Tottenham install Moyes as top target to replace Redknapp

Basically from the comments I've read everyone seems swayed by talksport and the various pundits on tele who whenever a managers job becomes available mention Martinez like he is this god like manager! And that English based managers are the only option.

I'd like to throw another name in the hat Slaven Bilic, yes our old talismanic centre back! He's got an affinity with the club and I'm guessing would like to work with jelavic (grasping at straws maybe?) He is at his last tournament currently with Croatia and he's done a good job there considering it's his first job. Forget about Kenwright's money issues that is the fella that I'd like to see in charge next. Who would your choice be?

"I would be very interested in being the Tottenham manager, they are a major club with a bright future. But [Spurs chairman] Daniel Levy needs to be convinced I am the man for the job."

Plus there are currently three Croatian players at Tottenham as far as recall and maybe Modric could be tempted to stay with Bilic as manager?

We would get at least £3m compensation for Moyes (1 yr left on his contract); 20m for Baines, 25m for Felli, 5m for Cahill and 15m for Jags. Vic would go for about 2m.

This leaves us with 70m, of which the new manager would get 30m to spend on new signings and we would desperately need a left-back a striker and a winger.

As mentioned above I worry as to what manager would want to come to a sell to buy regime with ropey finances and top players highly coveted by richer clubs...

Subs
Mucha, Coleman, Duffy, Neville, Barkley, Gueye, Velios

However if they do approach him, I think he'll go. And who could blame him.

Well, if they do take Moyes we can take Harry. No probs.

Well, if they do take Moyes we can take Harry. No probs.

As any new manager might consider that he wants him as part of the squad at spurs, so I doubt they'll let him go until a new manager is signed and has his own squad ideas/targets.

Moyes going or not doesn't alter the fact that we DO have much bigger problems that only SOME blues are worried about.

Things will only change for the better when the current board go.

Ally McCoist?

Lower leagues...Gus Poyet? Atkins?

Foreign....(tough with no money)....

Massive gamble....Glenn Hoddle, Steve McClaren

Probably a safe, cheap option then of Stubbs & Weir (assistant) partnership. Duncan Ferguson in as Reserve team Manager.

I do hope he doesn't find this new experience too 'taxing' .

Massive change for him, bright lights of London - probably what he set himself to achieve all those years ago when he started out as manager - he should snap it up.

Is there still/can Moyes work under a Director of Football at Spurs?

Martinez or Bilic (who owes us a few ££) for Everton.

He is highly thought of by the other managers and the media, we expect a lot from him because of one season where we overachieved.

I wouldn't like to see him go but I am curious to see what he would be like with money to spend and a decent squad to pick from.

The BBC pundits are stating anything from "Moyes isn't first choice", to not even mentioning him.

Moyes is also on £3.5m a year, he won't get an increase on that in London. But he'll be under serious pressure for his job for the first time, could be out on his ear in 18 months, reputation in tatters.

What do you seriously think he'll do?

...unfortunately I think Goodison Park is too far from his Sandbanks pad for him to commute!

Or Maybe:-

Why was Dire Davey not considered good enough for Spurs 'cos after all the pundits and the Meejah!! just loves him?

People are getting a little ahead of themselves by speculating about our next manager.
First of all Moyes has to be offered the Spurs job and even then then he has to be stupid enough accept it.

And someone who might aim to play, if I can paraphrase Mike Basset, England Manager, bleedin four, bleedin four, bleeding two.

You can feel very free to feel inferior to Spurs, Many Evertonians (the proud ones at least) will see Spurs as a step down and would fully expect our manager to fuck them right off.

No explaing to do here lad, Moyes is a hired hand and the day he leaves, he ceases to be of any concern to Evertonians ( the proud ones at least)

I hope, if the interest from Spurs is genuine, that he can use this as leverage to get Kenwright to provide decent funds....dream on eh.

However I do think he could be a great appointment in the long term for them and would almost definitely take the job if offered as to be honest the only way for Everton is down now given our comparitive poverty, even West Ham and Southampton will be outspending us this Summer!

The longest odds you can get on Moyes are 2/1. They're the shortest odds you can get on any other manager - Roberto Martinez in this case...

Moyes is a clear, clear favourite with the bookies at the moment:

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/tottenham-specials/next-permanent-manager

Secondly, if Bill was to let him leave it would indicate that the club is not for sale. Casting more uncertainty on our situation, like allowing the man who spent 10 years stabilising(?) us would not doubt discourage more potential/imaginary investors...

This has to be the chink of light Moyes is looking for. Spurs are team heading down, Everton are on the up, I hope he sees sense rather than becoming a passing fad for the Londoners. I would be devestated if he left, he has single handedly made this club respectable again. I hope he finishes the job.

Reason....He will have to deliver at Spurs...Levy wont accept KITAP1 and fininishing 7th as annual success....He wont accept not being able to beat the likes of Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea & the RS away from home in 10yrs...if he's dumped Deputy Dawg after what he's done there then Davie's got no chance.

Moyes has the safest job in the WORLD....huge salary, a Chairman who can see no wrong in him or his style of play despite not winning a thing in 10 yrs...a seasonal brief just to make sure we dont get relegated & anything else is a bonus....and a ready made 'we cant compete we have no cash' excuse.

Does anybody really believe that he will leave all that for a job where he will be EXPECTED to win things ??....not fuckin likely !!

I am struggling to be optimistic is this present climate, however I will have a stab, if we sell Baines could we take cash plus maybe a couple of players, Mrs Parks little lad is a work horse who I often feel is a tailor made Everton player, prehaps the young Italian striker meceada (spelt wrong I know)

If spurs do coming with some serious cash in hand for Moyes could they sweeten the compensation with throwing Piennar into the mix

As for fellaini if clubs are hovering around Goodison peering on one of our biggest assests in every sense of the word they can forget getting him on the cheap, the transfer market in football is so varied that I honestly believe that a few added million can be added depending on who the current parent club is. If Fellaini was at a top four club now he would be easily be worth Thirty million plus, in Queen kennys eyes make that Fifty million, but he is not he is at our beloved cash strapped Everton and anything below Twenty Fve million would be an insult to a club that paid Fifteen million and have brought him on so much that he is a player in demand and is being courted all over europe and has not even peaked within his own ability yet.

Right, like I said I would have a stab, now here is what I fear, DM will leave Everton not because he was a failure but simply Everton failed him. To all the Moyes haters out there be very careful what you wish for, no doubt the idiots at sos1878 will be high fiving each other today thinking mission accomplished. How Moyes has not walked away in the previous ten years is beyond me, working his socks off on a shoe string whilst the inept board failed him and undermined him at every opportunity stripping him and us of our assets.

Always feared that one scarificail lamb would be offered up this pre season I was hopeful that would be Rodwell, I know fear that it will lead to a mass exidos Baines, Fellaini and christ please no not Jelavic. Moyes has been the glue that has kept the harmony and the team spirit together at the club, without him I fear we are going back to the dark days of Walker/Smith. relegation battles playing five at the back at home to Coventry. If Moyes does go can the last person switch the lights off at the grand old lady and kiss her goodnight

The TV deal has risen every time it has been re-tendered. Everton have continued to accrue debt in this time, and operate at a loss.

The Sun today (owned by News International who are major shareholders in BSkyB) that it will herald the advent of the £350,000 / wk player.

There's your clue as to why we'll still be in the shit.

Whilst the Evertonian in me wants him to stay, there is a bit of me that wants him to go and show all you small minded blinkered muppets what you have lost.

I seem to remember that they had 'arry as clear favourite for the england job. And martinez for the RS job.

So...

Also, what's with all the rubbish about Moyes's tactics not fitting in with Spurs? He doesn't need to have the same tactics as with Everton because he will have a far superior squad and will have a bench that can actually be utilised instead of throwing on a kid or a has been.

I wish people would stop judging what he would hypothetically do at Spurs based on the players he has at his disposal at Everton. You have a better squad, your tactics change, it's that simple.

Well said! What ever criticism you can throw at Moyes one thing is for sure and that is his confidence in his own ability!

Also Tony #876
you're spot on! Moyes has adapted his tactics at everton around the players he's had available. With Pienaar, Arteta and Donovan in the team a couple of years back we played some really attractive attacking football becuse he had those type of players available. Recently he has had to take a more defensive approach as he has had a squad with strong defensive players.
If he goes to Spurs he will play the tactics required to achieve the best results available with the squad there.

I have no doubt Fellaini and Jelavic would soon follow him to WHL..........which is bloody worrying!!!

Bad for Moyes, Levy won't give him the time BK has. Bad for Spurs, the fans will demand a continuation of free-flowing attacking football. Bad for Everton, would probably see the wheels fall off somewhat, Pienaar, Baines, Fellaini could go, and the team spirit would take a battering.

Moyes is very happy at Everton and I for one do not see him leaving for this particular job. If he diod however leave then guess what? ... life goes on

The truth is that alot of Everton fans, including me, would be pretty pleased (assuming we get given no money again this season) to finish in the top 6 whereas Spurs will expect/demand top 4.

Both of which will be on John Parrott's recommendation.

Davie Weir will then be made first team coach.

I think Moyes could well do well at Spurs,as much as I dont like him he does get results.The problem is unless he gets off to a flying start and does something special in his first season i'd expect the spurs fans to hound him out.

People have said only plays the way he does because of the players at his disposal (players he signed) but I dont see it that way.

During the last few years we have had a better team than most in the league yet in the main he doesnt look to attack and finish these teams off.

In any case, I don't think there will be any change. Whatever anyone else says about him, I think moyes genuinely loves the club and I would imagine he might only consider leaving if there was no-way to keep everton competing. He's been here so long that it must be a wrench to leave. Can kenwright convince him to re-sign? I think he can.

"Do you think it was Moyes' footballing decision to sell Arteta, Yak, Beckford, and Vaughan in one summer, with little or nothing in to replace them?"

Firstly, Arterta wanted to move, said he wanted to play Champions League football so who was DM to stand in his way, the Yak always scores in the first couple of seasons that he's at a club then moves on, Beckford never got on with Moyes anyway and the fact that he accepted the move to Leicester showed his complete lack of ambition and Vaughan was a sick note which was proven when he moved to Norwich and got injured for the season.

At the end of the day, Moyes would have more control of our club than he would at Spurs.

They have just sacked their manager for coming 4th, obviously something else has gone on behind the scenes but this would not be the best incentive for a manager to join a club.

Sam, I am with you. What would Arry do at Everton, he wouldn't have the money to buy his way out of trouble if his managerial skill were found wanting. It was said that Arry has had a good pay off by Spurs, they have paid him £3m and it works out that after tax hie will receive......£3m....boom bomm

Most fans moan when players want away from a club saying they are not showing enough loyalty, and yet if Moyes chooses to snub Spurs (if offered the job) and shows a bit of loyalty to finish a job here that he started, you will call that a lack of ambition!

I think we need to get real here and give the man a break. Not many men get to manage a football team at the highest level. If you have made it this far, then I think that shows you have more than a bit of ambition about you! Otherwise we'd all be bloody football managers!

Perhaps he will hold for the Man U job. I know some of the experts here dont think he will get it, but the current manager thinks he has a great chance.

Wonder who he`ll listen too

I'll have whatever you're drinking Dave.

Moyes would do a great job for them I think. We all know he is good at finding great bargains. Look how well Jelavic is doing and how Gibson reinvented himself. I doubt whether he would want to jump ship for Spurs. Without Modric and Bale which is likely I'm not sure what he could achieve there that redknapp didn't.

maybe you might want to have what SAF is drinking.

I`m sure Moyes will want to give as much consideration to your comments as he does to Fergies

If Moyes does go I don't blame him because quite frankly after what he's done here he deserves a bit of an easy ride. Then we'd all have to watch him working his genius in the transfer market picking up all those players that he could never get with us and with those better players playing a brand of football even better than what we've seen the back end of this season. Instead of Magaye Gueye on his left flank he'd have Gareth Bale. Knowing Moyes though he'll probably turn down a shed load of money, professional advancement, a chance to win trophies, all to stay at everton and try against overwhelming odds to get us back where we think we belong, and how will we thank him? By getting back to moaning at his every word and team selection and claiming that he wouldn't have been good enough for Spurs anyway. Of course some new progressive coach could come in play Barkley instead of Osman and we'll win the league, who knows he might even play 4-4-2 like mike Bassett. Even if he gets relegated as long as he did it in a flowing style he'll automatically be better than moyes and will be vindication for some people who only want to watch Everton to be entertained.

Of course, you've already admitted the first part of your post was wrong. Can people stop referring to rumour as fact. It's bloody ridiculous.

It isnt about Mikel Arteta or David Moyes, it's about Everton FC! The fact is is that selling our best and only creative player on deadline day with no time to sign a replacement was to the detriment of the club. If Arteta wanted CL football so bad, why didnt he say so earlier and tout himself around all summer, or why did he sign a 5 year contract? My point is that it wasnt a football decision, and if it was just a personal thing toward Arteta, then where did the money go? Also, just what control would he lose by moving to Spurs? If he went there, he might pinpoint a player he likes, and actually get to sign him, he might quite like having Gareth Bale playing for him, and not have to worry that the second anyone comes waving half his market value, hes gone. He also might see a new stadium being built further increasing the already inflated revenue he would have at his disposal. I really dont see this control freak Levy that people talk about. He gave Harry plenty of time (4 years) and money (god knows how much), and in the end he had nothing to show for it.

The Head says small squad and club want survival first so 40 pts is the target and then we might push on.

Maybe the 40 pts can come quickly, if not it will be the safety first keep it tight nick a goal to endure if we have the notorious slow start.

Jelalvic will be isolated up front and service will be limited as we hang on for the point. The season ended weeks ago and we have no new faces or exits, a lot of speculation though. Remember football is business first and entertainment second. If we aint winning forget the entertainment.

If Moyes goes can we get a manager intent on winning first drawing second and losing a distant third.

Phil Neville for next Everton manager, Why? Schooled under Ferguson and Moyes, great leadership on the pitch and don't forget is a class full back so understands the defensive requirements of the premier league. Finally he won stuff at Utd with perhaps Stubbs as his assistant or Kevin Sheedy.

DM was at best an average defender turned lower league manager and now with 10 yrs under his belt. Even with all that experience I still don't see him as a winner, even Dog-leash won something, got to the FA Cup Final and injuries to key players prevented them going for a top 5 position if we are honest.

I am not a Moyes out nor in but after 10 years surely its time for a change.

So will Moyes got to Spurs? I don't think so, they want a manager with a pedigree of winning and playing football to their traditions.

Maybe for to Old Trafford but not for another 3 years at least. So give him that extension and lets see if he can prove he is a winner. I hope he is I really do.

The likes of of Martinez, Clark et al don.t really have the right to come here. I know Moyes came from PNE, but I feel he was the exception to the rule. I know he has detractors here (with good reason with regards to late subs, too defensive etc), but I really don't want to lose him.

If he did want to go, go big; don't go to fucking spurs.

Once a manager signs a contract with one of the so called bigger clubs they are made whether they win something or not. I would have thought on a personal level it is much easier managing Liverpool with a 3 year contract in your back pocket, than it is facing the daily pressures of keeping Everton afloat.

I think you have summed up how a very large part of our fanbase feel.

If moyes leaves he will be replaced by Neville. That's my feeling anyway.

Are you saying that if Moyes is offered the Spurs job and turns it down, we should sack him?

lol

I hope he stays and gets some reasonable budget to work with from these rich, cheap bastards we have for owners.

Interesting angle on all this, if Moyes goes. What about the enormous pressure his replacement will be under to get like, yearly Table results with the budget Moyes had to work with?

Guess whoever it is, and us, will find out just what an "easy comfy job" managing EFC has been all along.

"Redknapp and his agent, Paul Stretford, spent Wednesday in negotiations with Levy, and it became clear that he was close to ending his tenure at White Hart Lane."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/14/harry-redknapp-champions-league-qualification

I don't like Moyes but I will admit he has done well to keep as high in the league as he does on a regular basis but how can you say he is the only man that could have kept us safe? When was the last time we was relegated?

Re Spurs, I just cannot see Levy coming in for Moyes as his style imo is completely against what spurs are about. Still from my side he is more than welcome to make an offer that Moyesy cannot refuse. (A couple of spurs fans I know are dreading the thought of Moyes joining them....I can only pray).

Re who could replace him, I'll cross that bridge if he actually leaves!

"Or if Martinez takes over and struggles, will the appologists become the MOB ? "

And will the new MOB (Martinez out brigade) be the appologists and then want to form the MBB (Moyes back brigade) and if so does that mean that none of us will have a clue as to who is who?

Toffeeweb would be unbearable if that were to happen.

Robbie Savage is just a wind-up merchant. He loves stirring up emotions, good or bad because he knows that controversy is more interesting than the normal course of things. He always makes people think, so job done for him really!!

Harry wasn't sacked for finishing only fourth, he's even said so himself, I would say it was more to do with his high profile and very distracting court case along with his "it's never my fault" attitude that have pushed the Spurs board to look elsewhere, only board members are allowed to have dogs with bank accounts, managers doing the same are getting a bit above there station in their eyes.

Moyes might not be the biggest advocate of nice football, but its not as if Spurs would play hoofball if Moyes took over. If you look at their midfield with the likes of Bale, Van der Vaart and Modric, that team are going to play nice football whoever is in charge. They have one of the best attacks in the league.

Spurs' main weakness is to shut up shop and defend. They do have some good players, but do not defend the best as a unit. I can see Moyes sorting that out very quickly, so they could arguably be even better than that with Redknapp.

Martinez is the obvious replacement, and hes the best of the bunch I think, just needs a lot of time to implement his style. At least we will see some good football and Kenwright, although he has huge flaws, seems to give the managers some backing.

By the way, Moyes' first signing would be Jagielka. Can just see that happening

Theres loads of reasons, geography, money, disagreement on objectives, contract length, disliking the chairman, not being allowed to take your own staff. That's off the top off my head.

Time for the match,Balatelli to see red and Jelavic to earn a draw for Croatia late on.

Scott #970, how is it bollocks? Did I miss us being bought out by a billionaire? Are Spurs players shit compared to ours? Are Spurs skint like us?

But with all this talk of Moyes leaving (I hope not) and who'll replace him? Whoever it is, God help him because he'll get none from this bunch of owners.

Maybe our set of skinflints might finally feel some legitimate, genuine pressure to let a little money go to Moyes this transfer window. Probably not, given the form over the years. But they can. They DO have the money.

On the other hand, maybe they've figured a way around the expression, "You can't take it with you". Given their tight-fistedness, perhaps they have.

FFS, the guy can't win!

Many of us get better job opportunities from time to time - if we don't take them, does it show a lack of ambition? Of course not. It just means we might put family first and not want to up-root 300 miles south to london. I've turned down several better jobs over the years (not the spurs one...), I like the area I'm in now and do not want to live and work in london. Thats a life-choice I make, not a lack of anything. I turned another "better" job down because I thought my potential new boss was a right plum. You spend most of your waking life at work. May as well make it enjoyable, eh?

The fact that Moyes *might* not get his head turned by perceivably "better" offers, and remains loyal and committed to doing a job with everton, is a very positive thing. How you can turn it into a negative is quite frankly baffling...

My bog worry is that should Moyes go there, he's naturally going to look to the likes of Baines, Pienaar and Jelavic. So, we'd end up losing more than a manager I fancy. Only Everton's bank and accountant will be relishing this in the long term I fear...

Part and parcel of the job? Really? Because this whole thread has only come about because Harry Redknapp has departed spurs.

Who, ironically, has spent the last 30 years of his managerial career exclusively in the south close to his home.

So...its only that way if you choose it to be.

At least Kenwright confines his media drivel to his own club and that's embarrassing enough. I don't look forward to hearing the chairman of Wigan Athletic telling all and sundry that Roberto Martinez is too big for EFC, which is why I hope the situation never arises.

Perhaps he just might think he has a better job with a better club with a better lifestyle for his family.

Whether those things comprise a 'step up' is questionable. For a professional manager who wants to win trophies and play in the champions league I believe they do.

Really? This is one of the more bizarre comments in this thread. Firstly at an individual level the most Moyes has spent on a player is Fellaini, - he is clearly our best player so this hardly represents 'less'.

Second and more obviously - when in any real terms has he had anything close to 'more' with any substantial or consistently meaningful sum to spend? Never. Ever.

Just another Moyes bashing comment without foundation.

Whatever anyones view on style of play his dealings in the market overall are impressive and probably the main reason he has so many 'outside' admirers. The latest example being this Januarys loans/purchases.

Your statement seems particularly odd as I think the majority of people would agree that our 3 most expensive current players (Fellaini, Baines and Jelavic) are also our best. That kind of makes your point look a little bit stupid I think.

Yes he's made mistakes in the transfer market, Bily was awful and Beattie not much better but his other big signings - Johnson, Yak, thats about in 10 years - were at worst decent.

Peter Green, scary post you made there.

Our owners, we're close to the Top! You have the funding. Let some loose for Moyes.

Third highest goalscorer in the EPL behind Van Persie and Rooney.

What could we have done with those 17 goals?

If he isn't offered the job, it will show that 'bigger' clubs don't really rate him. If he is offered the job and knocks it back, it won't show loyalty to Everton, but that he thinks it is too big of an ask for him. Really, what person wouldn't want a promotion from state school to public school? The other option is if he's offered the job, and takes it, he will show exactly what he is capable of doing with some money.

A real beard-scratcher is this.

Stop worrying Moyes will NOT leave Everton....

A talentless twat who touched VERY LUCKY to make a career in the game and now thinks he (and his opinions) is more important than he actually is. If you watch him as a pundit it is obvious that he just talks shite to be controversial...

Who cares what that knobhead he thinks....

As I'm sure you can all guess....I HATE Robbie Savage

His whole persona (what little there was of it) has become more and more morose the last few seasons. He is having sulks now whereas he wouldn't show this emotion before.

Offer him a higher paid job, guaranteed transfer money and a larger, better squad.....what person wouldn't take it?

Bring in who you like, we're fucked under current ownership. And whoever you bring in, let's see if he can keep us in our current league position holding pattern on the budget afforded Moyes.

No such thing as indifferent owners and championship teams. Doesn't happen. So have in who you like, "the same old shite for another 10 years or so" will happen.

Assuming, of course, the new manager can do what Moyes did on the same budget.