Three players away...

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As with most clubs in the top half of the table, Everton followers are prone to believe "we are just three players away from being a really good side".

Now I don`t really subscribe to that view, believing that to be true contenders for a Top Four place, we need double that number if all bases are to be covered. But, if it were only three, what areas of the pitch should be the priority?

At the Swansea game, I heard calls for a new goalie, central defender, wide right and central midfield as well as support/replacement for Jelavic up front.

Given that Kenwright will never be in a position to provide his manager with an open chequebook, prioritization is of the utmost importance here...

So what would your THREE be???

Phil Walling, Ainsdale     Posted 17/01/2013 at 08:32:33

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Sam Hoare
355 Posted 17/01/2013 at 14:42:54
Messi, Ronaldo and Kompany?

Or vaguely more realistic, Butland, Capoue, Gameiro?

Tony J Williams
357 Posted 17/01/2013 at 14:48:26
Kompany, Yaya Toure and ........ controversially Suarez.
Joe Sage
359 Posted 17/01/2013 at 14:52:30
Butland, M'Vila or Capoue, Vossen or Gameiro.

Gutted we never got Holtby though.

Colin Potter
360 Posted 17/01/2013 at 14:49:05
I would definitely go for Rene Adler goalkeeper wise, to replace Howard, but keep Howard as well.

We need a midfielder and another striker.

Jon Ferguson
361 Posted 17/01/2013 at 14:56:23
Van Persie, Messi and Yaya Toure.

Can I be cheeky and ask for Kompany as well?

Jon Ferguson
362 Posted 17/01/2013 at 14:58:31
Van Persi
Pienaar Messi Mirallas
Toure Gibson
Baines Komapany Jags Coleman
Howard

I'd settle for that in the transfer window.

Chris Leyland
363 Posted 17/01/2013 at 14:59:06
Neville Southall, Trevor Steven and Graeme Sharp
Jon Ferguson
364 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:00:57

Talksport are saying 'Everton have lodged an £8.5m bid for Toulouse midfielder Etienne Capoue, according to sources in France'.

I can't see how it can be true!

Martyn Frankson
365 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:10:18
Beardsley, Sheedy and Keown.
Tony J Williams
366 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:11:50
Fellaini going to Chelski Jon?
Patrick Murphy
367 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:27:39
Tony J — Seriously Rat-Face? Apparently Brenda has stated that it is totally unacceptable that Rat Face dived to win a penalty against Stoke in October, Rat-Face admits that he did so in an interview with Fox TV, I wonder if he also admitted that he attempted to injure Distin and Mirallas?
Patrick Murphy
368 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:30:20
How about Mike Walsh, Mick Ferguson (once of Coventry) and Glen Keeley?
Tony J Williams
369 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:31:56
Patrick, as much as I hate the rat face, diving, cheating scumbag proven racist.....he's a cracking player.
Andrew Ellams
370 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:32:07
I reckon they are way more pissed off with him for admitting diving rather than actually diving.

Anyway, Butland, Sissoko and Hangeland if he does't sign a new contract at Fulham. That should strengthen us a bit more defensively

Patrick Murphy
372 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:33:33
Tony I agree entirely about his ability, but I wouldn't want him anywhere near our first team, although I get the sense that he's off to pastures new, I noticed in a report about Everton this week that his challenge on Mirallas was mentioned in a negative fashion towards rat-face, pity the local rag couldn't have done that at the time.
Clarence Yurcan
374 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:45:20
Forget about spending Chelski/City money, I truly Believe if Everton even had Spurs money to spend, we would win the title.
Paul Andrews
375 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:47:24
Why are we waiting until all the half-decent players have gone? We will be left with the dregs to try and get a deal.

I understand other teams bringing players in frees up players. Surely not another window where we will be told, "We tried for the deal but due to the players demands we ran out of time"???

You can fool all the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't...

James Morgan
376 Posted 17/01/2013 at 15:42:30
Semi realistic, Butland, Holden and another Mirallas-esque player who can play across the front and wings, maybe Junior Hoilett can revive his talent with us?

I agree that we need about 6 players though.

Chris Leyland
377 Posted 17/01/2013 at 16:00:34
Paul - it's because we haven't got any money to spend and therefore the half-decent players aren't in our price range at present. I suspect we will need to off-load Heitinga before we see any incoming players.
Thomas Lennon
378 Posted 17/01/2013 at 16:03:12
To challenge for the top our second string needs to be as good as our first 11 - so a few more than 3 needed and close to a doubling of our wage bill!
Andrew Ellams
382 Posted 17/01/2013 at 16:11:32
Not necessarily Thomas. The subs benches in the Premier League don't seem to be what they were a few years ago when Man Utd got to the Champions League Final with Scholes and Keane suspended and Sheringham and Solskjaer on the bench. Now only Man City can show that sort of quality in that much depth I believe.

Whilst I apprecaite the other clubs around us have stronger benches than we do most weeks, we are still within touching distance and if Miralles and Gibson can get back and stay fit who knows. Arsenal have the Champions League coming up again in a few weeks and Chelsea and Spurs seem to be as unpredictable as we are at times. If we could seal just one or two loan deals to push through this season then maybe next year could be a great year. And add the increased TV money to Champions League money and we may just be able to make a sizeable move forwards.

On the other hand....

Thomas Lennon
390 Posted 17/01/2013 at 16:31:29
Squad quality and depth is all important – we do need to add to the first 11 to automatically strength the second 11!

My fears for next year if we were to make the Champions League is that we are not in a position to capitalise financially, we might make an extra £10 - 15 million and in the course of that drop down the Premier League (@£1million a place next year). The extra money does not pay us enough to give the squad enough depth to do it all.

Steavey Buckley
391 Posted 17/01/2013 at 16:59:28
3 players away?

Does that mean that Mirallas, Gibson and Hibbert will soon be returning?

Dean Adams
394 Posted 17/01/2013 at 17:21:11
I just love the irony of the thread about "Winning football spikes GP crowds" being closed to comments. Michael!!!!
Dan Brierley
398 Posted 17/01/2013 at 17:38:37
Dean, I noticed that also. But we can't have a thread open that shows we have improved things financially now, can we? Thats not something we want to see debated. But you say you have a financial analysis that paints a bad picture of the management? Lets debate until the cows come home!!
Dean Adams
399 Posted 17/01/2013 at 17:46:00
Yes Dan, but keep it quiet or you might get labelled a Moysaphile or some other variation which accuses you of not seeing the big picture. You know the one that says that Moyes is under achieving with this squad!! I just love the irony of that as well. Oh such joyous irony to be seen on here this week.
Kunal Desai
400 Posted 17/01/2013 at 17:46:41
We've always been a 'nearly' team for a number of years now, we're always a few pieces away from completing the puzzle but this is Everton and the puzzle never gets completed.
Mike Oates
404 Posted 17/01/2013 at 18:00:42
I believe we are at least a top centre half , a top notch creative/quick centre midfielder and another top level scorer short, if we are to compete in the future. Finishing 4th will be a short-term gain, as soon as we are in the CL,PL, League and FA Cup next year are current meagre squad will be decimated by injuries in trying to play all those matches and we will inevitably fail in all comps.
We need another 5 players from were we are today, all probably in the £5-12m range, so where is Billy going to find about £30-40m without losing FEllaini & Baines and effectively leaving us short again.

To get us through to a possible Top 4 place we desperately need a top centre midfielder and also another proven goalscorer - sell Heitinga for £4-5m, use it on a golascoring gamble and hopefully get the midfielder on loan with a promise to pay the full whack in the summer.

Dave Lawley
411 Posted 17/01/2013 at 18:36:07
Tony J Williams, Unless you wish to purchase the rat face in order to then break his legs so he can never play football again, then break his arms for fun, then I strongly disagree, sir!
Jeff Beaumont
419 Posted 17/01/2013 at 19:11:07
Why not a retrospective yellow card for Sewerage?
Paul Ellam
422 Posted 17/01/2013 at 19:27:18
If it has to be just 3 then -

1. Vossen, Gameiro or another quality striker to help Jelavic
2. Capoue, M'Vila or another quality midfielder
3. A quality centre back

Stu Smith
423 Posted 17/01/2013 at 19:29:02
I don't think we need a new keeper yet. The three players I'd go for that wouldn't break the bank.... Luuk De Jong, Sinclair, & Augusto.
Ian Bennett
424 Posted 17/01/2013 at 19:46:58
Chiellini, Falcao, Rooney.
Joe McMahon
425 Posted 17/01/2013 at 19:55:05
Alan Biley, John Oster and Steven Naismith
Ian Bennett
427 Posted 17/01/2013 at 20:00:07
Claus, Big Brett, Nyarko. We actually paid real money for them, real money.
Alan McGuffog
429 Posted 17/01/2013 at 20:03:54
We missed out on that Vadis bloke by a matter of hours as a loan signing as recently as August. And lo, there was much gnashing of teeth and rending of garments. So how come we don't seem bothered about him now?
Peter Warren
431 Posted 17/01/2013 at 20:19:57
Best players in football.
Lyndon Lloyd
Editorial Team
437 Posted 17/01/2013 at 20:57:37
Dean: I just love the irony of the thread about "Winning football spikes GP crowds" being closed to comments. Michael!!!!

Jeez... conspiracy theories R us! Michael hit the wrong radio button when posting the story. The thread has been open for comments for a while now.

Dean Adams
445 Posted 17/01/2013 at 21:39:28
Lyndon Lloyd - thanks for the update. It was somewhat tounge in cheek.
Lyndon Lloyd
451 Posted 17/01/2013 at 22:11:04
My apologies, Dean. You can sort of get into a siege mentality running this place! :)
Dean Adams
456 Posted 17/01/2013 at 22:18:39
Lyndon Lloyd – no need to apologize. I know what you mean though. It is generally entertaining if not a touch amusing reading some of the more extreme posts. Long may it last though.
Andy Kay
467 Posted 17/01/2013 at 23:01:31
Kendall, Harvey, Ball.
Andy Kay
468 Posted 17/01/2013 at 23:05:10
Duffy , Barkley , McAleny
Si Cooper
473 Posted 17/01/2013 at 23:18:22
Wouldn't waste valuable money on a 'keeper, and in support of that I give you one of the all-time greats views on the matter:- “Tim’s done well at Everton – exceptionally well. If you look at people all the time you can pick faults in their game but I think Tim is as good as anybody in the Premier League.

“I think the criticism of him is very harsh but then goes with the job for goalkeepers.

“Joe Hart’s been going through a bit of a dodgy time of late but I don’t see any clamour to replace him.

“Tim Howard is far from finished. He’s an outstanding goalkeeper and just because Everton haven’t got the results they’d have been hoping to get in recent weeks, people are looking at him."

Southall, who maintained his own high standards at Goodison for many years without ever seriously being challenged for the number one jersey, does not believe that extra competition for places is the answer.

“Tim will be hurting at the moment but think of the number of games he’s kept Everton in it and his own form is nothing to do with competition for places.

“Olympic gold medallists don’t have competition for places when they’re training, it’s your own personal pride and ambition to push yourself as far as you can that spurs you on.

“If they did bring another goalkeeper in then it would obviously be a kick up the arse from the manager – not that Tim needs it.”

Let's face it, it is unlikely that we will get the likes of Butland or Hangeland as they will get better offers from some of our competitors. I think it is unlikely we will get more than two players in this transfer window as well.

Unless there is someone guaranteed to score goals, then I could live with the attackers we already have and hope the team overall could get the results we want (always hoping that Jela finds his scoring boots soon). Powerful and pacey midfielders, wide players, or defenders could all be useful, with midfield being the absolute priority for me to give us some decent cover at least.

Chris James
483 Posted 18/01/2013 at 01:11:40
I actually think we just need one player to make a massive difference at Everton and that's a proven finisher.

Even with injuries to Gibson, Mirallas and Coleman plus Fellaini's suspension, we've been putting out teams that are dominating matches and creating bucket-loads of chances. We just haven't been finishing them.

The difference between us and 8-9 more points is 100% up front. If Jelavic was in the form when he joined us we'd be winning games comfortably, or at least turning draws into wins.

As it stands, our front line striker has 6 goals from 21 league games, which is frankly terrible considering the way we're playing and the chances he's had.

The support behind him is as good as you could ask with goals coming from Fellaini (8 from 17), Pienaar (4), Osman, Naismith and Baines (all 3), and our second tier supersub Anichebe has also weighed in with 4 goals from 6 starts (and 5 sub appearances).

Essentially then, all I really want in the transfer window is someone with a track record of putting the ball away. Doesn't need to be super skillful or hardworking in the class of VP, Rooney, Aguero, Tevez... a Ba / Fletcher / Dzeko character is what we want, someone with instinct who's hungry and ideally in some form to have as an option whilst Jelavic misfires.

Jason Lam
485 Posted 18/01/2013 at 01:49:09
Cheeky bid for Torres. Crooked, has-been now warming the bench that needs to put his life and career back on track. Fits the Moyes type perfectly.
Harold Matthews
492 Posted 18/01/2013 at 02:45:59
Not sure where we can go with this one. The pace, movement and lethal finishing of the high scoring teams is something we can only dream about. Compared to them, we look mechanical and sluggish in the final third.

Where I am with DM goodness knows. I can be for him; I can be against him. Depends on what's going on. He's well aware of the problem and said as much after Swansea game when he confessed to being disappointed with the speed of passing and general all-round movement. Something I'm sure they will now be working on.

As for additional players. Well until we know who's going it's hard to pick any one. What I did find interesting was the New Year's Eve Leighton Baines Interview where he urged the need to strengthen the squad. "It's when we have three or four missing that it affects us. We can cover one or two because we have little strength in depth and we feel it. I'm sure the manager would have liked more options from the bench, or the likes of lads like Kevin Mirallas and Seamus Coleman available to him."

Not a mention here of any of the younger boys on the bench. In fact he doesn't seem to rate the bench at all. Like DM, he is probably hoping for experienced loans or signings age 27-32.

Paul Ellam
501 Posted 18/01/2013 at 07:30:25
Jason #485
We could put in a cheeky bid but our cheeky bid would be around £2-3 million and they would want around £30 million!!!
Phil Walling
505 Posted 18/01/2013 at 08:17:09
Andy: The three kids you mention – Duffy, Barkley and McAleny – just don`t seem to figure in Moyes's plans. In 10 years, only Rodwell and Anichebe have come through the much vaunted – and costly – youth system. Even with the Club being skint, average players like Naismith (who is certainly no better than McAleny) seem to have more appeal than our home-grown products.
Jim Knightley
506 Posted 18/01/2013 at 08:18:23
I don't know which striker we could bring in, given our current funding issues. Realistically... we could get Cisse on a free from QPR for six months maybe, which would improve our bench. But really, I expect that's the quality we are looking at.

Without spending £5plus million, I don't really see the possibility of getting in a striker who can displace, or effectively challenge, Jelavic. Even the good Championship guys go for lots of money these days... We could try a cheeky loan bid for Darren Bent, or Gabby but, irrespective of Lambert's favorites, he wouldn't let either go.

Shame we haven't returned for Donovan imo... We could really do with his pace and ability with Mirallas out.

Mark Murphy
509 Posted 18/01/2013 at 09:03:09
Suarez??? I'd walk if we signed that horrible twat! The kopites may like to defend the indefensible but I wouldn't be able to.

I'd like:
Buckland
Dawson
and controversially perhaps but I still think he's going to be a cracking striker,
Andy Carroll.

Derek Thomas
511 Posted 18/01/2013 at 09:13:43
West, Labone, Husband.
Ray Roche
512 Posted 18/01/2013 at 09:18:48
Mark, it would be interesting, though, to see if they would still be regarding him as being victimised if he "won" us a penalty at Anfield with a dive that would do justice to Tom Daley!
Richard Reeves
521 Posted 18/01/2013 at 10:39:14
Capoue and Butland. Most other positions can be filled by our promising younger players who need games in the first team.
Harold Matthews
537 Posted 18/01/2013 at 09:25:55
"Oh Carroll" Yes, Mark, On loan. That would be a laugh and being a lefty he would love Baines... But it ain't going to happen. Wages too high and the fans may not want him.

Yes, Andy. The youth system seems to exist for the sole purpose of finding the likes of Rooney and Rodwell and a big profit. Barkley was the next in line but suffered a multiple legbreak and it all went pear-shaped. Right now he's not worth a cent and is being fast-tracked elsewhere rather than keeping him on the bench and bringing him on slowly.

We've certainly got a pretty good squad, injuries or no injuries. No-one wants to face us. The "10-minute boys" on the bench are getting a fairly rough deal but it's the way DM works and he's not about to change a formula which helped cement his reputation within the world of football. OK, it drives most of us crackers but he must think it's the best procedure.

James Stewart
540 Posted 18/01/2013 at 12:00:49
A GK - Howard is not consistent enough and to error prone.

M'Vila. Top quality in CM.

Sneijder.

Liam Reilly
553 Posted 18/01/2013 at 12:52:11
Reckon we need more than 3 - we've got Arsenal, Tottenham, the RS and Chelsea away during a tough run in and I can only remember us beating Spurs out of that lot away during the Moyes era.

4th is a big ask.

Patrick Murphy
555 Posted 18/01/2013 at 12:57:03
Liam, that is correct: we haven't won over the road since 1999, Arsenal and Chelsea was in 1996 but I'm not sure and Man Utd was in the very first Premier League season in 1992. It's a pretty abysmal record for a team that's been up in the top 10 for the last decade.
Nick Entwistle
556 Posted 18/01/2013 at 13:09:23
Adkins has been sacked so Forren to Southampton may be off.
Patrick Murphy
566 Posted 18/01/2013 at 13:45:22
Liam our record away to those teams is even worse than I thought: All time PL games away at those grounds shows

Arsenal W 1 D 3 L 16
Man Utd W 1 D 4 L 15
LFC W 2 D 9 L 10
Spurs W 3 D 5 L 12

In the last five seasons we have won twice at Spurs and drawn once while we have gained 4 draws at Chelsea and 2 draws at LFC with a singled draw at Man Utd and Arsenal with a total of 14 defeats in 25 games. 15 points from a possible 75 hardly fills us with optimism going into those fixtures in the coming months.

Patrick Murphy
569 Posted 18/01/2013 at 13:53:42
And Chelsea W 1 D 9 L 10
Ray Roche
579 Posted 18/01/2013 at 14:48:34
Patrick, Liam, and every time we play these teams that elusive away victory gets closer. All things, all statistical runs such as those mentioned, come to an end sooner or later. Up until recently the oft quoted one was that we hadn't won AT Fulham since Alan Ball's debut. But now?
Patrick Murphy
586 Posted 18/01/2013 at 15:18:18
I hope you're right Ray, maybe we'll break our 21st century duck against those four teams we haven't beaten all in a matter of months, let's hope so anyway. But it is a terrible record for a team that has been punching above its weight for so many seasons.

Ray Roche
592 Posted 18/01/2013 at 15:41:53
Eternally optimistic....unusual in a Blue...
Liam Reilly
608 Posted 18/01/2013 at 16:15:23
Doesn't make good reading Partrick.

Agree Ray
All these cycles will eventually come to an end, but even the most optimistic Evertonian would struggle to believe that we will break more than 2 of those ducks on the run in and with these teams all vying for the elusive Champions League spot, they are essentailly 6 pointers.

Still, I believe we can do it. How naive am I.

Harold Matthews
658 Posted 18/01/2013 at 20:21:54
I think I'll go for a lie down.
Jeremy Benson
032 Posted 20/01/2013 at 14:34:17
IMHO, this season, we are just 1 player away from a top 3 finish.

We've dominated in several matches and only come away with 1 point, or lost when we have easily been the equal and should have come away with a draw. In all cases we created plenty of chances but just couldn't put the ball in the back of the net with lack of quality in the final 3rd.

If we had another quality striker who could have put away some of those misses, we'd easily be sitting in the top 3. We may not be 1st, but I think we'd be sitting in 2nd just about.

Ryan Rosenberg
220 Posted 21/01/2013 at 10:09:46
We need a striker. Fernando Llorente wants to leave Bilbao, has 6 months left on his contract, and is available for a very cheap price.

Someone more realistic, Iago Aspas for Celta Vigo, or Leo, for Rayo Vallecano (same club that Michu came from).

I think goalkeeper is a position we don't need to urgently address, should wait until Summer by the earliest.

Another midfielder is needed. I think Capoue is the best option, and although he is pricey I say we snap him up.

If worse comes to worst and we spend more than we have and end up missing out on the top four, we can sell Fellaini for £30+mil.

Jon Ferguson
977 Posted 23/01/2013 at 13:22:06
Realistically I would go for:

Zarate - on loan from Lazio until the end of the season.

Sissoko - match what newcastle offer from him.

Amorebieta - nominal fee from Bilboa


I would then try and get some cash back from sales from Heitinga and Gueye.

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