey Mouse wears a Bill Kenwright watch
James Flynn
27   Posted 19/12/2011 at 16:55:17

Forgot to mention, PLEASE let this be true.
Ray Roche
28   Posted 19/12/2011 at 18:06:14

Gareth Fieldstead,

Nail,head, hit. You beat me to it.
Jimmy Sørheim
29   Posted 19/12/2011 at 21:26:26

Ok, maybe the BU have done some good, but overall we are still in the same mess as we were before it started.

Tell me HOW the BU have done anything to our benefit!! I cannot see anything apart from us knowing more about the dire finance situation.

My main point is to find a new strategy, one that includes BU and Kenwright getting on together for the best of the club.

Mr.Kenny, you are wrong, I am no plant from Everton. I have been critical of Moyes and he deserves it. But what exactly has the BU done to help get new investment?? Bad media coverage is good for the club and the players? Is that your view?

"Now all of a sudden you are spouting nonsense about what the BU should and shouldn't do, completely ignoring the facts that media coverage of the ownership of EFC has never been under so much impartial media scrutiny at any point under Bill Kenwright."
br />I am telling you that the media coverage is simply not enough!!! If we are to get anywhere with this BU thing there needs to be a open and constructive debate with Kenwright and the BU.

Right now there is zero, nothing.

Don't try and tell me you are pleased with the progress of the BU and the Kenwright situation,

Why don't you say what you think should be the next step for the BU, Mr Kenny?
Jimmy Sørheim
30   Posted 19/12/2011 at 21:44:49

The idea of the BU was a nice one. But I feel it has done us no good in the terms of getting a good result, I just feel we are in a mess that will take a long time to clear out. Not only Kenwright and the board, but Moyes has to take blame for what he has done this season, selling Arteta and Yakubu was the part that destroyed us.

Though Kenwright is worse then Moyes, I feel Moyes is as much to blame for the poor money situation we are in. Too much money on wages, eg, Fellaini's £70k a week wages are way above what we can afford and should pay for that kind of player.

"Through honest and open dialogue between the club and the fans, we genuinely believe we can help put Everton Football Club back where it belongs.

"

Where is that dialogue, and when do you plan to start it?
Ian Bennett
31   Posted 19/12/2011 at 21:51:11

Phil 14. Of course they piss in the same pot. BK has mortgaged everything else.

I half expect him to send Phil Neville to the door, hiding behind the Park End. Bill isn't here....
Michael Mcloughlin
32   Posted 19/12/2011 at 22:34:01

It s Bullshit then ???
Tommy Hesketh
33   Posted 19/12/2011 at 22:40:25

Michael 33#

No mate it's 100% genuine, The buyer said he's got the cash it's he's just waiting for his Wonga Application to come through and he's offered to put his bedsit up as security.
Richard Styles
34   Posted 20/12/2011 at 02:04:09

The Panthers are doing Well right now, so he is like Kenright feeling the Miami Heat at the moment...Might just be something in this one..apparently he`s offering Shamoo as a deposit...!
Jimmy Sørheim
35   Posted 19/12/2011 at 02:14:30

The BU have already failed their aim, as it say here:

Through honest and open dialogue between the club and the fans, we genuinely believe we can help put Everton Football Club back where it belongs. 



They have destroyed any hope of getting contact with Bill Kenwright and the club and they are now so silent and dead that people have forgotten ALL about them, and now started focusing on David Moyes and his failings.
Jesus christ, why couldnt you keep that transcript for yourselves like Kenwright asked you to, and you promised to do.
I am angry on behalf of this mess, makes our clubs fans look dumb, and therefore the clapping at Goodison for Kenwright came.

This BU has been a complete disaster, you havent reached any of your goals, you have only made the public aware of the mess we are in, and how does that help when you appear to have no solution to it.

I am sad and a bit angry at this result, and I firmly belive all this have sapped all the good out of Moyes and the players.
Look at where we are now, we are in an even worse situation than before this silly group came to place.

How I wish there were some wise guys inside the BU who could say sorry to Kenwright and try to patch up this mess.
Roger Barrett
36   Posted 20/12/2011 at 16:37:57

Jimmy how the fuck could something as important like that be kept quiet?

Get real bill kenwrights and indeed his boards ineptitude needed to be exposed to the masses and yes getting round the table with them has probably gone but then who the fuck would want to when you see the drivel you'd have to put up with.

Ps: I personally haven't forgot about the blue union,you might have but then you've probably got you time all tied up with your head buried in the sand.
Paul Gladwell
37   Posted 20/12/2011 at 16:42:38

Jimmy shall you be there offering something tomorow like those lads you slaughter? very funny after all these years of 24/7 things look like they could be coming to a head, is that just coincidence its all happened since the fan groups appeared? And just for outing Ian Ross for what he is is a success in many blues eyes.
So saying they have failed is bollocks
Eugene Ruane
38   Posted 20/12/2011 at 16:36:49

I'm dead curious.

In fact I HAVE to know, so I'm just going to...come out with it.

Is there someone involved with the BU who nobbed Jimmy's bird?

Sister?

Mam?

Or is there an ex-teacher involved with the BU who used to mark Jimmy's homework and write "2/10 - see me!" on it.

Or maybe someone involved with the BU..er..'interfered' with Jimmy?

Got to be ONE of these things as NONE of his attempts to rationally argue against the BU or their aims is making ANY fucking sense AT ALL.

Jay Harris
39   Posted 20/12/2011 at 16:46:33

Jimmy#36,

you must be jockeying for Ian Ross's job.

As many posters have previously pointed out all the BU have done is bring to light the lies and deceipt that is going on at EFC and have called for the board to appoint professionals to be appointed to help sell the club.

You would have to be dumb to believe that Kenwright has been looking for a buyer/investor 24/7 for 10 years without success and still claim to be the "best salesman Everton have got".

While in the meantime he runs up record debts,sells or martgages every asset he inherited and has UNEXPLAINED operating costs of over 20 million a year.

We DONT need contact with Bill Kenwright we just need the lying incompetent charlatan out of the club.
James Flynn
40   Posted 20/12/2011 at 18:33:36

Eugene (39) - I'll admit to 2 of thoses listed. Alcohol involved, so I might have mentioned my BU membership. Can't say more than that, though.
Stephen Kenny
41   Posted 20/12/2011 at 19:00:28

'The BU have already failed their aim, as it say here:

Through honest and open dialogue between the club and the fans, we genuinely believe we can help put Everton Football Club back where it belongs.'

Do you honestly believe there has been honest and open dialogue from the club???

Apparently Norways full of forests. Go for a walk through one and see if you can spot any wood!!

Or, cross over and walk through Stanley Park!!!

James Flynn
42   Posted 20/12/2011 at 18:52:10

What the hell, I sent David Hyde a request for takeover rumor update on his blog. Let's see what he answers.
Ian Smitham
43   Posted 20/12/2011 at 19:30:54

Aha, friends. How will we know if this is even remotely true?

I have a season ticket (2 actually) but nevertheless miss a couple of games now and then. Say, hols, other committments, maybe work, but not often do I miss a game and I will be there tommorrow.

After the game, can I suggest a few write in with a nomination of who was the most high profile person missing from Goodison on the night and follow it up with a guess as to why.

Just for a laugh.

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